Spectator Thread Observing a Story as it Unfolds

[Aeleus]

Did anyone catch my breadcrumb?

 

[lokiduck]

I think not buddy XD

 

[Aeleus]

Did anyone catch my breadcrumb?

Also despite it being three days of hell, I enjoyed the game vere/loki

 

[Stuart444]

welcome to spec Aeleus!

 

[Fanto]

btw Fanto softed a role that "wouldn't save him from being lunched", it must be really weak instead of negative utility because at the time both reki and me claimed negative utilities and having 3 of them is a bit too much

You'll see the flip soon, but yeah, it wouldn't have.

Spoiler

I was a Role Fisher, so I had a 33% chance to Role Cop my target. Never got any info.

I also gave out a fish to a random person at night, but I don't know who it went to. When Nin was talking about getting a rainbow trout or whatever, that was from me.

 

[lokiduck]

You'll see the flip soon, but yeah, it wouldn't have.

Spoiler

I was a Role Fisher, so I had a 33% chance to Role Cop my target. Never got any info.

I also gave out a fish to a random person at night, but I don't know who it went to. When Nin was talking about getting a rainbow trout or whatever, that was from me.

Spoiler

My biggest regret was listening to the reviewers on that one and making your shot 33% Vere and I both agreed in retrospect it should have been 50% :<

Do you want to know what the results would have been?

Also do you want a will? :<

 

[Aeleus]

Chuggs, Kalor, Hagi and Stan are my final guesses for scum.

 

[Verelios]

Also despite it being three days of hell, I enjoyed the game vere/loki

You were A1 this game, and it's regrettable you died because I did enjoy listening to our good advisor.

 

[lokiduck]

Chuggs, Kalor, Hagi and Stan are my final guesses for scum.

oooh right.

Spoiler

Do you want to know who you visited?

 

[Fanto]

Spoiler

My biggest regret was listening to the reviewers on that one and making your shot 33% Vere and I both agreed in retrospect it should have been 50% :<

Do you want to know what the results would have been?

Also do you want a will? :<

Spoiler

Yes! Give me my results! Lol

Yes, this is my will:

 

[Aeleus]

oooh right.

Spoiler

Do you want to know who you visited?

sure, you tease

 

[Aeleus]

Spoiler

Yes! Give me my results! Lol

Yes, this is my will:

Does that make me max lol

 

[Fanto]

Does that make me max lol

Sure lol

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Yes! Give me my results! Lol

Yes, this is my will:

Spoiler

Night 1: You didn't catch any fish but you got a piece of paper that says Jack of all trades??? What does that mean?
Night 2: You again didn't catch any fish :< but you got a piece of paper that says doctor? Why would a doctor live underwater?
Night 3: You just can't catch a break! You got another piece of paper that says Jack of All Trades. :<

 

[Fanto]

Spoiler

Night 1: You didn't catch any fish but you got a piece of paper that says Jack of all trades??? What does that mean?
Night 2: You again didn't catch any fish :< but you got a piece of paper that says doctor? Why would a doctor live underwater?
Night 3: You just can't catch a break! You got another piece of paper that says Jack of All Trades. :<

Spoiler

Chugg is Scum lol

 

[lokiduck]

sure, you tease

Spoiler

Night 1: MrHedin
Night 2: Stan
Night 3: SalvaPot

 

[Aeleus]

Spoiler

Night 1: MrHedin
Night 2: Stan
Night 3: SalvaPot

Spoiler

Was I a counter to a scum tracker as nin was a counter to our cop? That was my theory on kalor

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Chugg is Scum lol

Spoiler

LOL things would have been so different if Random.org hadn't failed you :<

 

[Fanto]

Spoiler

Night 1: You didn't catch any fish but you got a piece of paper that says Jack of all trades??? What does that mean?
Night 2: You again didn't catch any fish :< but you got a piece of paper that says doctor? Why would a doctor live underwater?
Night 3: You just can't catch a break! You got another piece of paper that says Jack of All Trades. :<

To give everyone else context here if they want to click this spoiler:

Spoiler

Chugg is a JoaT
LP is a Doctor

Chugg is Scum lol

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Was I a counter to a scum tracker as nin was a counter to our cop? That was my theory on kalor

Spoiler

You were noise to throw off Kalor's motion detects. You and Fanto's passive served to create more noise with night actions since MD's only know if an action happened to their target or were made by them but not what it was.

You also basically served a slight bit as a flavor cop. If you line up the rules we gave you for each night with the person you visited and their flavor, you will see that their character would in fact be a follower or violator of the rule we sent. I can explain more on that once the flavors have all been revealed. XD

How we did that was we'd pick a rule then Random.org your visit person then hotly debating in mod chat if they would follow it or not. XD

 

[Aeleus]

On a completely different note is the only difference between gestalt and replicant the main character's appearance? Because I'm interested in the remake if it is.

 

[lokiduck]

On a completely different note is the only difference between gestalt and replicant the main character's appearance? Because I'm interested in the remake if it is.

That's basically it yeah. I prefer Gestalt because having the MC be a single dad is way more unique then bishi protag number 6 (in Replicant he's Yonah's brother) like so many other RPGs.

 

[Aeleus]

That's basically it yeah. I prefer Gestalt because having the MC be a single dad is way more unique then bishi protag number 6 (in Replicant he's Yonah's brother) like so many other RPGs.

Yeah I'd prefer gestalt if I have a choice

 

[turmoil7]

Did anyone catch my breadcrumb?

I didn't

 

[lokiduck]

Yeah I'd prefer gestalt if I have a choice

Plus the Voice acting is top notch. Jamieson Price plays a lot of video game dads, but he's fantastic here (and is one of my fave VA's in general).

 

[turmoil7]

also, welcome to spec fanto and aeleus!

are we going open spoiler soon? Ive read them

 

[lokiduck]

also, welcome to spec fanto and aeleus!

are we going open spoiler soon? Ive read them

I'll allow it if Vere is okay with it and if everyone else is.

But first I want everyone to post their final scum lists.

 

[Fanto]

Also, now that I'm dead and was reminded of this by Loki, I'm going to share this awesome joke I made in my Role PM on D1 when Jman said I should use a LiS reference to role claim with:

 

[lokiduck]

D: ERA KEEPS CRASHING D:

;W; I JUST WANT TO FINISH THE DAY OPENING POST.

 

[Fanto]

I'll allow it if Vere is okay with it and if everyone else is.

But first I want everyone to post their final scum lists.

I'm cool with spoilers.

My final Scum list is:
Chugg
Salva
Stan
Stove

 

[lokiduck]

Speaking of death posts. I hope everyone has been listening to the music C: And that the dead like the pieces we picked for their characters.

 

[lokiduck]

I think when the game ends I'll just have a list of links to all the pieces for those alive at the end LOL so as to not fill up the end post with noise.

 

[turmoil7]

I've read spoilers so I know that

Spoiler: 2 scum

stove and chuggs are scum

for the other 2: reki and jman

 

[Stuart444]

Welcome Fanto.

 

[lokiduck]

Alright then. Again is everyone okay with open spoilers? I'm asking one last time.

I'm going to grab lunch real fast. When I get back if no one has an objection I will open it to full spoilers and even tell you all the juicy deets like answering night action questions.

 

[Stuart444]

Spoiler: scummie

Was Chuggs the one who pushed for my death? <_>

 

[turmoil7]

I think when the game ends I'll just have a list of links to all the pieces for those alive at the end LOL so as to not fill up the end post with noise.

listing all of them in one of the opening post too for ease of access/archival could be good too

 

[lokiduck]

listing all of them in one of the opening post too for ease of access/archival could be good too

Good point.

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler: scummie

Was Chuggs the one who pushed for my death? <_>

Yes >> He actually killed you too.

 

[lokiduck]

Open spoilers in 3 minutes. Last chance every body.

 

[lokiduck]

Right. So the scum team is:

Chuggs as a JOAT with 1 ninja, 1 Strongman, and 1 switch.
MrHedin is a Rolecop
Salvapot is a Roleblock
and Hagi is a Hunter (that specifically hunts Nier. If he checks a player and they are Nier, they die).

 

[Stuart444]

Yes >> He actually killed you too.

I knew it. Me and Chuggs have been in the same games enough. I'd have caught him eventually if he didn't off me.

 

[Stuart444]

and Hagi is a Hunter (that specifically hunts Nier. If he checks a player and they are Nier, they die).

Is that how Sorian died?

 

[lokiduck]

I knew it. Me and Chuggs have been in the same games enough. I'd have caught him eventually if he didn't off me.

This is why he killed you. XD He wasted his ninja shot too.

 

[lokiduck]

Is that how Sorian died?

Yep. Sorian would have lived if not for one thing... Salva got the great idea to Roleblock him, which canceled out the Self-Protect opening him to the Nier check.

They lucked out on accident basically.

 

[lokiduck]

This is why he killed you. XD He wasted his ninja shot too.

Actually Chuggs wasted his Strongman too. He used it on Fran. The switch has been the only ability that has been actively helpful >> even if both shots did successfully kill their target.

 

[Fanto]

Chuggs

My D1 instincts.

:flex:

MrHedin is a Rolecop

What a gambit.

Salvpot

I knew it.

 

[Stuart444]

Yep. Sorian would have lived if not for one thing... Salva got the great idea to Roleblock him, which canceled out the Self-Protect opening him to the Nier check.

They lucked out on accident basically.

omg hahaha.

So a combination of luck and Sorian claiming right away on D1 killed him hahaha

 

[lokiduck]

omg hahaha.

So a combination of luck and Sorian claiming right away on D1 killed him hahaha

Yep. We gave him the self protect to counter the Nier check as long as no one else targeted him... but we didn't count on Sorian claiming day 1.

In retrospect might have been better to make it a Night 1 protect.

 

[lokiduck]

What a gambit.

It is. He decided to try it because he found out nin was a miller (He checked you night 1 BTW. You were RB'd night 2)

Funny enough Chuggs was going to claim the cop check saying it's one of his JOAT abilities, but Hedin said a tracker might call him on his bullshit.

 

[lokiduck]

I give the scum team a lot of credit, but some of it was just pure luck such as with what happened this night phase >>

Town is not going to be happy at all when day starts.

 

[Fanto]

You were RB'd night 2

I wondered about this, because you said I "caught no fish" that night, but on the previous night you said I caught a rainbow trout or whatever. I had figured it was just flavor stuff though and that I would have gotten a "no result" if I was roleblocked.

 

[Verelios]

I've read spoilers so I know that

Spoiler: 2 scum

stove and chuggs are scum

for the other 2: reki and jman

Stove is the wildcard in this scenario as our last living neutral, so you're not wrong to think they're anti-town.

 

[lokiduck]

I wondered about this, because you said I "caught no fish" that night, but on the previous night you said I caught a rainbow trout or whatever. I had figured it was just flavor stuff though and that I would have gotten a "no result" if I was roleblocked.

We went all out with your role so even the results were weird. XD

Basically
You get a result: You didn't catch any fish :< But you got a piece of paper saying x
You don't get a result: You caught a fish!!!! It's a (Fish we give to another player via your fish vending)
You are roleblocked: You didn't catch anything :< (no fish vending too)

 

[Verelios]

I wondered about this, because you said I "caught no fish" that night, but on the previous night you said I caught a rainbow trout or whatever. I had figured it was just flavor stuff though and that I would have gotten a "no result" if I was roleblocked.

You might have realized it sooner if one of your role fishing attempts succeeded. You always get a fish if you don't get a role.

 

[Fanto]

Ah, that makes sense yeah.

 

[Geno]

Geno! I have to tell you something mostly because no one else is here to react. D:

Spoiler

Believe it or not... A certain Neutral who wants Jman dead is the key to saving him >>. You may be wondering how that works, but once you see who died and think about it based on what powers you know, you'll figure it out. >>

Can't wait to see

 

[lokiduck]

Speaking of Stove, I told Geno earlier that he may be the piece that prevents Jman from being lunched today... however... he wants Jman dead >:D

The reason?

Stove is a Hunter who needs to lunch someone from the Kingdom of Facade.

Every night he has two actions, he can scent check a player to see where they are from (basically a location cop LOL) and if they are from Facade he will be told as much.

His second ability is where he marks a player. If he lunches someone from Facade that he marked he wins. Otherwise his only shot of winning is becoming a survivor because he outlived the Facade players.

Anyways last night he checked Hagi and he got results that his target is from Facade. One of the victims for today is Aeleus who is from Facade.

Can you figure out how he could save Jman (not that he will lol)?

 

[Geno]

Spoiler

My biggest regret was listening to the reviewers on that one and making your shot 33% Vere and I both agreed in retrospect it should have been 50% :<

Do you want to know what the results would have been?

Also do you want a will? :<

Spoiler

Hey wasn't I saying 50 and OA said to lower it or I misremember?

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Hey wasn't I saying 50 and OA said to lower it or I misremember?

We should check the review threads to find out :P If you did say that then it's OA's fault. XD

 

[lokiduck]

Day start is up :D Everyone go check out the sweet beats and the carnage >:D

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Speaking of, Scum just saw the result and Chuggs is freaking because he has no idea how Raz died.

 

[Stuart444]

3 deaths in one night, ouch

 

[Fanto]

And that the dead like the pieces we picked for their characters

Everyone go check out the sweet beats

Jamming my death music right now, love it lol.

 

[Aeleus]

Sorry Razmos :(

 

[lokiduck]

Jamming my death music right now, love it lol.

:D City of Commerce is the area music for the Town the Fisherman is from C: Glad you like it.

Sorry Razmos :(

It's not your fault. He died because he picked you. XD Well that and Scum interfered >>

 

[lokiduck]

3 deaths in one night, ouch

Yep, we in Lylo >>

 

[Verelios]

Sorry Razmos :(

It was just a bad series of coincidences.

 

[Fanto]

we in Lylo

 

[Geno]

Fucking rip man, mylo time

 

[lokiduck]

I am legit sad tho. These three roles were my three favorite town roles :<

BTW Stove's is my favorite non town one. XD

 

[lokiduck]

The question is... will town notice that Fanto and Razmos were the town cops.

One is a weakened role cop the other a weak cop since he dies if he visits 2 non-town (he didn't LOL).

If they do they can realize Hedin is full of shit.

 

[lokiduck]

BTW Razmos would have died if he had visted any two of these players:
- nin (Kaine the miller)
- Sparks (Kalil and beepy)
- Stove (Roc)
- Chuggs (Shadowlord)
- MrHedin (Grimoire Noir)
- SalvaPot (Hansel)
- Hagi (Gretel)

Basically the entire mafia team, the two neutrals, and our miller XD Lore wise it's because all are connected with shades (except for Noir) and those are dangerous dreams for a mayor to be in. XD

 

[Verelios]

The question is... will town notice that Fanto and Razmos were the town cops.

One is a weakened role cop the other a weak cop since he dies if he visits 2 non-town (he didn't LOL).

If they do they can realize Hedin is full of shit.

People need to rein in their Jman bloodlust for that to happen because if even one town member votes him then...yeah.

 

[lokiduck]

So, if I read that correctly, it seems Razmos was immune to all atacks but would die if he targeted more than one scum player.

And we have two pseudo cop roles here:

A's role sounds like they could know what a role did without knowing who.

Fanto had a 1/3 chance of getting a check, but also a nice way of proving towniness.

But more importantly, no one on the kings vote was killed, either jman got cold feet and choose the kill himself, or someone messed with his kill. Either way... second vig.

Oh, right, and Mr. would make the third cop role.

Salva why are you pointing out all the cop like powers in town. Doesn't that make it look bad for Hedin?

 

[lokiduck]

People need to rein in their Jman bloodlust for that to happen because if even one town member votes him then...yeah.

Yep XD

In general they are fucked unless they get a member of the scum team. Stove won't do either. XD

 

[Verelios]

Kalor, my man. Don't rattle the neutral snake.

 

[lokiduck]

LOL Kalor's list only has one scum on it. And a neutral but whatever.

 

[lokiduck]

LP noooooooo don't think Kalor or Reki were scum.... he would have fucking died earlier than now if that was the case D:

oooh wait I guess it's possible Razmos was talking with scum (he wasn't) and died because of Kalor or Reki (he didn't).

Either way LP wants to lunch Kalor D: The good news is he wants to focus on Jman or Hagi. >>

 

[lokiduck]

Also best part is because of Stove, no one realizes they are in LyLo XD

Edit: I mean scum did at least, they'd realize they could vote out a townie and win as long as two people vote on that train as well.

Then at that point it's all on LP to block the kill >>

The problem there is he protected Hedin last night.

 

[turmoil7]

reminder that if we had followed sparks on day 1 chuggs would be dead

 

[Razmos]

Big OOF tonight!
Just caught up and looking forward to following the game with you all!

Fucking finally Razmos explained it. Thank you ;w;

Oooh what did I explain!?

Day start is up :D Everyone go check out the sweet beats and the carnage >:D

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Speaking of, Scum just saw the result and Chuggs is freaking because he has no idea how Raz died.

This amuses me greatly

Sorry Razmos :(

Hey not your fault! I assumed that scum wouldn't go for you since it would unlock Jman's other shot, I chose wrong!

BTW Razmos would have died if he had visted any two of these players:
- nin (Kaine the miller)
- Sparks (Kalil and beepy)
- Stove (Roc)
- Chuggs (Shadowlord)
- MrHedin (Grimoire Noir)
- SalvaPot (Hansel)
- Hagi (Gretel)

Basically the entire mafia team, the two neutrals, and our miller XD Lore wise it's because all are connected with shades (except for Noir) and those are dangerous dreams for a mayor to be in. XD

Oh my word, I knew I had lots of chances to die but not that many!

Reki knows who I visited last night, as he said, the brilliant plan we concocted together failed :(

 

[lokiduck]

Oooh what did I explain!?

The connection between Fyra and the King ;w;

Oh my word, I knew I had lots of chances to die but not that many!

Reki knows who I visited last night, as he said, the brilliant plan we concocted together failed :(

Hey it's not all bad, somehow you didn't chat with a single non townie XD You might have made it to endgame if not for Scum's evil plan.

BTW they killed Aeleus, because they figure they can just roleblock Jman tonight if he lives.

Waste of a perfectly good Roleblock tho, Jman only had one shot.

 

[Stuart444]

town are so fucked. RIP

 

[lokiduck]

LOL Hagi is claiming the mayor of Aerie as a commuter. I actually planned on suggesting that, but we suggested a vanilla claim for that role.

Commuter works perf tho.

 

[lokiduck]

Also if only scum realized they are in Lylo, they could just have the town read Hedin walk in with a red check on Jman and fucking win.

 

[heymonkey]

wow that day start post

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[Razmos]

The connection between Fyra and the King ;w;


Hey it's not all bad, somehow you didn't chat with a single non townie XD You might have made it to endgame if not for Scum's evil plan.

BTW they killed Aeleus, because they figure they can just roleblock Jman tonight if he lives.

Waste of a perfectly good Roleblock tho, Jman only had one shot.

I knew my obsession with the lore of the Nier games would come in handy at some point :P
Absolutely loved the touches you guys put into the roles and their abilities, you've clearly put a lot of work into this!
I apologise on behalf of town for how one-sided the game currently is haha

 

[lokiduck]

I knew my obsession with the lore of the Nier games would come in handy at some point :P
Absolutely loved the touches you guys put into the roles and their abilities, you've clearly put a lot of work into this!
I apologise on behalf of town for how one-sided the game currently is haha

It's not your fault. XD You did great :D I love your plan with Reki.

And thank you so much ;w; I'm really proud of some of the roles we came up with. Fun fact: your role was going to be called a Gossip that Hides but Pedro said we had to be more uniform on the role names for the role cops (tho it didn't matter with your role) I won out on the Role Fisher tho. :p

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Speaking of, now that our more fun/complex roles have been revealed, what was everyone's favorite role?

 

[lokiduck]

LOL Scum really doesn't know they are in Lylo.

 

[Geno]

At least I hope Stove wins, doesn't deserve to lose, town totally does.

 

[lokiduck]

At least I hope Stove wins, doesn't deserve to lose, town totally does.

Agreed on Stove winning. c: His role is the reason I even wanted to make this game. XD

 

[lokiduck]

Reki sends their regards to the dead in spec. C:

 

[Verelios]

At least I hope Stove wins, doesn't deserve to lose, town totally does.

Stove has every chance to win if he isn't lunched today.

 

[lokiduck]

Or killed during the night phase LOL. That'd be bad for him and scum actually.

 

[Razmos]

I think there is very little chance of Stove being lunched, it will be hagi or jman for sure.

 

[lokiduck]

$20 says theres actually no scum.
Its just town eating each other till the world ends.

To be fair this would fit Nier 100%

 

[lokiduck]

Well good news Reki... all the negative town powers I think are dead... Well besides you of course. But you have a benefit XD

 

[Razmos]

To be fair this would fit Nier 100%

Lol so true, I love how we werent even sure if Nier himself was town

 

[lokiduck]

Lol so true, I love how we werent even sure if Nier himself was town

;)

 

[Aeleus]

I think I'm going to take a break from playing mafia games for a bit after this, need to get back to designing my current wip game.