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Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Ah man, some mod edited nin's title to Console Wars Mafia? no fun allowed :P
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
We saw a similar arrogant play a few seasons back, but this is on another level... I don't like it one bit (neither the shade thrown at our community like he's so good to us).

Who was the one that started comparing him to blarg, because I was expecting something else.
 

cabot

Why.
Seems quite Blargy to me, though instead of going a bit out of left field with noise, he's very direct and blunt.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
The more i hope he will eat dust soon :P
But i think he will survive long.
But Damn, his arrogance sure is captivating.
 

heymonkey

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Geno: what about his style exactly? So far he seems pretty focused on how many games people have played before and a wildly overarching meta that may not even apply. So I dunno, I'm still waiting for shit to happen in this. I expect tomorrow will be fun in CW when we get the end of day vote flurry.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
I think that's just obnoxious; I come to mafia games with the idea that people want to have fun, and I doubt Apollo had fun getting those kinds of comments, like he's a bad player when Corrik knows him for less than a day.
 
I understand what you're saying, I get that, it's just that I got so used to it that I don't mind it anymore. In Civil War mafia it was my first real taste of Corrik and he drove me mad.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
I think this is a spoiler-free thread, but what does everyone here think is the "unusual mechanics" in Console Wars? To see if you got close to the right answer later on :3
 

heymonkey

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I am going to need to be spoiled on this entire game immediately. I have no patience. Fuck my shit up, fam.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
With that end of day bit, I'm betting a bunch of town just get put into a third faction? I'd say maybe a scum, too, but that would be weird (but kinda cool) if they got to stay in their old faction chat.
 

heymonkey

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What I'm learning from modfing is... wow, players sure put a lot of effort into logicking up real bad conclusions.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
With that end of day bit, I'm betting a bunch of town just get put into a third faction? I'd say maybe a scum, too, but that would be weird (but kinda cool) if they got to stay in their old faction chat.
Hmmmm...

What I'm learning from modfing is... wow, players sure put a lot of effort into logicking up real bad conclusions.

Being in a spec chat is already enough to see that people go around the truth
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
With that end of day bit, I'm betting a bunch of town just get put into a third faction? I'd say maybe a scum, too, but that would be weird (but kinda cool) if they got to stay in their old faction chat.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... :D

I want to see if Town will call out people who voted for Nomad.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
omg, Bronx :D

Between the thread and the scum chat, i've seen various theories about the game's design and a few were pretty close.

Tearable is a promising player, i hope I get to see him more!
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, I think he's got some potential.

I am sad that they killed off my LARRY but potentially, depending on how things go n1, that could be the best outcome for town over there in Buffy. we'll see.
 

heymonkey

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HI RAC

I'M SORRY YOU'RE DEAD

BUT WE'RE GONNA PARTY LIKE IT'S THE APOCALYPSE OVER HERE. I mean, eventually, when spec chat picks up.
 

rac

whatever
actually the whole fact i got voted out after dcpat soft claimed is p damned awful

why wouldnt i put as much pressure on dcpat as i could to get the claim out of him, instead i basically threw myself under a buss to try and help him
 

cabot

Why.
that first day phase was kind of poor from town's perspective. Quite a lot of people got by without any real push, and others were going after people for pretty dubious reasons.


DCPat was the best bet out of the leading candidates.
 
that first day phase was kind of poor from town's perspective. Quite a lot of people got by without any real push, and others were going after people for pretty dubious reasons.


DCPat was the best bet out of the leading candidates.
Yeah, I was extremely disappointed with the effort day 1 in my game. People didn't seem to care too much.
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, I was extremely disappointed with the effort day 1 in my game. People didn't seem to care too much.
The day phases in the two games were totally different.

Yeah, cabot, people were missing tons of things, big screaming obvious things. As ever, there's a huge focus on meta and people make assumptions. But I was stoked at the way things got rolling. I like a good shitpost phase now and again but they started working at least. I'm hoping that night actions set off a chain reaction that makes some people reassess - but it'll depend on what finally gets decided and if people wanna keep tunneling.
 

rac

whatever
cabot anyway you could link some posts that people were missing without spoiling?

really want to get better in what to look at and analyzing people's posts
 

cabot

Why.
Well my main issues were the meta argument against gog and letting a lot of low posters just slide by. Meta arguments for someone who has played a single game is just mad.

Also, there were a good group of players who barely posted anything, and they were never considered to be serious lynch contenders. Instead it was rac, who was pretty solid. Gog who was maybe a bit too restrained for my taste, though present and trying to engage, and DCPat.


DCPat's behaviour is probably the one of the three I'd have considered. He was certainly reading most scummy to me. I don't like votes to sit randomly out there, so I would've probably voted for him, wasn't particularly convinced of his soft claim.


think about how much power LP had in that day phase. What had he done up until the end? almost nothing.
 

cabot

Why.
you may have, but dcpat was being super restrained and nervous and he was only really defending himself and doing little else.


Both are pretty scummy behaviours.


Did he not threaten town with his own lynch? I hate that as well.
 
I think that's just obnoxious; I come to mafia games with the idea that people want to have fun, and I doubt Apollo had fun getting those kinds of comments, like he's a bad player when Corrik knows him for less than a day.
Care to elaborate on this btw?
 

heymonkey

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Care to elaborate on this btw?

I mean, you basically called him ignorant based on level of experience. While that can be strategy, it's not the kind of thing that is standard in our community, which tends to be a little more cognizant of the actual humans involved in the game as humans, not game pieces.
 

heymonkey

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well i used meta when arguing for dcpat as well

Not to defend meta, but to defend meta, DCPat had played two games to Gog's one and he brought up that, yeah, he did stay cool in Werewolf even with a red check. I don't know what happened to him out there; he just melted. Or to put it a different way, Sawneek's tunnel on Gog was limited and didn't allow for anything but really the very first observation.

But missing that a few people just disappeared too was kind of mindboggling. Terraforce and Verelios disappeared, for one, and so did Stan, and while that's standard for Stan, as usual, people focused on whomever was making noise at the time rather than looking at bigger pictures, which allowed LP to sail in and kind of play kingmaker. It'll be interesting to see what happens d2.
 
I mean, you basically called him ignorant based on level of experience. While that can be strategy, it's not the kind of thing that is standard in our community, which tends to be a little more cognizant of the actual humans involved in the game as humans, not game pieces.
Trying to pressure a player into slipping up if scum. Seems like a viable strategy to me.
 

rac

whatever
yeah i was really confused with terra

felt like maybe he was switching up his play to try and fit in
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Trying to pressure a player into slipping up if scum. Seems like a viable strategy to me.

It's not a good strategy when you pressure a player to the point they don't feel like playing anymore. More than a game to win, this is a group of people trying to enjoy themselves.

Minutes before I posted that, I talked with Apollo and he was very upset. At least 3 times I saw you downplaying a player's skill because of their experience. That's what I mean when I said that people were not having fun with your comments about them.
 
It's not a good strategy when you pressure a player to the point they don't feel like playing anymore. More than a game to win, this is a group of people trying to enjoy themselves.

Minutes before I posted that, I talked with Apollo and he was very upset. At least 3 times I saw you downplaying a player's skill because of their experience. That's what I mean when I said that people were not having fun with your comments about them.
If someone doesn't want to play because someone pressured them very lightly then I think that is a personality issue, in my opinion.

And, if that is a belief shared by your community I will simply not play here anymore. If you cannot pressure people without them being upset, they are too emotional. It is a game. I can respect some people just want to have a powwow and get too emotional with a highly competitive player. If that's the case, I can simply not participate here. Not a big deal.


Anyways, I am interested to see how many of my reads were right day 1. I had Comrade and salva as town (salva as town vanilla).

Ex machina I had as town also.

Have to relook my scum reads but I know jubjub was one I had as scum.
 

heymonkey

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Part of playing is understanding the other players. That it's more than just move and countermove. And I would appreciate it if you could do that in this spectator thread without continuing to insult people.
 

heymonkey

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And y'know, generally - more than just you, Corrim - I have to say I am sick to death of people using "competitive" as a reason to discard the humanity of others in gaming. It's a tired excuse for people not being willing to step up and understand community efforts. There's competitive and then there's simply not giving a shit.
 
And y'know, generally - more than just you, Corrim - I have to say I am sick to death of people using "competitive" as a reason to discard the humanity of others in gaming. It's a tired excuse for people not being willing to step up and understand community efforts. There's competitive and then there's simply not giving a shit.
I do not know what you are talking about. Seriously not an ounce of it makes sense. I joined here not to argue but to spectate the ongoing game. You are throwing out nonsense. I am not responding to it anymore. Have a good day.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
If someone doesn't want to play because someone pressured them very lightly then I think that is a personality issue, in my opinion.

I can just as well say that thinking that that is "pressuring something very lightly" is a personality issue. That shows you are not willing to listen to the voices of this community, that are different from the one you came.
Even after I said that Apollo was upset by what you said, all you had to answer was that he was "too emotional", with an air of superiority, and that's not the kind of behavior that we want to foster here.
 
I can just as well say that thinking that that is "pressuring something very lightly" is a personality issue. That shows you are not willing to listen to the voices of this community, that are different from the one you came.
Even after I said that Apollo was upset by what you said, all you had to answer was that he was "too emotional", with an air of superiority, and that's not the kind of behavior that we want to foster here.
I have already said I will not play here anymore. I do not know what you are trying to accomplish here.
 
Lol corrik left the community as quickly as he came.
It doesn't matter. I play mafia enough places as is. Just wanted to try it out here to see how my reads were on people I had no experience with. I mean, I was accused of insulting people for asking about doctors being able to self-save here for good sakes. It is clear everything is considered insulting here for some reason.

All in all I would give myself a B in the game. I drew a nightshot as Town Vanilla which is a huge plus. Tried to provide content to draw reads on players and also so far my reads were decent (though that doesn't mean much for overall reads, though I only had one relatively low activity day to make them). As Town Vanilla I would have liked to have forced more information from the game to make clearer reads more readily apparent to the game or have gotten a scum to slip up.
 

RetroMG

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That is enough, all of you. There is no need to continue arguing about this. Corrim's style of aggressive play has clearly upset people, and Corrim himself has acknowledged that he has no intention of playing further with us. The matter is settled. Let's drop it.

If it continues, I will start removing people from spec.
 
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It doesn't matter. I play mafia enough places as is. Just wanted to try it out here to see how my reads were on people I had no experience with. I mean, I was accused of insulting people for asking about doctors being able to self-save here for good sakes. It is clear everything is considered insulting here for some reason.

All in all I would give myself a B in the game. I drew a nightshot as Town Vanilla which is a huge plus. Tried to provide content to draw reads on players and also so far my reads were decent (though that doesn't mean much for overall reads, though I only had one relatively low activity day to make them). As Town Vanilla I would have liked to have forced more information from the game to make clearer reads more readily apparent to the game or have gotten a scum to slip up.
What else besides Gamefaqs? I'm kinda curious.
 
Man this console wars mafia game is like it handpicked the least active players ever. Probably impossible for town to win due to activity.
 

rac

whatever
definitely think cabot had something to do with my lunch

i need a recount or something
 

nin1000

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Man this console wars mafia game is like it handpicked the least active players ever. Probably impossible for town to win due to activity.

Haha, thats indeed true but then again it makes my work so much easier :p.
 

rac

whatever
i never felt this disappointed being dead before

is this what it's like getting lynched on day one?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Hi everyone.

I have successfully skimmed both games. My uninformed opinions are Console Wars feels like a lesser game with not a lot going on. I guess Nintendo is the SK. I don't have much of a read since I don't think I have played with very many people in that game (and 2 are dead RIP Nomad and Salva)

Buffy feels more familiar. Interesting day 1. But Town kind of just fell into the Rac lynch with little reasoning. I have some thoughts about scum but I will wait until the night flips so I don't look like an idiot.
 
Hi everyone.

I have successfully skimmed both games. My uninformed opinions are Console Wars feels like a lesser game with not a lot going on. I guess Nintendo is the SK. I don't have much of a read since I don't think I have played with very many people in that game (and 2 are dead RIP Nomad and Salva)

Buffy feels more familiar. Interesting day 1. But Town kind of just fell into the Rac lynch with little reasoning. I have some thoughts about scum but I will wait until the night flips so I don't look like an idiot.
I agree a lot. My pride was hurt a lot to see game with me in it outactivitied by another game.

Nintendo being SK to me makes a lot of sense. I have considered a cult also.

It is extremely hard to balance a cult though, without a scum team let alone with one.
 
Also I feel flux and exmachina have to be town. Exmachina had an air of sincerity around him day 1. If he is scum, then heaven help me I got fooled on him. Flux I kind of think just has to be town for town to have a chance, and if he is scum, why put in the effort he has as scum to look town when it is far and away more than what most of town has done itself anyways.
 
So I played Berserk and as scum I was super careful what to post and over thought everything. With this game and my role I at least wanted to generate some discussion around me and my inexperience combined with that idea is basically what went wrong.

About the soft claim, I'm pretty sure I would have died without it and I couldn't be there to defend. Plus I kinda hoped for a doctor, so I could've had massive info. Ive been visited by multiple players, but I can't tell who off course.

And I honestly think people followed the nerrative against me to easy. I can't be that bad as scum can I?
 

rac

whatever
im sure 3 votes isn't enough to claim

it also sucks for me cause i was trying my best to help you
 

heymonkey

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rac there must have been some issue with the numbers I pulled before because they were way off but damn you were still too involved for this coaster business. Are you posting in invisible mode?? Is everyone very stoned?
 

rac

whatever
yeah 144 seemed crazy to me

but its kinda frustrating hearing that i was a coaster, i dunno i just dont see it
 

rac

whatever
lets just put it this way
two people were below 10 posts
the person i was voting for only came back because i voted for them
people went mia at days end
and then there are people that gave 0 reasoning to their votes
 

rac

whatever
So, thought it was rac choosing an easy target to vote on D1 and stick with it the whole dayphase, appearing like a solving townie but not actually being one.

what achors?

what about all the people that stuck to pat?
way earlier than me too
my vote is basically a direct response to it
 

heymonkey

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yeah 144 seemed crazy to me

but its kinda frustrating hearing that i was a coaster, i dunno i just dont see it
Yeah, the forum must have buried at me. Regardless I agree with you. There were people literally barely there.

But don't fret, friend. Now you get to hang out with us and watch all these folks be real WRONG.
 
The problem with soft claiming as town is there is a lot more chances scum picks up on it than each individual town member. Maybe some town does but town cannot freely discuss that outside the game. If just one scum player picks up on it, they all know and can plan accordingly. That is why as town I try to point out openly all softclaims to the game so everyone is aware of it.
 

rac

whatever
plus you saw what happened in beserk when the doctor had to claim

you were dead the moment you did it
 

rac

whatever
Yeah, the forum must have buried at me. Regardless I agree with you. There were people literally barely there.

But don't fret, friend. Now you get to hang out with us and watch all these folks be real WRONG.

i don't think i can read arguments about how i was a coaster anymore

this sucks, i suck
 

rac

whatever
btw when you said you messaged me monkey i was half hoping that you were going to tell me that i was gonna come back as a vampire so i could murder everyone
 
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