Game Thread ONUW 13 - This One's Ruff

Brazil is a mason or tanner, not important at the moment.

I will quote this though, acohrs is trying to bait out the mason claim before he claims so he doesn't have to guess at the mason.
Don't mind me, everyone, just pointing out contradictions for y'all.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
you have more info than me at this point

the role would fit me but i didnt get this card
What did you mean by the above message then?

Interesting

Is it simply because he quacks like a duck or is there more to it like how he keeps insisting his story is correct?
Probably because he’s been caught out as a liar, has been fishing for info, and as of yet has done nothing to make it seem like an elaborate villager play. Any reason why you keep dodging talking about yourself?
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
In this case, the fact that acohrs has nothing to lose by simply saying who the other alleged Mason is.
It is written:
The Robber is on the team of the card he takes, however, he does not do the action of his new role at night.
So I don't think he's able to see who the other mason is.
 

Mazre

Traitor of Humanity
So just to recap:
Brazil claims seer and that he saw rac has robber - this is refuted directly by rac (didn't start as robber), as well as by acohrs (claims robber and whose story is confirmed by Sorian)

Brazil's story is pretty much shot to pieces, the only other possibility that make sense would be if rac was robber who stole wolf and acohrs/sorian were minion/wolf, but Sorian has already implied that his mason buddy is in play so that's the final nail should that piece of info drop

Seems highly probable that Brazil is wolf/tanner/minion, if he was just fishing for info he probably would've recanted by now

Both rac and splinter have soft claimed insomniac (Splinter claims his card was taken (doesn't specify what it was replaced with, rac claims to know based on his card what team he's on); Would lean towards rac between these two, robber claim from acohrs suggests his card wasn't stolen, and I didn't switch him so if he was insomniac claiming his card changed there's currently no way for that to be

I've claimed troublemaker (NO switch of splinter, rac, or acohrs)

Nomad has claimed drunk taking card 2 from the center

No claims:
Natiko, Benghis Khan, and Ty4on
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Probably because he’s been caught out as a liar, has been fishing for info, and as of yet has done nothing to make it seem like an elaborate villager play. Any reason why you keep dodging talking about yourself?
There's more to it than that. He could also be a wolf trying to look too woolfy to be lynched. I wanted to know if it was a simple or more complex judgement.
 

rac

whatever
What did you mean by the above message then?

i wasn't thinking about the order of things and was under the impression i was robbed

i was happy to have the information since i was kinda worried about the troublemaker
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Mazre, surely you haven’t missed the numerous soft claims (or lack of denials) on my part? Regardless just so it’s explicit - I am (or at least started) as the Seer.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Also Mazre - do you really think rac was implying he’s insomniac? I don’t think he could be confused about his role if so since insomniac is the only one that knows for sure who they are at game start.
i wasn't thinking about the order of things and was under the impression i was robbed

i was happy to have the information since i was kinda worried about the troublemaker
Now that you’ve reflected on the role order do any of your posts need to be taken with a grain of salt other than the one I picked out?
 

Mazre

Traitor of Humanity
Also Mazre - do you really think rac was implying he’s insomniac? I don’t think he could be confused about his role if so since insomniac is the only one that knows for sure who they are at game start.

Now that you’ve reflected on the role order do any of your posts need to be taken with a grain of salt other than the one I picked out?

Thought it was a possibility but may have read to much into rac's statements, definitely overlooked your post about having an info role (GET AVATARS PEOPLE).
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
???????????
He’s being snarky because I keep pressing him to commit to something since he’s been avoiding it thus far. Perhaps I did check him though and just want to see if he lies. I won’t be revealing what I did yet, but yes I am the Seer.
 

Hecht

Like dubstep for my bootyhole
Game ends:
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Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
So Mazre and Benghis are both claiming troublemaker? Do I have that right?

Are you both going to keep being coy about what you did?

Do we have a real seer claim that isn't shit?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So Mazre and Benghis are both claiming troublemaker? Do I have that right?

Are you both going to keep being coy about what you did?

Do we have a real seer claim that isn't shit?
I’m Seer and looked at cards in the middle. Not going to go further than that yet.
 

rac

whatever
No claims:
Natiko, Benghis Khan, and Ty4on

by my count
no claims:
myself, splinter, ty4on

two troublemakers

how about we make this interesting splinter, and ty4on
lets play a game and all reveal roles at the same time
yeah?
 

rac

whatever
sorian i guess you can play too since you didnt really get to claim

also benghis whyd you let mazre claim go unchecked for awhile and not even react to them at all?
why were you so interested in my real role yesterday?
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I’m Seer and looked at cards in the middle. Not going to go further than that yet.

All we really care about is if you looked at card 2 or not at this point.

I also have no game to play, I'm claimed rac, good try though.
 
sorian i guess you can play too since you didnt really get to claim

also benghis whyd you let mazre claim go unchecked for awhile and not even react to them at all?
why were you so interested in my real role yesterday?
Because I swapped you and sorian
 

rac

whatever
i mean yeah, but technically it was acohrs that claimed for you

i didnt see your verified post
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Not really because I believe Mazre before Benghis so I doubt I'm actually your card and you're town anyway but go ahead.
 

rac

whatever
nah its ok i dont believe it either

what are the odds that both robber and troublemaker target you?
probably not good
 
nah its ok i dont believe it either

what are the odds that both robber and troublemaker target you?
probably not good
Well I quickly targeted two people close to me on the ‘play table’, didn’t even know I was in this game till the end of the night phase
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
nah its ok i dont believe it either

what are the odds that both robber and troublemaker target you?
probably not good

Very high actually, I even predicted 2 at the start of the game. ^^

But I still believe Mazre more in this particular case.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
To whoever was asking me to get an avatar - I went and turned my computer on just for you. You're welcome.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
This is the appreciation I get? Pffft. Just to let everyone know, I’ll be getting on a plane about four hours before day end and won’t be getting off of it until about ~20 minutes before day end.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I want a rac and Splinter claim now. I want a Natiko reveal on cards 1 and 2 after they both claim.
 

rac

whatever
Not really because I believe Mazre before Benghis so I doubt I'm actually your card and you're town anyway but go ahead.

what does im town anyway mean, i was assuming you think im town
but now this

I want a rac and Splinter claim now. I want a Natiko reveal on cards 1 and 2 after they both claim.

if you think im town how would revealing my role before natiko help?
wouldn't that allow him to just change what he would claim the cards to be?
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
We have no way to verify what Natiko says regardless. Either he's telling the truth or the seer card was in the middle and we won't know until game end. We could let him go first and have you or Splinter counter claim him but it's a matter of luck either way. I have no outstanding issues with you but Splinter is a crap shoot, we need the claims out now though. We're pushing on time especially with time zones.
 

acohrs

GIF Voyeur
So just to recap:
Brazil claims seer and that he saw rac has robber - this is refuted directly by rac (didn't start as robber), as well as by acohrs (claims robber and whose story is confirmed by Sorian)

Brazil's story is pretty much shot to pieces, the only other possibility that make sense would be if rac was robber who stole wolf and acohrs/sorian were minion/wolf, but Sorian has already implied that his mason buddy is in play so that's the final nail should that piece of info drop

Seems highly probable that Brazil is wolf/tanner/minion, if he was just fishing for info he probably would've recanted by now

Both rac and splinter have soft claimed insomniac (Splinter claims his card was taken (doesn't specify what it was replaced with, rac claims to know based on his card what team he's on); Would lean towards rac between these two, robber claim from acohrs suggests his card wasn't stolen, and I didn't switch him so if he was insomniac claiming his card changed there's currently no way for that to be

I've claimed troublemaker (NO switch of splinter, rac, or acohrs)

Nomad has claimed drunk taking card 2 from the center

No claims:
Natiko, Benghis Khan, and Ty4on
whose cards did you switch maz?
 

Mazre

Traitor of Humanity
That's a boring switch :/

Why?

Boring switch? What does that even mean? Not like I have any info to go on when I'm making a switch at the start of the game. I randomed two people who weren't me and went with it.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Boring switch? What does that even mean? Not like I have any info to go on when I'm making a switch at the start of the game. I randomed two people who weren't me and went with it.
Randomized in your head or actually randomized from random.org?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I give up on Nomad. I actually peeked at 1 and 3. I saw Insomniac and Villager. In all likelihood our wolves, minion, and tanner are dispersed as one of Mazre/benghis, brazil/me (depending on which troublemaker is real), splinter, and nomad. Was hoping to pry more info out first but seeing as this game is moving sloooowly I want people to have time to see my info.
 

rac

whatever
uh huh so let's look at the claims then

mason - acohrs (robbed sorian), sorian, ty4on (?)
seer - brazil (saw me as robber), natiko (saw cards 1 (insomniac) and 3 (villager))
robber - acohrs (started as), sorian (was robbed), splinter (woke up like this)
troublemaker - mazre (swapped brazil (seer) - natiko (also seer)), benghis khan(swapped sorian (robber) - rac (hunter))
drunk - nomad sparkster (picked card 2)
insomniac - splinter (now robber)
hunter - rac

do i have everything right?
 

rac

whatever
hey splinter
how would acohrs know sorian is mason?
how did you get the robber card when no one claimed to even touch your card?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don’t know that I think Nomad is lying so much as the only roles that seems plausible for being card 2 are all non-town ones.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It’s almost like I tried very hard to pin Nomad to a story before revealing to avoid this sort of thing. Oh well, you believe me or you don’t.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah about the time Sorian told me to stop bothering you everyone should have realized.
 

rac

whatever
It’s almost like I tried very hard to pin Nomad to a story before revealing to avoid this sort of thing. Oh well, you believe me or you don’t.

well you bread-crumbed before brazil claimed, so you have that going for you
 

rac

whatever
i dont know how active i will be at day end so if more people don't come in here and talk im probably just gonna vote nomad
 

rac

whatever
There’s also that whole part where he claims to have seen you with a role you deny being.

in my head it worked something like:
brazil the minion claims seer with an obvious lie, i dont keep my mouth shut and instantly refute it
no counter claims come forward for some time

it is now safe for werewolves to claim seer
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
But by claiming seer as a wolf I have to also throw out cards I saw. Why wouldn’t I claim to have seen some of the negative ones knowing no one will counter me? Why do you think I made a point to verify if Splinter was claiming Insomniac?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
by the time you claimed was there many people left to even counter you?
Not sure, but if I was looking for a clean claim I easily could’ve left Insomniac out of it were I lying
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So before I get on the plane here are my thoughts. I’m fairly confident the baddie breakdown is as I said before:

Mazre/benghis
brazil/me (depending on troublemaker)
splinter
nomad

Two of the four roles are ones we want to lynch so we’re at a 50/50. The seer and troublemaker double claims make it a further toss up if you lynch there. Splinter is lying as well and probably expected a counter claim since he breadcrumbed early too. I think lynching Nomad is the smartest play at this time, but I’ll pop in as I can and re-evaluate at day end.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m just hoping Mazre is the liar since it’s oddly convenient he would just so happen to target both people that would go on to claim seer.
 
I’m just hoping Mazre is the liar since it’s oddly convenient he would just so happen to target both people that would go on to claim seer.
Well he is lying. I know you can’t be sure what I’m saying is true but it is. Outside of other actions muddying things and taking claims at face value rac would be a mason (or whatever sorian became ) and sorian would be hunter I believe. OMUW is a interesting game
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Maybe I should start playing

I'm not sure who I am voting, someone who looks like the could be wolf maybe
 
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