Game Thread The Last Night at the Trump White House

RetroMG

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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The seat of power in the Western World. The White House.

But tonight, under overcast skies, (rain later, temperature dropping to around 42F) there is a palpable feeling of tension, bordering on panic.

Tomorrow, he’s coming.

The word came through Hope Hicks, sprinting into the Oval Office itself, interrupting the President’s dinner of Four Big Macs, Three Filet O’ Fishes, Two Twenty Piece Chicken McNuggets, and a Partridge and a Pear Tree. (That last one is what Melania calls a fifteen piece bucket of fried chicken from KFC. She tries to get the chef to include pears so that Donald will eat something healthy, but she knows it’s hopeless. Donald would never eat fruit.)

Where was I?

Oh, yes.

Hope Hicks burst into the Oval Office, with the news, “Robert Mueller will be here tomorrow.”
“What!?” Eric Trump looked up, from where he’d been longingly gazing at his father’s dinner, “But how did he find out where Dad lives?”
Across the room, Jared Kushner ignored his brother-in-law, “If he’s going to be so brazen, he probably has something iron-clad on us. Someone flipped.”
“Manafort? Flynn?” John Kelly, White House Chief of Staff asked.
“No,” Donald Trump Junior, the President’s son, paced around the office, “He’s had them under his thumb for weeks. If that were all, we would have seen him by now.” He stopped, and gazed at the assembled party. “He got to someone else. Maybe even two people…”
“And it would have to have been someone in this room.”
Ivanka Trump, the President’s daughter, turned to look at Jeff Sessions, Attorney General. Jeff Sessions glared at Sarah Huckabee Sanders, White House Communications Director. Sarah turned to look at the President… who was not at his desk.
A note lay on the table, next to the empty bucket of fried chicken.

“Went to the panic ruum to wach Hanatee, let mee know when you’ve found the spys.
-Donald Trump”

“Well,” Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson shook his head. “Let’s take tonight to conduct our own investigations, and reconvene tomorrow morning before Mueller gets here. If we can find the mole or moles before then, we’ll know we’re safe.”

You have one night to find at least one of the moles in the White House. The night phase will occur first, and then you will have one twenty-four hour phase to locate the mole.
 
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RetroMG

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HOW TO PLAY ONE NIGHT ULTIMATE WEREWOLF

ONUW is a variant on the classic game of Werewolf. For this game, we have 13 roles, and 10 players. Roles are distributed to all players, with three roles being kept out. (These roles will be referred to as being "in the middle" because they would normally be kept in the middle of the table during a live game.) Each player will be informed of their role. The game will begin with the night phase, during which, all players will perform their given role action. (Role actions will be listed below.) The night phase will last 24 hours, (Monday to Tuesday) during which players will PM me their night actions. The day phase will then begin, running for 72 hours. (Tuesday to Thursday) During this time, the players will attempt to determine what happened during the night, and who the spies in the White House are. At the end of the day, there will be a voting period. This will last twenty-four hours (Thursday to Friday) or until all votes are received. At that time, I will reveal the outcome of the game, the night actions, and everyone's roles. If the members of the Trump administration (the town) find the spies, they will be victorious. If they fail to find either of the spies, the spies will be victorious, and the Trump administration will fall. (Might be the first game where I'm actively rooting for the scum team.)

One more note, because this is often confusing for new players - There will be a lot of role switching during the night, which means the role you start with might not be the role you end up with after the night. That means that you might end up becoming a wolf during the night without even knowing it. However, your win condition is based on what you are at the beginning of the day phase, so if you realize that you may have become a wolf, your job is now NOT TO GET CAUGHT. If you were a wolf at the start of the night and realize that you are now part of the town, your win condition is now to get a wolf killed. If you have any questions, please let me know.
 

RetroMG

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The roles in play and their actions, listed in the order in which their night actions occur:


The Wolf Team
Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Junior, the Werewolves - At the beginning of the night, the Werewolves are informed of who their partners are. (That is, assuming that both Werewolves are in play)
John Dowd, the Minion - The Minion is on the side of the Werewolves, and is informed of their identities. They are not informed of who the Minion is. The minion wins as long as neither wolf is killed, even if the minion dies instead.

The Village Team
John Kelly and Hope Hicks, the Masons - The Masons will be informed of each others' identities, and will know that the other can be trusted. If only one Mason is in play, they will be informed of such.
Jeff Sessions, the Seer - The Seer may look at one other player's role, or may look at two roles that are not in play. (In the "middle.")
Paul Ryan, the Robber - The Robber must swap his role with another player's role. The Robber is then informed of what his new role is.
Kellyanne Conway, the Troublemaker - The Troublemaker must swap two other players' roles. The Troublemaker is not informed of either player's role.
Steve Bannon, the Drunk - The Drunk must swap his role with one role from the middle. The Drunk is not informed of his new role.
Ivanka Trump, the Insomniac - The Insomniac is the last villager to wake up, and will be informed of what her role is at that time. (If she is still the insomniac, or if her role has changed)
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the Hunter - The Hunter does not wake up, but if the hunter is killed, the player he voted for will be killed instead.
Rex Tillerson, the Villager - The Villager is completely ordinary, and does not wake up.

Eric Trump, the Tanner - The Tanner hates his job, hates his life, and hates his village, and will only win if he can convince the village to kill him. He has no night action.

One more note:
This game should not be construed as support for the Trump administration. I simply read an article about the atmosphere of paranoia in the White House as Mueller closes in, with White House Staffers accusing one another of wearing a wire, and thought, "What a splendid idea for a Mafia game."
 
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RetroMG

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PLAYER LIST
1. DCPat
2. Lone_prodigy
3. Dr. Monkey
4. Devastatingly Strange
5. Sparks
6. Muffin
7. Android Sophia
8. Sawneeks
9. Royal_Flush
10. Fran

Day Phase Begins:
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RetroMG

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Dawn breaks in the Oval Office.

The motley crew gathers. Donald is still in the panic room, flipping between Fox and Friends and Morning Joe.

It's time to get to work.

The day will end in:
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Voting will take place after the day has ended, by private message.
 

heymonkey

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pre-typed because I have to leave:

I’ve got plans tonight so I’ll be here erratically, but I wanted to know if the order of actions was as the roles were listed above. This is my first time playing ONUW so I just want to be sure how to weigh what I know.


Also we are all terrible people. :( Good luck! No matter who wins, everyone loses.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
My sleep rythm is completely bonkers. I stayed up a night a while ago and now I woke up at 7pm. At least that means I'm here for game start.

the unfortunate thing about this game is I can't tell if you're hinting at claiming Insomniac or if you actually stayed up way too late.

I'm doing pretty great. How are you?

doing alright, a little cold but not too bad. also a little sad you ignored my question. :<
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
the unfortunate thing about this game is I can't tell if you're hinting at claiming Insomniac or if you actually stayed up way too late.
Lol, I didn't think of that. No, I'm serious. You can ask the cat that is holding me hostage.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
wait, for how many of you is this your first ONUW?

This is actually my first ONUW, so I wasn't sure if it's a good idea to answer the question or not. Glad to know it makes you sad tho!

WOW RUDE

so, ONUW is much more of a puzzle solving game with social deception/deduction as a secondary. Since we only vote once and with the amount of role switching happening it's better to get people to claim and say what they did in order to figure out who is lying, since the Wolf/Wolves need to fake claim and fight against someone. There is merit here for Town to lie though when claiming, since if you were a Robber and claimed to steal someone's card when you actually didn't it would force them to claim what they were since they believe they are no longer that card anymore. If you get lucky, that person was actually a Wolf and is still a Wolf, making it easier to lynch and win. If they were Town? Well, that's one person to not worry about.

and then of course the Tanner fucks everything up and wants to get lynched, but that's the basics of it.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
and that's just one example, but the end goal is to figure out where the Wolf/Wolves card(s) are since it's highly possible they got moved around or they even started in the middle.
 
Okay. First timer aswell.

Where do we start? Why did you ask to claim the ones that you asked Sawneeks?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I usually start with claims or getting people talking

and to go against everything i've just said, i won't answer that last question DC. not yet, anyway. i want their answers first
 

heymonkey

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I am the Seer. I checked someone i thought was least likely to get fussed with - DCPat. He was a werewolf.

How's that for discussion?
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
I am the Seer. I checked someone i thought was least likely to get fussed with - DCPat. He was a werewolf.

How's that for discussion?
Interesting. Wonder how DCPat answers that.

Also, why did you look there instead of the middle?
 

heymonkey

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Staff member
As I said, I chose someone I thought was least likely to be messed with. Like I'd bet someone messed with Sawneeks because she's infamous.
 

Franconp

Frank
Hi everyone!

It's been a hell of a day today and I'm really tired. I won't be much around today. At least not my usual participation. I will try to help more tomorrow.

I will just say that I didn't do much last night.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
That's what I was thinking as well, that Sawneeks was the Seer, Troublemaker, or Robber.
you guys ruin my fun. :u

i'm one of those things, yes.

currently still waiting on a better claim from Fran and a claim from Sophia. Monkey already claimed Seer.
 

Android Sophia

Miss Congeniality
you guys ruin my fun. :u

i'm one of those things, yes.

currently still waiting on a better claim from Fran and a claim from Sophia. Monkey already claimed Seer.

"didn't do much" seems to imply that Fran is one of the four roles without an explicit night action. The Insomniac, the Hunter, the Villager, and the Tanner.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
"didn't do much" seems to imply that Fran is one of the four roles without an explicit night action. The Insomniac, the Hunter, the Villager, and the Tanner.
Yup, and it's still not a hard claim which gives him 4 options. I want hard claims, not vague hints.

why are you giving him an out?
 
I am the Seer. I checked someone i thought was least likely to get fussed with - DCPat. He was a werewolf.

How's that for discussion?

Wow ok, that's a bold move. Hope it works out for you and seer doesn't come out, is in the middle. If it isn't I'd like seer to speak up asap.

I read up on this type of game and checked last game, isn't seer supposed to look at the middle? Like muffin asked you?
 

Franconp

Frank
I am the Seer. I checked someone i thought was least likely to get fussed with - DCPat. He was a werewolf.

How's that for discussion?

If you were a seer why didn't you targeted the cards in the middle? Knowing 2 cards is always better than one? Weird.

"didn't do much" seems to imply that Fran is one of the four roles without an explicit night action. The Insomniac, the Hunter, the Villager, and the Tanner.

Yep.

Yup, and it's still not a hard claim which gives him 4 options. I want hard claims, not vague hints.

why are you giving him an out?

You are asking too much and giving too little.
 

heymonkey

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Staff member
Retro told me I could check a person or a middle card. I already gave my reason for my choice.
 
No. You only explained why me instead of the 8 others. Not your reasoning between middle or a single person.
 
Sorry guys. Sleepy time for me. It's 1.37 am now and work will be there in the morning (and ONUW off course).
 

heymonkey

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Oh, I guess it did say two cards in the middle. I wasn't paying close enough attention, I guess. :/ regardless I wanted something likelier to stay unmolested.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Not really sure what you're implying by that? Anyhow, I'm the drunk.

Yep.


You are asking too much and giving too little.

You've done exactly the same haven't you?

:u

Because the way this game works, claiming your roles is the best way to figure out who/what got moved. Sometimes it's better to hold back and tease movement roles to get reactions to see who is hesitant to claim because the Wolves know, in the event of a mass claim, that they need to find a safe fake claim to do that won't get counterclaimed and possibly get them lynched. Trying to get people to claim early gets them to pin down a Role instead of waiting to see what's left over once more people come forward. So, seeing who is hesitant to do so can sometimes be fruitful.

since you're all being un-fun and DCPat didn't actually deny being a wolf, I'm the Troublemaker. I switched Fran and Monkey. I picked them because they are both good players and I played with them in the last game and figured why not.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
also a Seer picking a person's card and not the middle cards is fine. Usually I'd say pick 2 middles cards to look at but because we don't have a Witch to combo that off of picking a person is a great alternative. The only downside is now we have no clue what the Drunk is now.
 

Franconp

Frank
:u

Because the way this game works, claiming your roles is the best way to figure out who/what got moved. Sometimes it's better to hold back and tease movement roles to get reactions to see who is hesitant to claim because the Wolves know, in the event of a mass claim, that they need to find a safe fake claim to do that won't get counterclaimed and possibly get them lynched. Trying to get people to claim early gets them to pin down a Role instead of waiting to see what's left over once more people come forward. So, seeing who is hesitant to do so can sometimes be fruitful.

since you're all being un-fun and DCPat didn't actually deny being a wolf, I'm the Troublemaker. I switched Fran and Monkey. I picked them because they are both good players and I played with them in the last game and figured why not.

And now I'm the minion? Fuck.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
1. DCPat - ??? - Accused of being a Wolf by Monkey
2. Lone_prodigy
3. Dr. Monkey - Seer/??? - Switched with Fran by Sawneeks
4. Devastatingly Strange
5. Sparks
6. Muffin
7. Android Sophia - Drunk/??? -
8. Sawneeks - Troublemaker - Switched Fran and Monkey
9. Royal_Flush
10. Fran - ???/??? - Switched with Monkey by Sawneeks
 

Franconp

Frank
1. DCPat - ??? - Accused of being a Wolf by Monkey
2. Lone_prodigy
3. Dr. Monkey - Seer/??? - Switched with Fran by Sawneeks
4. Devastatingly Strange
5. Sparks
6. Muffin
7. Android Sophia - Drunk/??? -
8. Sawneeks - Troublemaker - Switched Fran and Monkey
9. Royal_Flush
10. Fran - ???/??? - Switched with Monkey by Sawneeks

Why didn't you added seer as my new role there?
 

Franconp

Frank
How do I sound like a minion??

If you are a minion and claim seer you can frame someone that isn't one of the wolves. If the real seer doesn't claim town would be inclined to believe you. If the real seer does claim it's your word against theirs, also you make yourself suspicious and if you are lynched the minion wins too.

Claiming that you saw a player instead of the 2 cards in the middle and also finding a wolf is suspicious. And you targeting DCPAT too. It makes sense for a minion to frame someone who wouldn't be targeted much at nigth so he wouldn't be exposing framing someone who turned wolf by another card.

Anyway it seem it doesn't matter as Sawneeks says that she swapped us.
 

heymonkey

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1. DCPat - ??? - Accused of being a Wolf by Monkey
2. Lone_prodigy - unknown
3. Dr. Monkey - Seer/??? - Switched with Fran by Sawneeks - so now unknown
4. Devastatingly Strange - hunter
5. Sparks - Insomniac
6. Muffin - unknown
7. Android Sophia - Drunk/??? -
8. Sawneeks - Troublemaker - Switched Fran and Monkey
9. Royal_Flush - unknown
10. Fran - ???/??? - Switched with Monkey by Sawneeks

Are these our current claims? Updated within the earlier post/quote.

Fran: I didn't get the part about the middle being two cards. If I had, I probably would have looked there.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Pretty sure she meant what role you had before the switch.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

The question is: Can I trust Sawneeks?

I don't see why you wouldn't??? No one has counterclaimed me. :x

If you are a minion and claim seer you can frame someone that isn't one of the wolves. If the real seer doesn't claim town would be inclined to believe you. If the real seer does claim it's your word against theirs, also you make yourself suspicious and if you are lynched the minion wins too.

Claiming that you saw a player instead of the 2 cards in the middle and also finding a wolf is suspicious. And you targeting DCPAT too. It makes sense for a minion to frame someone who wouldn't be targeted much at nigth so he wouldn't be exposing framing someone who turned wolf by another card.

Anyway it seem it doesn't matter as Sawneeks says that she swapped us.

And frankly I do agree with all of this.

At the moment DCPat is our best bet, however we still have all the other actions to go through that may confirm/deny Monkey's claim. I like to lynch in these games based off of two roles working together instead of just one because of the Minion but, so far, I see no reason not to trust Monkey's claim or that DCPat isn't a potential Wolf. The one big worry if Monkey is telling the truth is that a Robber stole DCPat's card and won't say, meaning we're essentially shit out of luck.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Updated if Monkey is still standing by her claim.

1. DCPat - ??? - Accused of being a Wolf by Monkey
2. Lone_prodigy - unknown
3. Dr. Monkey - Seer/??? - Switched with Fran by Sawneeks - so now unknown
4. Devastatingly Strange - hunter
5. Sparks - Insomniac/??? - still Insomniac?
6. Muffin - unknown
7. Android Sophia - Drunk/??? - Unsure what card was taken
8. Sawneeks - Troublemaker - Switched Fran and Monkey
9. Royal_Flush - unknown
10. Fran - ???/Seer - Switched with Monkey by Sawneeks
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
The one big worry if Monkey is telling the truth is that a Robber stole DCPat's card and won't say, meaning we're essentially shit out of luck.
I can dispell that worry, as I'm the robber. I stole from Monkey.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
Actually it still doesn't since you could be lying about that.

Why Monkey? Why didn't you claim earlier?
You asked several people for their roles, didn't wanna get in the way of that and see how what you're doing plays out. Then you were saying that you're one of three roles, and robber was one of them. Wanted to see if you're gonna claim my role first.
 

Flush

Poker Royalty
My dearest @Sawneeks, I'm not sure if I should believe your claim... On one hand your target choice kind of makes sense. New players for some reason rarely end up as targets for madness roles in our ONUW games, it's always the more (in)famous ones. Kind of like a "trouble" magnet, lol. Especially your three posts in the very beginning kind of rub me the wrong way. You sound more like either a Robber who wants to know what they are now than a troublemaker, or like somebody who is preparing for a yet unspecific role claim, although the latter kind of goes against the fact that you actually claimed soon after...
 

Flush

Poker Royalty
Oh, I see, Muffin is claiming Robber now, so that kind of strengthens Sawneeks' claim in my book. However, still not entirely convinced.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
You sound more like either a Robber who wants to know what they are now than a troublemaker
The Robber knows what role they got, why would they want to know what they are now? Unless they got targeted by the troublemaker.
 

Flush

Poker Royalty
The Robber knows what role they got, why would they want to know what they are now? Unless they got targeted by the troublemaker.
They do? Oh, I guess you're right. I guess I'm a bit rusty concerning the roles in ONUW... At least you all know which role I'm not.
 

Flush

Poker Royalty
Coming from this, a small observation about this game: It's very, very tame in terms of madness. There is only one possibility you can switch to a wolf aligned role and not know about it (troublemaker). Unless I missed something again. Sidenote: As wolf there are two possibilities to be unknowingly switched to Town because they could be robbed and therefore change alignment.

The above of course also holds true if you replace wolf with tanner.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
You asked several people for their roles, didn't wanna get in the way of that and see how what you're doing plays out. Then you were saying that you're one of three roles, and robber was one of them. Wanted to see if you're gonna claim my role first.

Or you're Scum and were waiting to see which one I didn't end up taking, claiming that as your own.

My dearest @Sawneeks, I'm not sure if I should believe your claim... On one hand your target choice kind of makes sense. New players for some reason rarely end up as targets for madness roles in our ONUW games, it's always the more (in)famous ones. Kind of like a "trouble" magnet, lol. Especially your three posts in the very beginning kind of rub me the wrong way. You sound more like either a Robber who wants to know what they are now than a troublemaker, or like somebody who is preparing for a yet unspecific role claim, although the latter kind of goes against the fact that you actually claimed soon after...

well hello to you too, royal

You know it's funny you say that 'trouble magnet' thing but it's looking like no one even touched me lol. I figured there were going to be roles moving/looking at me right out of the gate. :x

And do tell, what other Roleclaim could I be preparing for by calling out 3 people? You already said Robber, which has since been claimed by Muffin, and there's no other Role that moves people around outside of those two. So why would I be building a fakeclaim by calling people out that wasn't a movement role?

i'm also mildly curious why you're throwing shade at me when my role doesn't even remotely involve you. Did I catch a friend? :>

The Robber knows what role they got, why would they want to know what they are now? Unless they got targeted by the troublemaker.

So then was Monkey telling the truth about being Seer?
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
If you stole Monkey's card you would know she was Seer, so why did you ask her these questions?
What does her being Seer have to do with asking her why she targeted the way she did? Yes, I knew that she was, but I had no idea who she targeted and why. Worth asking.
 

Franconp

Frank
Everybody checked out, right?

Noone counterclaimed Sawneeks so I'm yo trust her.

I was Tanner. Have fun Monkey.
 
In my theory;

I believe Fran, Sawneeks and Muffin, but not Monkey in their starting roles. Because I think Monkey was a minion. Claim seer and pick a random person to out as werewolf, while you should be looking at the middle. Now all eyes are on me and I have a hard time defending myself. But if she got caught for her lie it doesn't really matter because now attention would be on her instead of a werewolf. Isn't it Minion 101?

I had to hope for seer to come out and counterclaim, which haven't happened. So Seer was in the middle. So now I also don't believe Muffin, who is our new minion and obviously goes along with the play.

Now
Monkey is tanner
Fran is robber
Muffin is minion.
And I'm just the sad little villager who can't defend himself
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
So I might be Tanner now (YIKES) but it looks like Muffin is confirming that I was the seer so... DCPat, I'm standing firm. You're a wolf.

Wait, or should I start lying now to try to get myself lynched? lol tanner fml
 
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