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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I love your optimism.

I failed grotesquely by not nailing one of the remaining scum pairs on D2. I was too preoccupied with all that. The fact that they survived the role cop flip is surreal.

The last one is well-hidden, but not impossible to find.
LET'S GO MONKEY
Ok, so she's not crazy here? Lmao, wow.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lone_Prodigy said:
I'm not taking credit for the "vanillas first" plan either. I think that was Fanto's idea, and he flipped town.
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Franconp

Frank
Day 1:

Right now I'm leaning on voting Pirate Malus, CoolestBeat or Absol4on

As some people have said Pirate Bae is playing very similar as she did in Mafiera, calling the leading lynch as a weak push and then giving weak reads herself. Malus is playing extremely safe.

There is something about Coolest that doesnt' feel right to me. He is playing different from my meta on him, way more careful from what I would expect from him. Also that post about partners and roles is still bugging me.

Regarding Absol4on I feel that Ty is detached from the game. He just come, gives some insight and then banish. It's very close as like he plays as scum.

The one time that I have good reads and they kill me.
 
I guess it really is totally normal that Coolest pointed out that I was a powerful PR the day before scum killed me. The fact that Monkey’s theory about a role cop was confirmed has no bearing on that.
I didn't know what your role was, I legit didnt like how quiet you were and assumed you were trying not to be killed and lose town a power role. You were different then any time I played with you before.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
no-fun Pedro:
Hopefully never :P don't want people taking another word from black people and using it as their own, especially in here
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, I just spoke to Z-Beat.

Yes, we all know here in spoiler tag land that he and Coolest, now LP and Sae, are Scum here.

But in the nested spoiler tag land, we actually know more than just that.

And I am now deep down in the salt mines thinking about some posts and votes that I have made throughout the game directed at a certain team that no one else believed me about...

:bus:
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I was going to resist and not spoil myself, but I've fallen off the wagon following the game today and probably won't be able to catch up. Hopefully I'm not missing some intense excitement.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I’m having a bad math day, are they in any kind of “”lose” possibility today?
No, at the worst case scenario of 2 Scum boats remaining, then it is 5-2 today.

A mislynch today does mean they'll head into the "We could be in LyLo" stage of the game tomorrow though.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Damn you Monkey for making sense! If they get Lone_Saenima today it will become an uphill battle for the last scum boat
But I like how even the playing field is. I can easily see the game go both ways right now.
 
Can somebody reveal both scum boats please? if it was said already I missed it - (Saenima + LP) and ???
 
I wish this day would just get to the madness of the final hour already!

Seriously 7 hours of nothin’ and I’m still on the edge of my seat
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Everyone remember those big posts I put out about Nat/Terra being Scum on almost every day I was alive?

And remember how many of y'all believed me and joined me to vote there?

Well, look where we are now...

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Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Well, I just spoke to Z-Beat.

Yes, we all know here in spoiler tag land that he and Coolest, now LP and Sae, are Scum here.

But in the nested spoiler tag land, we actually know more than just that.

And I am now deep down in the salt mines thinking about some posts and votes that I have made throughout the game directed at a certain team that no one else believed me about...

:bus:
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, question about remaining Scum:

What are the roles that they have? Is the Double Vote really just a 1-Shot Double Vote or are they a JoaT? And then what is Nat/Terra's role?
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
So, question about remaining Scum:

What are the roles that they have? Is the Double Vote really just a 1-Shot Double Vote or are they a JoaT? And then what is Nat/Terra's role?
the double vote is a 1 shot that only one of the two can use. iirc Nat and Terra are roleblockers, and blocked/killed the doctors
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, 3 people not voting right now: Terra/LP/Sky.

If we assume they will vote with their partners, we end in a 7-7 tie today.

Vere and Apollo are currently split between the two vote leaders.

So who is going to move their vote, and where will they move it?

Stay tuned lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also, I'll take bets now for the spoiler crowd:

  1. Will FEPs/Stan be lunched in this game?
  2. Who will die first: Vere/Apollo or Kyan/Donna?
  3. Will Monkey realize that Natiko is Scum before LyLo?
  4. Will we reach a 2-1 LyLo with Monkey/Stu, Natiko/Terra, Sky/Chugg?
  5. Will Natiko/Terra go for Monkey/Stu, or Sky/Chugg in the above hypothetical LyLo phase?
  6. On a scale of 1-10, how angry will Chuggernaut be at the start of the above hypothetical LyLo phase?
  7. FINAL BET: Come up with the wildest bet you can think of, example below in my bets.

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My bets:
  1. Yes
  2. Kyan/Donna
  3. Yes
  4. Yes
  5. Monkey/Stu
  6. 10
  7. FINAL BET: Natiko will self-vote in LyLo like he did in 999.
 
Fantomas,

What was the reason behind 7? Because I’ll be honest if I ever made it to that situation as town, I wouldn’t care and just do the thing that y’all hate

hammer time
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
scum is winning this game, it's not even close
"Living in despair isn't living at all. Don't give up!"

"The worst thing we can do right now is lose all faith in each other. That would lead to the same disastrous result as having *total* faith in everyone else."

"The act of searching for hope, to try and find it—that by itself is the true meaning of hope. As long as you have that hope, you can keep moving forward no matter what trouble you may fall into."

"Maybe they're platitudes, yeah. But that's how it always starts! When reality threatens you with despair, you look to the future, believe in it, and put that belief into words. That's how hope spreads!"

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Is it true that this community made a Danganronpa 1 Mafia and a Danganronpa 3 Mafia, but no Danganronpa 2 Mafia? :thinking:
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fantomas,

What was the reason behind 7? Because I’ll be honest if I ever made it to that situation as town, I wouldn’t care and just do the thing that y’all hate

hammer time
I can't remember the full specifics of it

but it was something like, someone said he was Scum and voted him, then he self voted and was like "Oh, no one hammered me, I wonder who the Scum team is" lol.
 
Bets:

1: yes
2: Vere team
3: yes - tomorrow
4: no, monkey dies night after tonight
5: convince sky/chugg to vote other team (which I think is Kyonna)
6: 10
7: chuggernaut leads a charge to take Natiko to lunch tomorrow and no one believes them
 
"Living in despair isn't living at all. Don't give up!"

"The worst thing we can do right now is lose all faith in each other. That would lead to the same disastrous result as having *total* faith in everyone else."

"The act of searching for hope, to try and find it—that by itself is the true meaning of hope. As long as you have that hope, you can keep moving forward no matter what trouble you may fall into."

"Maybe they're platitudes, yeah. But that's how it always starts! When reality threatens you with despair, you look to the future, believe in it, and put that belief into words. That's how hope spreads!"

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Is it true that this community made a Danganronpa 1 Mafia and a Danganronpa 3 Mafia, but no Danganronpa 2 Mafia? :thinking:
After our Sicilian island vacation season 1, I’m not sure the community is allowed at resorts anymore...
 
I can't remember the full specifics of it

but it was something like, someone said he was Scum and voted him, then he self voted and was like "Oh, no one hammered me, I wonder who the Scum team is" lol.
Literally presenting the remaining players with a Monty Hall problem...

I know exactly what I would do

 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Chuggs da MVP. That was a scary end of day. Scum could have really easily shifted votes and stolen that day, then killed 2 more townies at night.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Is it true that this community made a Danganronpa 1 Mafia and a Danganronpa 3 Mafia, but no Danganronpa 2 Mafia? :thinking:

Nagito is 90% lynchproof. If he ends up being lynched, he takes 2 scummates with him because of his good luck.
 

Xbro

Bags his own tea
Okay I haven't been following the game, what is the context of LP quoting my posts?
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
If only you posted this in scum chat:

I didn't know what your role was, I legit didnt like how quiet you were and assumed you were trying not to be killed and lose town a power role. You were different then any time I played with you before.

And not this:

HOLY SHIT DON'T SAY IM TRYING TO LOOK TOWN AND ADMITTED IT.

PLACE YOUR HEAD ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK RIGHT NOW INSTEAD.

:P
 
I hope they catch remaining scum because 48h night this weekend is zzzz, I want to see what will happen!
 
Well, there was an attempt :/
Thanks for coming in so late! I doubt id have done any better with my frantic playstyle either, monkey saw through me.

You almost tied it! Tbh at the end everyone was staring at L_P and how his reaction compared to last games.
 
Nat also has foresight to agree with monkey out of gate and throw the other scum under bus for some victory, but wonder if Monkey will point out how easy it was to convince scum.

Bit salty that what caught attention on us was that I was a JOAT(nope) and that we knew Brazil's role when I made those posts (haha nope). But the rest was right so fucking hell I suck
 

saenima

Not Aeleus
Attempt nothing, that was some darn good scum play. You nearly forced a tie! That’s to be commended!

Seriously, good work

Thanks. Between being lttp, the general scummy read on Coolest and actually being very busy irl i had little to work with lol. I just tried to go at it with Dr Monkey to try and convince anyone else watching the conversation. I was never gonna get her.

Thanks for coming in so late! I doubt id have done any better with my frantic playstyle either, monkey saw through me.

You almost tied it! Tbh at the end everyone was staring at L_P and how his reaction compared to last games.

Yeah i was being honest when i said that was unfair btw. Judging someone's game on stuff that happened years ago is heh. Monkey did have a lot more than that though. She's good at this.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, there was an attempt :/
You did fine given the circumstances, subbing in this late as Scum and then being immediately put under the microscope because of a scum read on your predecessor. Not exactly an easy spot for anyone.
 

saenima

Not Aeleus
You did fine given the circumstances, subbing in this late as Scum and then being immediately put under the microscope because of a scum read on your predecessor. Not exactly an easy spot for anyone.

The only thing i'm disappointed in is that this was my first time scum :/

Can't wait until i play scum for real tbh
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Who would you flip tomorrow, and if they flipped Town, who would you go for in LyLo?
Admittedly, it's been tough for me to really follow this game because of work. (If spectating this game has reminded me of anything, it's that Hecht rhythm really doesn't pair up well with my free time!) Without reading the spoilers, I think my earlier concerns about Dr. Stu have been set aside - I just can't see them as bussing by now. Were I playing and they were still in play at D7 then I might have started asking 'why are you two still alive?', but I think that would have been nothing but tunnel vision speaking.

I suppose that I'd be thinking of looking between Sky/Chuggs and Kyan/Donna - at this point, how certain would I be that the messengers and gossips are on the same side? The alternative would be deciding if one of the outstanding vanilla claims is dodgy - Dr. Stu would be a tough sell by now, so that would leave Terriko and Flat Stanley. Given that the latter were the alternative train today, that in turn would lead to the question of whether today was town vs. scum or scum vs. scum - or, for that matter, if there's still a neutral in the mix somehow. Too many questions.
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Honestly this entire game is a failure because not a single photoshopped "not Penny's boat" image was used
 

rac

whatever
last time i listen to the thread on what makes someone confirmed town

why didn't you just double vote malus bae though
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The only thing i'm disappointed in is that this was my first time scum :/

Can't wait until i play scum for real tbh
Scum is fun, I feel like I could do better now than I did last time since that was only my second game. It was really hard though, I couldn't keep myself together for long.
last time i listen to the thread on what makes someone confirmed town
Just listen to me instead.

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rac

whatever
verelios and apollo
natiko and terraforce
dr. Monkey and stuart444
skyOdin and thechuggernaut
stantastic and flatearthpandas
kyanrute and empressdonna

nk vere

natiko and terraforce
dr. monkey and stuart444
skyOdin and thechuggernaut
stantastic and flatearthpandas
kyanrute and empressdonna

lunch fep

natiko and terraforce
dr. monkey and stuart444
skyOdin and thechuggernaut
kyanrute and empressdonna

nk donna

natiko and terraforce
dr. monkey and stuart444
skyodin and thechuggernaut

i dont see any other way, still a p tough road i guess but its possible
 
Rac I agree with your likely scenario for next night and next day but night 2...


. I think monkey/ Stu might be a target, especially if their team leads the vote on FEP or starts entertaining Natiko as scum.

Paranoia, especially as the last scum. Can get you.

No way chuggs doesn’t make it to Lylo though.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Rac I agree with your likely scenario for next night and next day but night 2...


. I think monkey/ Stu might be a target, especially if their team leads the vote on FEP or starts entertaining Natiko as scum.

Paranoia, especially as the last scum. Can get you.

No way chuggs doesn’t make it to Lylo though.
That's how I see it as well
Dr. Monkey is too smart to not see through Natiko/Terra by lylo. Their push for the Lone_Saenima lunch was half hearted at best and she will definitely pick up on that. If that should happen, Naterra will have a hard time convincing SkyChuggs to vote for Dr. Stu and I think they would have a better time playing Kyonna and SkyChuggs against each other.
And if Faddys championship game is anything to go by, being confirmed town does not protect you from a mislunch anyway.
Next night and day are pretty much set though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
That's how I see it as well
Dr. Monkey is too smart to not see through Natiko/Terra by lylo. Their push for the Lone_Saenima lunch was half hearted at best and she will definitely pick up on that. If that should happen, Naterra will have a hard time convincing SkyChuggs to vote for Dr. Stu and I think they would have a better time playing Kyonna and SkyChuggs against each other.
And if Faddys championship game is anything to go by, being confirmed town does not protect you from a mislunch anyway.
Next night and day are pretty much set though.
Man, it would be something if this is how it turns out.

I can see the case being made that Kyonna would be more willing to go for SkyChugg than Dr. Stu, but man I would find it extremely hard for me to trust the lone Vanilla claimant left in the game no matter how much bus cred they've earned for themselves.

Also, for both Kyonna and SkyChugg, they would need to convince themselves that the other faked their first (and for SkyChugg, second as well) uses of their powers on their own Scum mates and that all the talk about Bae being taken by Kyonna and SkyChugg sending Coolest/Z-Beat and AB/Ty messages was all fabricated or else was part of an Intra-Scum-Gambit to go along with the rest of them.

If they leave it so that it is both Natiko and Monkey in there as the last Vanilla claims though? If I'm either Sky or Chugg in that scenario, I think I just start crying lol.
 
End game house of horrors might have gone horribly but it's given me some faith in Chuggs, we really started to get our stuff together at the end. I think if it's SkyChuggs, Kyonna and Naterra I think he'll be able to work it out.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Look at Nat's voting history:

Most voted for:
absolutbro (4)
pirate bae (2)
z-beat (1)
lone_prodigy (1)
stantastic (1)
coolestspot (1)
sorian (1)
ty4on (1)
empressdonna (1)

Voted AB all game except when he bussed the other scum.

It's too perfect.

Let's see if town picks up on that.
 
Monkey is gonna have to drag her partner and the rest across the finish line for the third time, it seems.

Edit 3: Welp lol
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Stuart444 said:
For the record incase we get turbo happy:

Skychuggs -> Flatstan or Flatstan -> Skychuggs

One of them is scum, the other is town.

Order doesn't matter, we can afford one mislunch and ONLY one.

We'll win before scum.
Natiko said:
Yeah, this is my takeaway as well.
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Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Monkey is gonna have to drag her partner and the rest across the finish line for the third time, it seems.
This is - still without having read the spoilers - largely why I've been surprised that Dr. Stu haven't been a night target yet. Taking out Verollo might not have given town a lot to go on, but if Dr. Stu were town and I were scum, I wouldn't want to risk them being around to do any heavy lifting in the last leg. That's just my take, though.
 
If Chuggs is scum after sending me lyrics to a great fun song ima be mad but partner has a fair case. :/ I still firmly believe it’s not flatstandas so we have a sneak somewhere. But I have had much time and now our power is out and my phone is almost dead so I’ll be back later. Not sure when. Trees down all over after a bad storm.
I love someone.
 
Why on Earth was Monkey left alive.....
Kill the celebrity, only guaranteed townie left in the game.

The theory is that it increased suspicion when prominent players stay to the end of the game...

with good reason since Natiko’s Team is scum, and in a game where both their team and monkey’s team were town surely one would have been got already
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Town can win this still, but oh my god Scum is so close now, I am going to be sweating out these last days hard lol.
 
Kill the celebrity, only guaranteed townie left in the game.

The theory is that it increased suspicion when prominent players stay to the end of the game...

with good reason since Natiko’s Team is scum, and in a game where both their team and monkey’s team were town surely one would have been got already
Yup. This should honestly be between them from the get-go today based simply on that, hahaha.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
This was a bad game for me. I actually asked Polly yesterday what the chance Nat being scum was, because unlike Monkey, as scum he doesn't have a problem with teammates doing out of left field gambits. And then I died =/.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Kyanrute said:
Why can't they be the lone objection and the lone self-counter to the maddening scum plan? Donna posted their vote record in our chat, it is really amazing. Full of scum, top notch town play in a game where every townie fell on themselves and only managed to pick themselves up because the scum's insanity was not planned deeply enough.

What did LP say earlier again?

Look at Nat's voting history:

Most voted for:
absolutbro (4)
pirate bae (2)
z-beat (1)
lone_prodigy (1)
stantastic (1)
coolestspot (1)
sorian (1)
ty4on (1)
empressdonna (1)

Voted AB all game except when he bussed the other scum.

It's too perfect.

Let's see if town picks up on that.
YUP!
 

rac

whatever
This was a bad game for me. I actually asked Polly yesterday what the chance Nat being scum was, because unlike Monkey, as scum he doesn't have a problem with teammates doing out of left field gambits. And then I died =/.
we didnt learn from our past mistakes and now the same thing happened

at least with my dying breath i said scum but thats never enough especially with how paranoid i was acting
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Never underestimate how much town can tinfoil themselves.
I agree, which is why I would've taken out the leader. Let the town go into panicked disarray. I understand why scum did what they did. I just would've went the more risky, potentially hilarious route.
 
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