Spectator Thread Home away from hell

Fanto

Confirmed Town
He was shrugging earlier, I remember him explaining the Kanye shrug to people and how it is meant to be playful.

However, this could be the Scum tell! It's not that he doesn't *truffleshuffle* enough, it's that he doesn't *shrug* enough!

8dN2iWD.gif
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
4 person scum team + double kills, seems legit
It's like, did they forget this game only had 15 players?

The only time I've seen Bonus Kills outside of Bombs for Scum, were in House of Horrors and GoT (both Natiko games, hmmm...) where the former was because the Scum team was smaller than usual and the latter was part of the JoaT's kit.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I would be amazed if they actually voted out Zeke today. Everyone else seems to think he's just Town here.

I still think it will go to either Melon, Swamped, or Sparks.
 
Nah I don't think Kits has convinced anyone about Zeke. I think it's either melon or sparks with a small chance of Stan.
 

cabot

Why.
The Miller should really be standing out there, the cop was chance-dependant with the result-via-proxy mechanic.

There's supposed to be a role in the game that could've wasted that single shot as well?
 
If Sparks is lynched it will be interesting to see where this will go, Zeke doesn't necessarily need to kill Stan but might. Swamped will go foe Stan I think. If both target the same person and lynch Swamped then Zeke kills Kits and it's 2-1. With probably Melon Rac and Zeke, which that will be interesting to see.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
There's supposed to be a role in the game that could've wasted that single shot as well?
Well, technically yes, because Zeke is a Godfather, and technically because of the Motivator they could have gotten another shot. A scenario that could easily have played out is the Cop using the check on N1, claiming it, then being both protected and motivated on N2.

But there definitely aren't two roles like that!
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
What made you think Zeke is dirty?
Scum Zeke has a certain way about him. He would also never be this active or helpful unless there was a motive. I've mentioned in previous games that scums have tells in the way that they post that they can never seem to escape ("I can get behind a *name* vote"). I'm bad at explanations but I'm a hard person to bullshit

Go Kitsune GOOOOoooo
 
Kitsunelaine said:
also i can't help but feel like zeeks has been trying to push a narrative
rac said:
ive felt p good about ezekel the whole game but it would be easy for scum to vote fireblend knowing that the vote was going nowhere for credit later
Kitsunelaine said:
Because in a game of only 15 people where everyone has a power role I think the scum team is 3.

Vote: EzekelRAGE

This is going to be the final place my vote is parked tonight.

Yes!!!

Zeke reacted a bit too much to these posts in my opinion. Knowing Kits posts a lot, it would've been better to just ignore that and wait for her to pick another thread.

Come on town, you can win this.
 
Last edited:

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Since sparks is soft confirmed scum I think the best play here would be for him to do some vote/unvote shit to end in a tie if there is a 1 vote difference before day end

Zeke would need 'to forget' voting tho, and rac may be around
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I'm playing catch up so here are some of my reactions:

Kit:
Vote: melonrabbit

For once I'll pick the simple thing and deicde not to buy this.
Kit please no.

Sparks:
I'm one shot vig and I had to get rid of Maol because of the people who wanted him gone
This is definitely not a good look. He should have claimed Roleblocker for sure like Fanto said.

Swamped:
Great, thanks for coming forward. But if you are a one shot who shot nin/malus on N2? Did you get "motivated" by nin?
I see what she's doing and i like it. XD

Kits:
Y'know, everyone's claiming one-shot abilities. I think someone's lying among these.
It's not as suspicious when there's a town motivator. :pikathink:

Stan:
Thats not how my power fucking works, and i had already gone to sleep so i didn't see the reminder that that isn't how it works until it was too late.
That is unfortunate and I have a feeling Stan will be the NK target tonight. :/

Zeke:
So scum were given fake names........do we think they were given fake roles as well.
1f914.png
I see what's Zeke is doing and I like it.

-Again Zeke's doing a good job covering his tracks via attacking Stan for his seemingly pointless role and claiming to not be sure how many scum are left. He is def an MVP for this game. Kits is agreeing with him at least.

-Good on Stan for putting more focus on Sparks. They need to stop just letting him slip through their fingers.

rac:
stans role is not as useless as you guys are making it out to be

with all the extra nks it was v probable someone (multiple people?) would claim big

stan is able to test sparks claim
Go rac Go!

rac:
so just because there was another cop, who was one shot and could have had their results go to scum there can't be a flavor cop

i mean there's a lot of restrictions set for stan
and if the role is true stan is dead tonight anyways
Go rac Go!

Kits:
also i can't help but feel like zeeks has been trying to push a narrative
Go Kits Go!

-rac and Kits are on fire with their questioning and it's great.

-Swamped is still being very cautious and that's good, pushing attention on Melon seems reasonable.

-One thing about Zeke's gameplay is he is willing to push suspicion on basically everyone except for himself of course. He's willing to bus his partner sparks, but he's also pretty evenly dishing out suspicion on everyone else except for Rac. That might come back to bite him as not really committing to his scum suspects.

-Good on Kits for voting Zeke and Stan for voting Sparks. The problem is now that Kits have left, Zeke can keep pushing a scum narrative on her so it's on town to not believe him.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
The Miller should really be standing out there, the cop was chance-dependant with the result-via-proxy mechanic.

There's supposed to be a role in the game that could've wasted that single shot as well?

Yes. It is called Godmother.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Since sparks is soft confirmed scum I think the best play here would be for him to do some vote/unvote shit to end in a tie if there is a 1 vote difference before day end

Zeke would need 'to forget' voting tho, and rac may be around
I wish this happens
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
It seems Swamped is trying to kill town today to even the odds for her win con. She's thrown suspicion on melon before, I'm just unsure it'll work.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
It doesn't help that she's questioning the votes on Zeke and Sparks, aka the actual two scum.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Swamped wants to get to a 2-1-1 ideally, that's her best chance at winning.

If she can get Melon or another Town today, it goes to 3-2-1, then if she shoots Sparks tonight and Zeke shoots Town, it's 2-1-1. If Zeke shoots her though, it will hit her vest, and it will be 3-1-1 tomorrow, which is a bit rougher for her as she would need to make it past another day and night phase unscathed most likely.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I kind of think it's pretty unlikely that Swamped will win unless people really give up on any semblance of rational thought.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Oh good rac is questioning Swamped argument, her response will make or break her chances.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Melon will unfortunately have to be replaced as per the rules if she doesn't get 5 more posts in today, so it maybe wouldn't be the worst thing if she gets voted out.

I forgot to send warnings to her and Sparks after D3 (sent them earlier today) so I'll feel bad if I have to, I just wasn't thinking about it with the hammer on Febe and the excitement of a Scum flip in general, it just slipped my mind to check the post counts.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
30 before EOD on d4, this is a work of art lol

==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start

melonrabbit (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #1,421 #1,457
Swamped - #1,527

Kitsunelaine (1 votes)
Funky Dude Sparks - #1,533

Funky Dude Sparks (1 votes)
Stantastic - #1,514

EzekelRAGE (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #1,510

Stantastic (0 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #1,366 #1,421
Kitsunelaine - #1,457 #1,510

Not voting: melonrabbit, rac, EzekelRAGE

Post Counts:
EzekelRAGE: 44 Kitsunelaine: 39 rac: 30 Stantastic: 29 Swamped: 16 Funky Dude Sparks: 12 melonrabbit: 5

Current Countdown:
tve4v2bwya



Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
 
Zeke going for that town credit. That said, it looks way too opportunistic that I am really interested in seeing what happens during the next day phase.
 

Z-beat

only here for the flavor
Theres no way that hammer is enough to earn town credit. Zeke's always been hammer crazy so this is gonna come off as weird.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I wonder who will they kill, they could also double on the same kill, that could be best for town, probably
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
No night actions in yet, but I will keep you all updated in here. I'll maybe spoiler tag them though just in case anyone wants to be surprised at day start haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
First night action is in:

Zeke is shooting Rac.

He is currently hoping that the Neutral's win con will make them win and exit the game after getting another kill, and that they won't shoot him, leaving him in a 2-1 LyLo. He doesn't seem to be considering the idea of a normal Serial Killer who needs both Scum and Town to lose in order to win.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Stan has submitted his Coroner investigation on Aeleus. Unfortunately, Sparks is the one who submitted the kill on Aeleus, so the most he'll learn is that Sparks was lying about which target he shot that night.

Haha

Fluff cops :stan:
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The most Stan can really get at this point is the flavor name of the SK, which Rac already guessed earlier today. Zeke hasn't killed anyone until tonight, and Victoria is already mentioned all over the flavor for the Scum team anyways so that wouldn't be a shocker, she is the Vortex Club lol.

The best use he could have got out of it would be if the Vig claim from Scum had come out earlier and he was able to prove they were either lying about targeting them or lying about their flavor, which in both cases, is a lie worth being voted out for imo.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
The most Stan can really get at this point is the flavor name of the SK, which Rac already guessed earlier today. Zeke hasn't killed anyone until tonight, and Victoria is already mentioned all over the flavor for the Scum team anyways so that wouldn't be a shocker, she is the Vortex Club lol.

The best use he could have got out of it would be if the Vig claim from Scum had come out earlier and he was able to prove they were either lying about targeting them or lying about their flavor, which in both cases, is a lie worth being voted out for imo.
That's a fair point.
 
There's been some talk in spec about both activity and negative utility roles. This is only from my perspective but while I haven't been particularly active, this game never stopped being a blast and the negative aspect of my role was pretty fun to try and plan around.

The only criticism of this game I have is that my role PM never told me that the random player couldn't include me or the target so my maths was completely messed up >:(
----

Also concerning the call to action we had around game design I'd love to participate in mod chat some time in the future as I've come dangerously close to adopting scooby doo mafia multiple times, I just don't want to commit to something that I'm unsure that I can handle.
 

cabot

Why.
Negative utility roles are to be expected in Role Madness. They can't all be cops or vigis.


Well, they can but that's a whole other game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The only criticism of this game I have is that my role PM never told me that the random player couldn't include me or the target so my maths was completely messed up >:(
Yeah, sorry. Not all the PMs were super clear, I've realized that now based on questions people have had.
 

rac

whatever
Some role spoilers for night actions, no player names again:

So, Scum currently has their 1 Ninja shot down on the Doctor, and they are Roleblocking someone with a Day power.

The 1-Shot Town Watcher, at first, put in a watch on the Roleblocker's target. But just a little bit ago, they switched it to the Doctor, who is being Ninja killed, so they won't learn who killed them. :(

This is what we call "balance" in the game design world lol.
wow is there a way i can hate a post
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
by the way after i received those results whew
ive never felt that panic before in a game of mafia
Sending you those results, and then watching everything that happened that day, was definitely one of my favorite moments of the game lol, especially with how it all worked out well in the end still.
 

rac

whatever
Sending you those results, and then watching everything that happened that day, was definitely one of my favorite moments of the game lol, especially with how it all worked out well in the end still.
i was trying to bait a nk, so im just glad that didnt fucking work
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
i was trying to bait a nk, so im just glad that didnt fucking work
Yeah, they roleblocked you instead since they put together that you were a Watcher and thought you still had more shots, so it was still good bait for their PR at least.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
This is definitely a rough LyLo spot here for Town, it's going to be a bloody night if they don't hit Scum or the SK today.

It's pretty dicey for Swamped as well though, she is in policy territory now with that claim, but it's going to be up to the other players still, it's not like there's a rule that says they have to vote her out today.

Zeke is probably sitting in the safest position here at day start at least, I doubt he will get voted out until a final 3, and he has somewhat put on a Town Leader hat lately, even though it's a very suspicious looking hat.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Anyways, I'm gunna go play some Fire Emblem while we wait for some players to start posting. I just picked that up last night, pretty dope, I love tactics games like that but I've never played a FE game before.
 
Anyways, I'm gunna go play some Fire Emblem while we wait for some players to start posting. I just picked that up last night, pretty dope, I love tactics games like that but I've never played a FE game before.

Three houses? How is it? Interested in getting it at some point (I do enjoy tactics games. Played Disgaea and FF Tactics Advanced)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Three houses? How is it? Interested in getting it at some point (I do enjoy tactics games. Played Disgaea and FF Tactics Advanced)
Yeah, I really like it so far! I haven't played Disgaea, but the combat reminds me of Valkyria Chronicles, FF Tactics, and Shining Force 2, which are all some of my favorite tactics games. It also has some Persona/Danganronpa vibes with the way the calendar works, and you can spend free time talking to your party members and hanging out with them to build up a social link-esque system that gives them more abilities and stuff. It's a pretty cool mix of gameplay styles.
 
Welcome rac! You were asking good questions, I was cheering for you but there were two different kind of meanies on you. It wasn't meant to happen.

Kits is the only player I cheered for that's still alive.

Anyways, I'm gunna go play some Fire Emblem while we wait for some players to start posting. I just picked that up last night, pretty dope, I love tactics games like that but I've never played a FE game before.

Yes! Don't want to pressure or anything, but if you don't pick GD I'll never town-read you again. Have fun!

By the way I'm jokingly expecting Zeke to go semi-crazy because he's speaking to himself in the thread. And then claim as the last mafia, as has been tradition in this season.

Three houses? How is it? Interested in getting it at some point (I do enjoy tactics games. Played Disgaea and FF Tactics Advanced)

I'm (not) an expert in SRPGs, but if you enjoyed those you'll probably like FE. I've logged around three hours and it's pretty solid so far. Especially in the lore, music and gameplay departments. Have you seen any footage? Any specific questions?

Edit: Fanto's answer is pretty good.
 
Last edited:

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I last tried to play a FE game when Awakening came out and I hit a mission like 5-10 hours in that was too brutal for me and I’ve never gone back to the series since. A shame because I loved the FF Tactics games (and Advanced Wars).
 
I last tried to play a FE game when Awakening came out and I hit a mission like 5-10 hours in that was too brutal for me and I’ve never gone back to the series since. A shame because I loved the FF Tactics games (and Advanced Wars).

Were you playing in hard and/or classic?

Edit: although I'm not sure if it's ok to derail here. You may want to visit the OT and ask around. There're some nice folks over there.

Sorry!
 
Top Bottom