Spectator Thread Bunker 4352's Surveillance Room

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Absolutely nothing to apologize for. In fact your play might be the some of the most successful mafia gambits for a while. Most of the time it ends up with mafia sitting back and just hoping town eats itself. You made us screw ourselves.

When was the last time in any game have the scummies actively done anything? It is few and far between. Part of the reason I believed you were town over melon despite my scepticism.
I will pat myself on the back for that gambit in general, yes lol. I'm just sorry about the way it went down. I figured when I used my power, that was going to be my best gambit to get Town to believe it, with a logical role claim and a D1 breadcrumb.

None of us in Scum chat expected it to go that well though lol. The fact that people bought it so easily was amazing. It didn't matter that they were likely going to want me on D6, I got us two straight mislynches on some pretty good Town players.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hey, I gave actual roles after that joke!

I'm hoping for one of them finally being used. It could be quite fun.
Eh, I still didn't trust those roles either, though they were pretty good in hindsight.

I think Malus will use that one he wanted when he does the Janitor kill at least.

Also, could you spoiler tag the roles of the townies who haven't claimed yet?

Verelios, Fireblend, Stan
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh, and for anyone wondering why the hell we killed Blarg on N2, here's the story:

So, Nin is a Tracker. On N1, he decided he wanted to Track Blarg. We found out that Blarg targeted Faddy on N1. Now, for those who remember, on D2, Blarg dramatically roleplayed a scenario where he killed Faddy, and he also made a post about Faddy going to the Dining Room at night. This led Ketkat to make a note in Scum Chat that perhaps Blarg was a room tracker of some sort, where he only finds out what room people went to instead of what player they targeted.

Now is where it gets hot.

So, I received a Bulletproof shot on N1. I had no idea who the fuck would give this to me, other than maybe Faddy. Faddy had his weird role claim on D1 that seemed like he was hiding something, maybe that he was a protector of sorts, giving out Bulletproof shots. Of course he would target me.

Now, you may all remember that Splinter was a Room Switcher. So, on N1, I was stuck in a room with Terraforce, who had just claimed Cop. There was only one other person in the room with us, Sparkster. I was worried that maybe Terra could only check people in the same room as him (it was N1). So, Splinter offered to switch me to another room, how about the Dining Room, where only Poltergust and Zipped were, and we killed Zipped.

So, piecing all of this info together, I surmised that perhaps Blarg tracked Faddy to the Dining Room, where Faddy would have needed to go to give me a Bulletproof shot because that is the room that Splinter switched me to!

Therefore, we decided to kill Blargonaut and see if we were right about his role, while Tracking Faddy to see if we could find another target of his and confirm that he is the protector!

Of course, none of this was true at all, but it was a hell of a theory.

So that's the story of how Blargonaut died.
 

Franconp

Frank
Eh, I still didn't trust those roles either, though they were pretty good in hindsight.

I think Malus will use that one he wanted when he does the Janitor kill at least.

I don't know if it will work that well when he couldn't made any janitor kill so far.

I just want them to use the medium. It could be really fun.

Also, could you spoiler tag the roles of the townies who haven't claimed yet?

Verelios, Fireblend, Stan

Verelios: He can change a player to a random room. So it's useless.
Fireblend: He is a poison doctor. As there is no poisoner his role is garbage.
Stan: Can take the vote from a player and give it to someone else, so a player would gain a double vote and another would be unable to vote. 3-shots. And he still haven't used it. Don't have a clue why.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I don't know if it will work that well when he couldn't made any janitor kill so far.

I just want them to use the medium. It could be really fun.

Also, could you spoiler tag the roles of the townies who haven't claimed yet?



Verelios: He can change a player to a random room. So it's useless.
Fireblend: He is a poison doctor. As there is no poisoner his role is garbage.
Stan: Can take the vote from a player and give it to someone else, so a player would gain a double vote and another would be unable to vote. 3-shots. And he still haven't used it. Don't have a clue why.
Yeah, I think Nin is just going to use his Tracker claim since that's not inherently a scummy role. Ketkat though will probably turn to that list if she has to, but she'll need to put on quite the performance if she wants to pretend she's a Medium now lol.

And then as for the other Town roles, I suppose Stan hasn't seemed sure about any of these lynches yet really, so maybe that's why he's holding on to his shots?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh, and before I forget, Nin's "random.org" vote today is probably one of the funniest things I've seen in a Mafia game so far.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I am half sorry. And for the record, Splinter is the one who ok'd my idea to put it on you in Scum Chat. You will see that I explicitly said I had never thought to do it to you because it would be too mean. But then you started scum reading me, and Splinter said it was ok, so I did it.

How did your own medicine taste though? <3

Did he now? Boyfiend has some explaining to do. Because that's not his story.

I'm honestly thought it was hilarious turnabout and completely deserved. You've made an adorable enemy today Fanto <3
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
for what it's worth.

You were far better than me when I was scum before. Far better. (I was rooting for you btw :P )

I have been ^_^, you did well~
Haha, thanks! I felt the best on D1 and D4, but there were some dark times there. Being Scum is very stressful, for me at least. I couldn't keep up the act past D1 very well at all, it was really just my hilarious role and my fake breadcrumb that saved me I think.

And yeah, I saw you commented in here on that post I made with all the gifs this morning Stu lol, I had a lot of fun with that one. I was thinking I wasn't going to post anymore today at all, then I came up with that one and was pretty proud of it lol.

Did he now? Boyfiend has some explaining to do. Because that's not his story.

I'm honestly thought it was hilarious turnabout and completely deserved. You've made an adorable enemy today Fanto <3
I will quote directly from Scum Chat on N2 (of course I was role blocked here by Kalor, and I did make the decision on my own to do it on N3, but still, here's the proof):

Fantomas said:
As for my check here, had Melon not started Scum reading me for no reason, I never would have considered putting a fake red check on her after what she did to Splinter in GoT
Ketkat said:
I think that fake red checking Melon might be a little too mean, so I'm leaning towards Kalor just for that reason.
Fantomas said:
And yeah, it would be really mean to fake red check Melon
*Splinter said:
Kinda think melon would be a better target for the red check. Let's me pivot off of voting you for a phase at least
Fantomas said:
If you're down to red check Melon, then I am 100% down to red check Melon.
*Splinter said:
She might murder me, but it's the sensible play
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I will quote directly from Scum Chat on N2 (of course I was role blocked here by Kalor, and I did make the decision on my own to do it on N3, but still, here's the proof):


He's dead.

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You played very well for your first scum game and second game overall, Fanto. I look forward to playing with you again :)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
You played very well for your first scum game and second game overall, Fanto. I look forward to playing with you again :)
Aww, thanks!

And yes, I definitely want to play with you again. Maybe next time we'll be on Scum together instead and we'll figure out a way to get Splinter lynched. ;)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum night scheming so far:

Nin has checked in, he figures himself and Stan will have heat on them for their votes. He thinks he can defend because of his previous vote record on me. He also thinks Fireblend could be a suspect.

He wants to use his Track on Stan tonight, he probably wants to get the last people who haven't claimed yet. I would personally be saying to Track CoolestSpot to see who he tries to "roleblock" with his "gift" from LP, so I hope Malus or Ketkat bring that up.

Otherwise he liked my goodbye post and then praised me a bit lol. <3
 

cabot

Why.
Nin has been pretty bad the past few day phases.


Going all in on fanto when he wasn't in trouble and for little reason then suddenly shifting this day phase.

Im sure it'll be completely ignored
 
Nah, with Fanto's flip town has a decent chance now.

LP is an almost safe mislynch, unless he comes out as neutral and everyone feels like leaving him alive.

The rest of the scum team all got suspicion on them and aren't very influential on the game.

I don't know how I would've evaluated nin's play, because it's pretty random when he's town most of the time. But that surefire Fanto is 100% scum accusation was something he rarely engages in (even if he didn't pull through). How was the communication in scum chat? Was nin told to lay off the bussing? This back and forth looks like he was indecisive.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Pretty much all of nin v fanto was planned in advance. Nin actually seems to be pretty well in control of his own meta here.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
How was the communication in scum chat? Was nin told to lay off the bussing? This back and forth looks like he was indecisive.
Communication in Scum Chat in general was really good I thought, but I don't have anything else to compare it to really. We always worked everything out at night, and there were plenty of times during the day where we were discussing things too.

As for Nin specifically, he's mostly playing how he wants to play. I never asked him to start or stop bussing me, but he obviously knew when I was starting to feel uncomfortable about it and not sure how to reply to him, and that's when we'd kind of script out our interactions together in Scum Chat first.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
As for an update on the Scum Night Scheming so far:

All three seem to have decided to use Malus's Janitor Shot on Verelios for their kill tonight. Please pay attention to the Flavor Text for Verelios' kill if they do this, I may have asked Fran to have some fun with that because of our little thing haha.

Nin is going to Track Stan or Fire, probably Stan.

Malus is worried about being roleblocked by CoolestSpot. Luckily they actually have nothing to worry about with their kills anymore.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh and Nin is actually worried that there is a real bomber, and he thinks it might be Stan lol.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I think this is still scums game. There's too many town that I could see people scum reading and I think that's going to be what ends up happening.

By the way Fanto, thanks for trying to get me killed with the "He didn't vote town because he's scum that's trying to look more town" argument. I'm currently two for two in games where people have tried to use that.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think this is still scums game. There's too many town that I could see people scum reading and I think that's going to be what ends up happening.

By the way Fanto, thanks for trying to get me killed with the "He didn't vote town because he's scum that's trying to look more town" argument. I'm currently two for two in games where people have tried to use that.
Yeah, I made a note in Scum Chat before I died about just that. There are a lot of people that can be painted as scummy still, so the mislynch potential is still pretty high.

And lol, yeah, you handled that all really well I thought. I got scared and had to back down.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'd almost want to say to do it to the Quarters just to make Poltergust think he was right about his original bomber theory lol.
 

Franconp

Frank
I'd almost want to say to do it to the Quarters just to make Poltergust think he was right about his original bomber theory lol.

I thought about that but that would mean that I would have to change the default room. Too much work for a useless mechanic.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I thought about that but that would mean that I would have to change the default room. Too much work for a useless mechanic.
Is this a reference to when I said in Scum Chat that you probably weren't going to keep track of all the secret votes to reveal them at EoD because it would be too much work? Lol
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If I were Polter and I wanted to keep the Bomber theory alive, I would come in hot with a theory about how the Bomber is actually a JoaT that can only operate on nights when the timer ticks down, and that the Janitor kill on Vere was their second ability.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Oh god damn you Fran, you gave me a worthless role!

I would've went hard on Malus and Ketkat today, relegated Fireblend and Nin to maybe scum, but was sure the remaining scum was there after yesterday's lynch. I was dead at that early bus attempt
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
VERELIOS, YOU'RE HERE!!!!!

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You are my Town MVP! Well done! I hope you didn't mind me messing around with you a bit on my last day there lol!
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I'll never forget #Three-way-lynchtober

I was so sure you and Faddy were ride till they die that it was shocking when he flipped scum. That was some good maneuvering.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I honestly thought I was done for on D5 lol, I was amazed that people thought Faddy was more likely than me to be Scum there.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lol, perfect.

This should give Scum the info that LP's items do nothing when they find out Coolest tried to block Malus.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Vere had a spot on scum read on Fanto the first night we chatted. Should of believed you. I’m not surprised Vere died because he seemed like the closest to figuring this game out.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
My man Chugger, how's psuedo death treating you?

I stopped dying from sickness a few days ago so that was cool, but my school shit picked up like crazy so it's probably good that I went ahead and replaced out.

Honestly it's kind of weird seeing someone play the role you had but do stuff completely differently from how you would of handled it. Not trying to throw DC under the bus or anything because he's doing alright, but he's clearly reading this game differently from how I was.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
DC is doing some interesting things. Ketkat for instance is someone that made me wary as hell, and now I'm wondering what they spoke about in chat.
There was a moment yesterday where Ketkat posted and waffled about LP where I had to hold myself back from just saying "you're scum" because I felt it would detract from the lynch but kept feeling it more strongly, especially when she hammered Fantomas at the last second. Not sure how DC sees Ket now.
 
I know this is meta as hell but Ketkat feels much more differently than what I've seen from her town play so I'd be wary as hell with her.

When I posted my prediction for scum, I was very close to putting her on the list ironically lol.

I would also hope someone goes after Nin for his going hard at Fanto and then 'randomizing' his vote between Fanto and LP.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'll be interested to see if people can work out what happened with the Scum votes yesterday.

Nin's is easily the scummiest, but it's almost too scummy. I wonder if people will call out how Malus and Ketkat have been holding their votes until really close to the end the last couple days though.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I would probably have gone after Malus at this point. This game has gone on long enough that he should of started being more active right now if it was really just newbie jitters

I’m going to hard start using Occams Razor next time I play. People overthink the hell out of this game sometimes
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Remember that time it was mentioned in a game where I was a Doctor but was still lynched due to being tracked and switched the same night?

Good times.

Oh god, yeah that was some absolute nonsense. The luck of scum to make that play the same night Vere tracked you.
 

Franconp

Frank
I’d normally hate to bring back old arguments, but the nature of Vere’s killing leads me to believe that scum was in the dining room when it happened. The timing with the bomb seems too coincidental to me, and since we still don’t have an explanation for what happened N3 I’m willing to bet that the bomb is what killed him.

Polter won't let this go, right?
 

cabot

Why.
You've corrupted him.

In his defense, it wouldn't be a real conspiracy theory if he didn't try to find ways to link it to events despite overwhelming evidence against the theory.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh, and as for an update on Scum Chat:

Malus is considering using the Coroner fake claim that Fran gave to us.

The "real" fake claims that he gave us were: Loved, Switcher, Medium, Coroner, and Vanilla.

Nin is planning to just use his real role of Tracker as a claim if he needs it, still not sure what Ketkat will do. Her real role was the Secret Vote, but that probably isn't going to fly as a role claim for her if she needs one.

Other than that, Nin and Malus are talking about trying to paint a world where LP, CoolestSpot, and Fireblend are the remaining Scum team.
 

Franconp

Frank
I mean, if the bomb isn’t what killed Vere, then what did it do other than block off another room? I just don’t buy the bomb being devastating enough to permanently close off a room without causing any collateral damage

What bomb?!!! I never said anything about a bomb.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ha, there it is.

Malus has posted in Scum Chat wondering how the hell his Janitor Kill went off if CoolestSpot roleblocked him. Now just put it all together, friends: LP's items are useless!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I am never going to forget Polter's bomb theory lol, this is the best stuff.
Poltergust said:
So yeah, the 5/5 split was a good idea.
I wonder when he's going to question why I was always talking to him about this stuff. Could it be that I wanted the thread to get derailed with something that was, from my scummy point of view, 90% likely to be nonsense?
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
LP has been killing it this game with the reads and observations. Why I pegged him as likely anti-town so early.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
LP has been killing it this game with the reads and observations.
I was saying this in Scum Chat on like D2. I remember there was also a time where his first post of the day was calling out like half the Scum Team for being scummy for really good reasons. He doesn't post a lot, but he has been playing really good. It's why we tried to kill him so early lol, look at him now.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum Scheming:

Malus is wondering whether him dying and people seeing he's a Janitor could cast a bad light on Coolest and/or LP here because of the roleblock claim.

Nin says that in a worst case scenario, he could lie and say that he tracked Malus to Verelios last night.

Neither seem to have put together what the roleblock not working means about LP's role though, or at least they aren't saying it.

Ketkat hasn't checked in yet.
 
"I wanted LP more than Fantomas that day"

"I used rng to decide my vote"

Nin should be top of peoples scum list for that tbh
 

cabot

Why.
nin is there for the taking really, febe has started on him at least.

malus should also have some shade thrown, since he's sort of just rose to prominence when he had to.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lol, finally people are stopping to actually look at Nin for a second here haha. He's been getting away with so much this game, it's been so funny to me.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If I remember right, there is a big red flag that someone could find on D2
where Nin was obviously trying to protect me by not voting for me even though he was saying I was Scum, and instead he voted for the same person I did with no reason given.
I remember saying in Scum Chat how bad he would look for that if I flipped, but I honestly don't know if anyone on Town has been re-reading old days at all.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Malus, lol yes! Go for it! Point out how all he does is talk about rooms and bombs, no scum hunting, because he's Scum! Right!? Duh!!!

Vote: Poltergust
 
If I remember right, there is a big red flag that someone could find on D2
where Nin was obviously trying to protect me by not voting for me even though he was saying I was Scum, and instead he voted for the same person I did with no reason given.
I remember saying in Scum Chat how bad he would look for that if I flipped, but I honestly don't know if anyone on Town has been re-reading old days at all.

Yeah, I'd probably be reading back on him and his vote record about now and would probably spot this. First thing I tend to do before/at the start if each day until I'm dead is look back at votes and see if anything looks off (and if nothing does, I tend to let my gut speaks and keep an eye on whoever my gut tells me too)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
LP is the Bomber now lol.

I seriously love Polter so much, I think he's been my favorite player in this game. Ever since the red check on Splinter he's just been trying so hard to help Town, and I love him so much for that. His big post about the Lovers chat, and how he said goodbye, I felt so bad! I didn't want him to die, and then he didn't! And then it was floated around that we could kill him that night in Scum Chat, but we decided not to because it would have been so mean to do to him.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think I know what Ketkat is going for here.

She made a note in Scum Chat a little bit ago about how Town is probably sick of seeing Scum Gambits now and might jump on someone if they sniff one out, so Nin should maybe hold off on the thing about tracking Malus.

Then in the game thread, she makes a note about how the thing between CoolestSpot and LP could be another Scum Gambit, basically testing her theory to see if people jump on that. Haha, she's good.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
#TeamBomb

I hope he never lets it go. Luckily, it seems like pretty much everything can fit into the theory at this point, considering he flipped from thinking they had to lay it at night before it went off, to now thinking that the bomber just brings it with them and sticks it on someone in the same room as them at night lol. Oh, and that it causes the kill to be a Janitor kill.
 

Franconp

Frank
Remember how Poltergust is the lover of Splinter? Well Splinters role PM in this thread actually does not mention Polter at all. It only states that his lover is REDACTED and the flavor only talks as "Splinters Lover". While I do find his huge post of his lover chat convincing, I just want to point out that this isn't set in stone.

Taking note for conspiracy 2: lovers with only one lover.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, there's Nin lol.

By the way, he missed the deadline last night even though he wanted to Track Stan, so he didn't actually track anyone last night. And he tracked Vere N5 actually, he submitted the kill on N4. Since he doesn't know what Stan did, he can't pretend he tracked him, so he had to say he tracked both his scum-mates there.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh wait, I got part of that wrong haha,

he did do what he said he did on N4. N5 is the lie, that's when he submitted the kill.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Okay, I'll admit, this is a smart play from Nin. I'm not even sure if I'd fall for that or not.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how everyone reacts to that. I would think one could argue that this is his way of getting heat off of him when there are legitimate reasons to be scum-reading him right now.

Poor Poltergust seems to be falling for it hard, and now he's bringing up Faddy's Role Cop scenario again lol.
 
Man... About nin's claim. It's like uhh.. you're so sure about scum fantomas for days but never bothered to check?
LP claims item giver and you don't even consider tracking that?
Shady alien investigator terra and you are not looking if he moves?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, it's starting to look like Kalor jailing LP when he did really bit us in the ass lol. We tried to Janitor him on N3.
 
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