Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I dunno. I meant what I said in the thread - I'm not sure the last strong outting I saw from town Sorian. To be fair I don't follow every single game (especially the ones run on OM like PR/Mini V).
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Hey Dragon Mom, think we can prop up raxander as another wagon? We both had them as scum leans, so could be worth a shot. Being on Chuggs will look mighty suspicious after he picked up steam so fast.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
:( Sorry Donna if you ever read this. Just was looking for something unexpected to shake up the reads on me a little.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
Hey Dragon Mom, think we can prop up raxander as another wagon? We both had them as scum leans, so could be worth a shot. Being on Chuggs will look mighty suspicious after he picked up steam so fast.
Sure. Right now I’m on xbro
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Actually I'll just join you on Xbro to be consistent with our collaboration strategy.
 
S-Dubs
Dr. Stu
BraWaveZ
Fantohead

If we can get rid of these teams before we take too many scum losses I think we'll be in a good spot. A lot of the other teams are being more passive and are less apt to make strong, sustained pushes.
You and I are in a weird spot in particular. Momkey is givin you the side eye hard, even more so after that abrupt Donna vote. I feel Sorian's death today is a lock, which means both Fanto and Momkey will be coming for our head next. Of the two, if we nk Fanto, then momkey will probably hard scum read us based on her recent comments. Though I think we could get away with a Dr. Stu nk since Fanto seems alone in her suspicion for us currently.

So my picks would be BraWave or Fantohead.
 
Actually I'll just join you on Xbro to be consistent with our collaboration strategy.
Good move. With a split like this we need to separate ourselves as much as possible without doing anything too weird. Which is why @Natiko your vote confused me lol. A random lynch that likely isn't moving anywhere this late in the day looks very bad. At this point you were better off voting for one of the leaders and saving that conquest for tomorrow.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Good move. With a split like this we need to separate ourselves as much as possible without doing anything too weird. Which is why @Natiko your vote confused me lol. A random lynch that likely isn't moving anywhere this late in the day looks very bad. At this point you were better off voting for one of the leaders and saving that conquest for tomorrow.
Nah, feeding into the Sorian wagon wasn't going to do me any favors either. Terra - what's your in game read of kyonna so I know how to answer kyan?
 
I have a minute while waiting on my carpool rider. Vote seems farther apart than it is since Coolest can cause a 2 vote shift, or theoretically L_P by using the command after? I dunno. I think between Sorian and Monkey/Stu I would rather keep Sorian around but I can't exactly say that in the game thread.
 
Nah, feeding into the Sorian wagon wasn't going to do me any favors either. Terra - what's your in game read of kyonna so I know how to answer kyan?
Hence why I said one of the leaders and NOT Sorian. Clearly voting Sorian won't do you any favors, but neither does the vote you have right now if anyone bothers catching you other than Monkey. Chuggs would have made far more sense, for example. Just seems like a waste, but at least not too many have caught onto you yet.

And my read of kyonna has been neutral so far. Donna's absence hasn't done her any favors, but Kyan has been putting in work with his posting. Probably town lean more than a scum lean is what I would say.
 
I have a minute while waiting on my carpool rider. Vote seems farther apart than it is since Coolest can cause a 2 vote shift, or theoretically L_P by using the command after? I dunno. I think between Sorian and Monkey/Stu I would rather keep Sorian around but I can't exactly say that in the game thread.
Bit too late for that. Though I wish I were here to tell CS to not waste his ability on Sorian. I think that ability could have been better used elsewhere.
 
@Natiko in game Momkey asked about our chat, so my explanation is going to be we just agreed to share our thoughts and reads with one another before outright coming out in the thread itself, but ultimately how we come to our reads we decided independently. And I'll add that I prefer to not use the chat too much as I'd rather not skew my own views to simply matching yours.

Gotta explain somehow why we differ so much in game.
 
My gawd, Zipped might be nominated for covert scum MVP if this goes the way it's looking. His one post is causing one hell of a rift between the town players.
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Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
FantoZipped will be the main targets early tomorrow, which it’s too bad because they’ve generally had our backs lol
 
Came back, what the fuck is going ON.

Anyways, we should kill Brazil.
Yep totes agreed. Kill Brazilio, scan Vere (or alternatively rac), block...er I forget what roles we know of now. Can someone compile them into a list?

Fantipped, Dr. Stu, and SkuChuggs are all viable mislynches tomorrow so I feel that we should stay off of them for now with anything other than a block. In fact I wouldn't be against blocking one of the three of them to make their claim tomorrow all the more hard to get away with.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
If Dr. Monkey is a PR then they are being very aggressive.

But then again, Brazil is being fairly out there for a Doctor.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
Since our block is unlimited, I have no qualms using it to try and guarantee a kill.

Block Brazil
Kill FluxWave

Is a solid combo
 
Is it worth skipping a night role-copping in fear of the tracker, or just claim 2-shot if you're caught?

If we're copping, it might be worth checking either rac or zipped/fanto.

I agree with killing Brazil/Flux. Hell, I'll put in the command now if we want.
 
Also sorry I was not around EoD :( I even left work a little early, but then got caught up in protestors on Metro (pro-abortion rights so I'm not even mad) and in insane traffic. You all did amazing though.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Killing the doctors should be the priority, I say kill um dead
The only argument I can see for killing elsewhere would be to preserve some modicum of reasoning for our green check and cop's continued survival, but it's risky since they're a strong boat and Terra and I are in the most precarious spot of all the scum boats right now.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
I think getting the doctor out of the way is more important, it can really jeopardize any other night kill attempts we make.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
the only qualm i have is that there is obviously a watcher, otherwise we wouldn't of been given a Ninja kill earlier

whoever NK's tonight should be someone other than AbsoFats or BaeLus
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m more worried it’s a tracker - if it’s a watcher no way they’ll be on BraWaveZ. If it’s a tracker I could see some World in which they target myself and Terra or Bae.
 
Wait, you want to block and kill the doc? I don't think we have to worry about self preservation this early into the game. We'd be better off using our ability elsewhere imo.

And I don't think we're as bad off as you're fearing Nat. Like I said earlier, I'm townread by most, and today Fanto and the late Sorian were the only ones really pushing for our lynch, and now the latter is dealt with and there were a few events today to draw fire away from us (double vote giving CS more attention, Fantipped not playing exceptionally well topped off with Zipped's weird post, people like Geno promising to turn on Monkey if Sorian flips town, etc).
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I personally feel like blocking there is better than just blind targeting. I doubt there’s more than maybe one other useful PR to block (the tracker/watcher).
 
Sorry about using double vote today without asking by the way guys, but we needed something to make me seem town and if I or others go now it might help make others look a little cleaner.
 
It's okay, the double vote definitely made a few people town read you, which is good. It might be worth it for Coolest or L_P to do the NK; I think if there is a watcher they're the least likely to be watched. Pirate Malus cannot do it if they want to use their role cop shot (which they should), and Terra/Natiko can't do the kill if they want to Role Block (which they absolutely should). I agree with Fat that we should probably kill the doctors, just so in the future we don't have to worry about it. We might not always have a role blocker, after all. I'm fully prepared to do the NK, but it's a bigger risk I think.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@dragon mom I don’t have a big preference on the role check, but whoever you use it on needs to be someone you have a good explanation for checking over anyone else in case you’re tracked and have to explain your movement.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I don't agree with killing the doctor straight away. Right now I'm more worried about the tracker/watcher. If they out one of us the whole house of cards may come down on us. If we kill and check outside of the doctors we double our chances of finding them.

We know Kyonna are the gossips and BraWave are the doctors. I guess RexBro are vanilla based on Rekis question (could be a ruse though).
I'm going to go check the game thread again to see if I can find any clue as to who the messenger may be.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Biggest suspect for messenger is FantoPinhead. Fanto was pretty much the only one that commented on the message reveal. He was also open to a CoolestBeat vote at D1 end and also had some posts with "Cool" highlighted which may be bread crumbs. The wording of the message doesn't sound like Fanto to me though; could be zipped wrote it or they have some prewritten messages to choose from.

I should train an AI on writing behaviour of all participants and cross reference it with the message, but I think that's going a bit too far...
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
I really don’t see why we wouldn’t want to get the protective role out of the way ASAP

Going through a single night without a kill sets us back
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
I’ve got to get some sleep, whatever is decided make sure actions are put in more than two hours before the day starts
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
We have to decide what to do soon. At the very least everyone should put tentative commands in so there's no concern about the deadline, they can be changed later.

@CoolestSpot @Lone_Prodigy One of you need to submit a kill
@malus @dragon mom One of you need to submit a check

I don't care who the check goes on so long as it's someone you think you can explain checking in the event you're seen moving.

The kill can go on Brazil to be safe, or if we want to hunt the tracker we can. I doubt rac/VA are the tracker since VA diverged from rac's firm read on Bae which I don't think would occur if they knew she had visited a different person than she said.
 
I'm probably going to be afk at day start. It looks like my pup's cancer suddenly grew and blocked her ability to pee. She's at the vet now and we're looking at options to save her, but I've known from the start we were fighting the inevitable. I'm a fucking mess right now
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I'm probably going to be afk at day start. It looks like my pup's cancer suddenly grew and blocked her ability to pee. She's at the vet now and we're looking at options to save her, but I've known from the start we were fighting the inevitable. I'm a fucking mess right now
Sorry to hear that. Take all the time you need.

Role Cop: SkyOdin and TheChuggernaut
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm probably going to be afk at day start. It looks like my pup's cancer suddenly grew and blocked her ability to pee. She's at the vet now and we're looking at options to save her, but I've known from the start we were fighting the inevitable. I'm a fucking mess right now
:( Extreme sadness. Take all the time you need - no one's going to blame you if you need to step away (or out) of the game. That's awful :(
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
SUBMITTING ON BEHALF OF COOLESTSPOT AND LONE_PRODIGY:
KILL: Brazil

This can be overwritten, but I want a kill down too seeing as it's the most important of them all lol
 
I'm probably going to be afk at day start. It looks like my pup's cancer suddenly grew and blocked her ability to pee. She's at the vet now and we're looking at options to save her, but I've known from the start we were fighting the inevitable. I'm a fucking mess right now
Man I'm so sorry for you, the pup, and everybody dealing with that. I hope it all works out, and yeah, no blame if you gotta go cause you can't contribute.
 
Was your sole reason for the block and kill on Brazil because you're fearful of a potential self heal? @Natiko I guess I can't blame you for taking the safe approach, but personally I didn't agree with that motion.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Was your sole reason for the block and kill on Brazil because you're fearful of a potential self heal? @Natiko I guess I can't blame you for taking the safe approach, but personally I didn't agree with that motion.
I just don't value a random block. It's a 1/8 chance we hit the tracker with it and even if we do we'll have no idea. I'd rather block Brazil in any scenario and kill elsewhere if we want to hunt the tracker.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
All it takes is Brazil deciding Bae is full of it and by extension being uncertain on AbsolutFat. Who would he protect in that scenario? Maybe he just self protects due to not having strong feelings on who will be targeted and seeing his brother die N1. I just don't see the benefit of blocking in the unknowns vs. killing in the unknowns if we're that worried about the tracker.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Even if we ignore Brazil entirely and use both of our abilities on the unknowns we'd be sitting at a 25% chance of having targeted the tracker. Still not great odds.
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
@absolutbro and @Fat4all have received a message.

Our first message to CoolestBeat was a way to try to provoke a reaction. We wanted to see how that team would react. We obviously feel much better about them now. This message to you is not a way to test a reaction though. We're sending this to you specifically because we're confident you're town. How EoD played out was a mess. We've been talking about it and we're pretty sure there's scum between Vere and Fanto. Those are the two teams that we plan on looking at tomorrow. As a show of good faith we'll tell you who we are. We'll leave what to do with that information up to you. We are SkyChuggs.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
Very sorry to hear about your pup AB...my thoughts are with you and your family. Take all the time you need.

Let me know if I can be of any help
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
There’s a world in which we can make the gossip and mailmen into a thunderdome chain lynch.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Cool. I've read a bit but it seems like town is in a bad spot?

I feel like I should ask for a TL;DR in the thread but that's what Coolest is supposedly for, so...
To be fair no one would be surprised if Coolest hadn’t given you much of a recap lol
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
all of this messenger/gossips shit the perfect obfuscation

this could be two day periods worth of distractions away from us
 
Also as proven town gonna try to be town leader and if you guys want to post suggestions for LP and me please do. But gonna try to take strong hold of choas and point fingers at mafia a lil to gain trust, but mostly go after Stu/dr.monkey and others as this all develops cause I think we're in postion were we can easily lead people to do so.
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
ok, this is a really tough spot for Pirate/Malus

I can't see you both surviving a lynch tomorrow if you live through one more night

there's no excuse for scum to NOT NK a cop role the next night
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
@dragon mom @malus the more I think about it, the more likely I think it is you two get lynched either today or tomorrow

there's too much noise around it, and I don't think it goes away without sommit drastic happening

at least you're role got the doctors axed
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
you know what, being seem a lot more ambivalent on the one-shot cop thing then i would of expected

but they're also not really on board with thinking the gossipers/messengers could be scum, too

low energy all around
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
you know what, being seem a lot more ambivalent on the one-shot cop thing then i would of expected

but they're also not really on board with thinking the gossipers/messengers could be scum, too

low energy all around
I think Chuggs will be booted at some point, no doubt in my mind. We absolutely should not kill the gossips before then.
 
I think I'm terrible at playing town and covering it up, and people well see my scum easily and I'll waste being confirmed town, but I guess we'll see.
 
you know what, being seem a lot more ambivalent on the one-shot cop thing then i would of expected

but they're also not really on board with thinking the gossipers/messengers could be scum, too

low energy all around
this group seems super surface level, but again we're on D3, but they seem open to everything so far
 
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