Spectator Thread Inside Muffin

The only flips that were changed are the two from today. According to Geno Jedah always flips without info.

@Fandorin you were targeted by FoD because they desperately needed attention to go elsewhere. They hit your bp before, suspected your were in [Redacted] and maybe thought you were scum.

@weemadarthur You were supposed to be Fandorin's scapegoat, so nobody would look for Jedah.

And I guess everyone knows who is holding like half of all the items now
Sorian

This reminds me, Fandorin why didn't you send Frostmourne to Stu?
 
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Hey Stu, get better soon. You got played in-game by non-town. Different forces ridiculed you, until you got, idk sulky? (I'm not sure that's the right choice of words, non native language is hard, I don't mean offense)

You were spot-on with your suspicions, but just bombarded the thread with the same thing over and over again. Calling everyone dumb hardly gets you any followers. In general we can talk about aggressions postgame. I think a calm approach would've been more fruitful. Some were willing to listen.

Sorian antagonized you pretty well. Still no one is pointing out that he's siding with Muffin because Muffin failed to copy him. All the robo nonsense came from him. I think only Wee poked against him a bit (but half-heartedly)
 
Hey Stu, get better soon. You got played in-game by non-town. Different forces ridiculed you, until you got, idk sulky? (I'm not sure that's the right choice of words, non native language is hard, I don't mean offense)

I got pissed. I could have handled people not believing me as much as it annoyed me but when I started getting some of the shit flung at me that I was. I just went "fuck this"

Calling everyone dumb hardly gets you any followers.

I wasn't calling people dumb. Gullible yes but not dumb. I wanted people to consider a world where Geno was a giant bastard (<3 Geno) with Muffin's 'confirmation' and tried multiple approaches until it came down to me repeating myself over and over (I had multiple posts with more than just my 'suspicions' but people were just skipping over them).

Even mentioned how Sorian was the first person to bring up Robo and Muffin was just allowing it all to fall in his lap basically. But all of that doesn't matter because 'mod-confirmed town'

So sorry I didn't save you @Zippedpinhead :(
 
Jedah spoilers
Fando can we talk about how you used the power? I'm not talking about the post manipulation, that power was a mess, I'm talking fake flip, like, you should've tried to confuse everyone more. Make up something, like "Lex Luthor, you are aligned with Lexcorp", make up a super crazy power and a super crazy boost, everyone will think there's yet another faction.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
You didn't do anything. You just shouldn't assume that dude is ever misguided town. Sometimes he is. But always kill him anyway.
He seemed fine while I was in there, it was once I left that he started talking about robots and Muffin and shit lol. :P

But yes, if he's alive by D3 there's no need to keep him around really, this is something I have learned now lol.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
This game is crazy, but in a funny way lol. It feels like half the players are on different scum teams.

Remember when there was only Town and the Forces of Light? It was a simpler time.

Also, I hope you get better soon Stu!
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Hope you feel better soon, Stu. You did well with your sleuthing - sorry you had to spend so much time yelling at a brick wall for your efforts.
 
(I have an appt with the Opticians today now but it's not until 4:30pm. Still feel too crap to go out but no choice so eh.)
 
Also I would appreciate being told how right or wrong I was on my road to victory posts:

Muffin -> Sorian -> Faddy -> Apop -> Fran

And did I miss any scum? At least tell me that haha.
 
The only flips that were changed are the two from today. According to Geno Jedah always flips without info.

@Fandorin you were targeted by FoD because they desperately needed attention to go elsewhere. They hid your bp before, suspected your were in [Redacted] and maybe thought you were scum.

@weemadarthur You were supposed to be Fandorin's scapegoat, so nobody would look for Jedah.

And I guess everyone knows who is holding like half of all the items now
Sorian

This reminds me, Fandorin why didn't you send Frostmourne to Stu?

TP knew I had it with me, so I didn’t want to give it straight away to him. Thought sending it to Sorian could work as a workaround way to get it to him.

Jedah spoilers
Fando can we talk about how you used the power? I'm not talking about the post manipulation, that power was a mess, I'm talking fake flip, like, you should've tried to confuse everyone more. Make up something, like "Lex Luthor, you are aligned with Lexcorp", make up a super crazy power and a super crazy boost, everyone will think there's yet another faction.

I wanted the thread to believe the fake flip as much time as possible, so molding my own role made sense to avoid hitting a villain and fake claim that was in the game. I also wanted to give confirmation to town that the FoD actually existed since they are the biggest threat right now and probably who will take this win. Having a 4th faction or giving out OP fake powers to weem wouldn’t make sense further in the end game, at least I thought so.

I see that the fake two shot forced post command might force Chuggs to come forward. I still don’t get what happened there, but Zeke caught it on.
 
What Brazil said about his role is the truth. The claimed part of his role is immunity towards a 7% ITA shot of a dead Townie, while Muffin couldn’t copy him. It just doesn’t match.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Sorian should be immediately turboed for that vote on VA, scummy as hell.

Faddy is so obviously Sorian's partner and is just projecting himself on to me/Zeke that it's hilarious lol.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
The other part wants you all to unvote, hold your shit for a moment, and let's start ripping apart some Weemadarthur posts. We had some big (and confusing) flips, and we've barely dug into new reads based on those flips. Lunch my ass for all I care---just lunch me once we rip apart some Weemadarthur posts.
Smart move by VA.....

This post was so evil holey moley
Damn, that is irrelevant. The spelling thing comes back to be a giant nothing. Also why am I lauded as a brilliant scum when I’m town. I ain’t shit as scum.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I hope they start analyzing all the jokes I made with sorian and conclude we were scum partners. And then faddy too.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Hey if scum could give me a quick heads up if they’re just going to kill me tonight so I don’t read all this for nothing that would be ace - thanks in advance.
omg lol
 
omg, Sorian is actually in the lead once with Votes.

Faddy is so obviously Sorian's partner and is just projecting himself on to me/Zeke that it's hilarious lol.

Fun fact: I suspected there was something up with them near the start of the game. They were almost tooo cordial with each other and very much agreeing with each other or at least seeming like they were a team if that makes sense?

I just didn't bring it up cause I couldn't find a way to where it wouldn't get shouted down immediately haha.
 
I doubt Sorian is going out today, but you never know. Spoilers for Sorian
His fakeclaim is Riku, town Dreamer, which makes sense flavor wise, I wonder why he didn't use it
 
Hey, why does Ezekiel rage do the truffle shuffle all the time?

Is that game related or something else? Because either way I missed something.


Also, are we fully spoiled yet?
 
I could see evil scum sorian just giving the frostmourne so he can avoid being lynched lmao.
 
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weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Frostmourne, you were very close, gave you 1 more shot.

No, the innocent child stuff is what you people made up, the role was never innocent child, it was "mod confirmed town".
Wow, stu knows you really well lol.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I have no idea what I would’ve done with one more shot, tbh. I couldn’t think of anything that would move the game along. I didn’t care who the gossip was.

And sawneeks may never sign up for another geno game.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Obviously I'm not the right person for this since I designed the game but I think it was pretty obvious that in a bastard game if scum had a copier their item would have allowed them to copy loki's role.
Might have been better with a clue. Like, labeling me a watcher instead of not, and the same with all the rest. Because making up a role that exactly mimics the result of innocent child without being innocent child and then having no real way to deduce it, well I think you may be defending this one for a while lol.
 
I have no idea what I would’ve done with one more shot, tbh. I couldn’t think of anything that would move the game along. I didn’t care who the gossip was.

And sawneeks may never sign up for another geno game.
Could've targeted chugg n2 to see what forced him to vote aeleus, Sorian did that, he can steal votes, but he's also ninja with his item, you wouldn't know that but it was worth a try
 
Might have been better with a clue. Like, labeling me a watcher instead of not, and the same with all the rest. Because making up a role that exactly mimics the result of innocent child without being innocent child and then having no real way to deduce it, well I think you may be defending this one for a while lol.
I definitely will and I am prepared for it.
 
No, the innocent child stuff is what you people made up, the role was never innocent child, it was "mod confirmed town".

I fucking told people this haha.

I even used the actual title of the role that Loki posted. "Mod-confirmed town" as evidence and was brushed off by almost everyone.

Quite frankly, I'm on Genos side against anyone who feels it was too bastard or whatever. :D
 
I definitely will and I am prepared for it.
I’m all for making up your own roles, so you’ll get no complaints from me, even if town loses.
I still questioned Muffin’s alignment after the mod confirm. It’s just too convenient to believe and town shouldn’t just write muffin off just because of that, especially in a bastard game.
 
Also Sorry @Natiko for putting you in this situation. I REALLY didn't want to but illness and all.

but you still have less baggage than me so there ya go lol.
 
I still questioned Muffin’s alignment after the mod confirm. It’s just too convenient to believe and town shouldn’t just write muffin off just because of that, especially in a bastard game.

You should have backed me up, even just a little ;-;

I used the word "bastard game" so much that people just rolled their eyes at it. Someone else doing so might have helped haha.

<3 you anyway. Sorry I was so going at you early days, I was legit not feeling great (better than today/yesterday but still bleh. It was insomnia during the first few days and made me feel ill)
 
<3 you anyway. Sorry I was so going at you early days, I was legit not feeling great (better than today/yesterday but still bleh. It was insomnia during the first few days and made me feel ill)

(^ that's why I was snarky and didn't really put in much effort. I just felt too bleh)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Obviously I'm not the right person for this since I designed the game but I think it was pretty obvious that in a bastard game if scum had a copier their item would have allowed them to copy loki's role.
I completely understood it as working this way as well.

Even if it was specifically called an Innocent Child, as I pointed out a couple pages ago in here, the Innocent Child is confirmed publicly as Town, that's their role. Sorian and others were trying to say in the thread that they would have their alignment confirmed publicly, but that's not true, the way the role always works is that the Gamerunner is going to say that they are Town, which means nothing in a Bastard game lol.
 
You should have backed me up, even just a little ;-;

I used the word "bastard game" so much that people just rolled their eyes at it. Someone else doing so might have helped haha.

<3 you anyway. Sorry I was so going at you early days, I was legit not feeling great (better than today/yesterday but still bleh. It was insomnia during the first few days and made me feel ill)
I think the day phase muffin became mod confirmed is definitely the one he’s automatically safe from lunching. It’s just how this game goes. With or without Sorian giving you shit, that train was not going to happen that day and I recognized that immediately. So I said what I needed to about it and backed off for the time being.
But if I recall correctly, i was careful to never say you were wrong about him or that he was town.

And no harm at all the first day phases.
I wonder how Muffin felt about me picking on him D2. And it was too obvious he was there the whole time D2 EOD when he claimed Megaman.
He was definitely in scum chat with Swamped lol
 
With or without Sorian giving you shit

tbf, I think without Sorian and maybe Faddy, I'd have been able to convince people. The loudest ones are the ones that can muddy the waters a bit when people start wondering "Hmm... he may be onto something"

ie Sorian brought up the robot stuff, the chip stuff, and both brought up the Innocent Child stuff.

Without that, (since I obviously suck at arguing against people), I may have been able to convince enough people.

My main regret now is not scrutinizing Sorian more. I see more scumminess from him this day phase but I should have looked into him harder even if I was sure on Muffin. My only regret.

But if I recall correctly, i was careful to never say you were wrong about him or that he was town.

That is true now that I think about it lol.

And no harm at all the first day phases.

<3 <3

I wonder how Muffin felt about me picking on him D2. And it was too obvious he was there the whole time D2 EOD when he claimed Megaman.
He was definitely in scum chat with Swamped lol

I thought this too but I had no idea how to bring it up without being shouted down haha.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Interesting.

I haven’t read a wiki in ages. It’s all over my head. And I’m not against a seriously-bastard game, I just wasn’t sure if I should expect it, and my own role sure didn’t tell me to lol.
 
Interesting.

I haven’t read a wiki in ages. It’s all over my head. And I’m not against a seriously-bastard game, I just wasn’t sure if I should expect it, and my own role sure didn’t tell me to lol.

I guess everyone after this should expect super bastard stuff next time they sign up for a Geno game haha.
 
I know this is pretty much NAI but the fact that you have an answer for every little thing just gives me scum!sorian vibes like crazy. You allllways do that when you're scum because even if you don't believe something you have enough evidence and logic planned out to make it look just fine.

Sawneeks is so so correct here.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
They shoulda seen it last day phase. I told em, I TOLD em, millenium hand and shrimp. Buggrit.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Current argument can be summed up as: it’s the Players who are lying to us in this here bastard game!

Good job paying attention to detail. Just a bit more brainstorming options needed to figure it out.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Gee look at all these normal role claims.

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Illuminati and Apo spoilers
Yes, that's the big secret of the game, there's a mason group of 5 people that are called the Illuminati, consisting of Lokiduck, Tearablepuns(now Sneeks), Fanto(Zeke now), Fandorin( Who was Jedah) and lastly Ketkat, these people couldn't mention anything about being in a secret chat or the illuminati, the Illuminati and the stone information is hidden from every flip as well. In hindsight I probably shouldn't have included Apo's power since it gives away the group, but I thought someone having info but no evidence of it would've been more fun. Apo is Gill from the SF series, the villain in lore created the Illuminati, so their goal is to eliminate them
 
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Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
If Apo were to be flipped, would the Illuminati's existence still be hidden from the flip statement or - no meme intended - would the Illuminati be confirmed?
 
If Apo were to be flipped, would the Illuminati's existence still be hidden from the flip statement or - no meme intended - would the Illuminati be confirmed?
There would be no Illuminati mention in the pm.
 
btw
She's lying; i never had the chaos emerald stolen. So, unless she had it stolen N5 (which i dont believe to be the case), she still has it :D
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I didn't read through the whole day, but what is this talk about [REDACTED]!?!!? I saw some specifically say [REDACTED] on the last page of the thread??? I'm gunna have to go look back for when that info came out lol.
god damn, that sounds like a fun ass group
It was!!!!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
GG on the Apo flip though, nicely done. Would have loved to see Sorian go instead, but any Mafia flip is a good flip, Town can't afford to go after their own here and they seem to have done a good job of avoiding that today.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also, what Geno didn't mention above there:

Loki was the only one allowed to use her own OM account for the chat. The rest of us had to log in to costume accounts lol. I identity-claimed before the game started, but eventually Fandorin and Ketkat did as well in the first couple days. Tearable I don't think claimed as himself until after I had subbed out though.

Also, I thought Tearable was Verelios at first, which was dead wrong, but I did put the correct identity-read on Ketkat before she claimed lol.
 
btw
She's lying; i never had the chaos emerald stolen. So, unless she had it stolen N5 (which i dont believe to be the case), she still has it :D
I stole the Chaos Emerald back right after giving it to you, so Neeks is really telling the truth there. I’m guessing Apop has it actually, or whoever killed me from the FoD.
 
i feel like Sorian should probably lie low during the item grab if he's smart. but then again, he'll probably go for the items b/c Hurricane Sorian
I stole the Chaos Emerald back right after giving it to you, so Neeks is really telling the truth there. I’m guessing Apop has it actually, or whoever killed me from the FoD.
Geno never told me lmao
 
Facepalm, really? I at least told Sneeks lol
lol it's all good. hoping she saved the last one at least

it's all too obvious who has the stones now that mostly everyone has character claimed. the heroes that were in the narrative of last game...
 
lol it's all good. hoping she saved the last one at least

it's all too obvious who has the stones now that mostly everyone has character claimed. the heroes that were in the narrative of last game...
I was actually very surprised you noticed that, usually my flavor is just flavor but sometimes I do want to reward a small bit the people that read it. So really good work on that
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ah ok, reading back now, so it was Apo that revealed the Illuminati's existence to the thread? How did he know about them, unless there is something in his role that I'm not seeing or something else I missed?
 
Ah ok, reading back now, so it was Apo that revealed the Illuminati's existence to the thread? How did he know about them, unless there is something in his role that I'm not seeing or something else I missed?
His flip was censored to remove all mentions of Illuminati
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Illuminati and Apo spoilers
Yes, that's the big secret of the game, there's a mason group of 5 people that are called the Illuminati, consisting of Lokiduck, Tearablepuns(now Sneeks), Fanto(Zeke now), Fandorin( Who was Jedah) and lastly Ketkat, these people couldn't mention anything about being in a secret chat or the illuminati, the Illuminati and the stone information is hidden from every flip as well. In hindsight I probably shouldn't have included Apo's power since it gives away the group, but I thought someone having info but no evidence of it would've been more fun. Apo is Gill from the SF series, the villain in lore created the Illuminati, so their goal is to eliminate them
That's a baller group.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
LMAO

How did Vincent know that? Like, I remember Rad Mobile, and I remember Sonic, but I did not remember that Sonic was in Rad Mobile, let alone before his first game came out lol.
 
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