Scum Thread The Hidden Meeting Room (aka The Bathroom)
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malus
#1 official chartmaker
Yeah looks pretty grim. I would be very suspicious if someone tried to lynch someone but backed down almost immediately once the lynch becomes actually viable.
But we'll just have to make the best of it. I believe KetKat has been largely town read so far and Nin hasn't been considered a viable lynch target yet.
But we'll just have to make the best of it. I believe KetKat has been largely town read so far and Nin hasn't been considered a viable lynch target yet.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I think the three of you should be fine for a while still, but there's a good chance that me and Splinter go back to back here if Sorian jumps on board the scum read of me.
And yeah, as for Faddy, I don't know how much longer he Town reads me for. It depends on Sorian I think.
And yeah, as for Faddy, I don't know how much longer he Town reads me for. It depends on Sorian I think.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Huh...
Now that I think about it, if we can get both the Lie and Secret Vote tomorrow, it might at least buy me another day. Would people believe the red check, or the scum read on me? That's the question. It would also be the most highly suspect situation in the world, but what else can happen? I'd probably die in the Secret Vote, and if we don't use it tomorrow, we don't use it at all. If, however, we issue the Fake Red Check as well, now there is something else there.
Now that I think about it, if we can get both the Lie and Secret Vote tomorrow, it might at least buy me another day. Would people believe the red check, or the scum read on me? That's the question. It would also be the most highly suspect situation in the world, but what else can happen? I'd probably die in the Secret Vote, and if we don't use it tomorrow, we don't use it at all. If, however, we issue the Fake Red Check as well, now there is something else there.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Problem is if you get lynched anyway we will probably have another confirmed town.
Or you could give the red check on one of us and claim the amnestic cop. If you get lynched the target will probably get some town cred and if the target is lynched, you get the town cred.
Or you could give the red check on one of us and claim the amnestic cop. If you get lynched the target will probably get some town cred and if the target is lynched, you get the town cred.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'm thinking about targets right now.
I think if I deploy the Amnesiac Cop gambit, it will be too suspect for Faddy to receive the results here. I would want it to go to someone like Kalor maybe, or even Fireblend. If people go for the check, then the mislynch happens, it might put attention on them before me in that case.
Not sure who should be the target of the Fake Red Check though yet. Melon is still on the table in my mind, personally. Also Verelios though.
I think if I deploy the Amnesiac Cop gambit, it will be too suspect for Faddy to receive the results here. I would want it to go to someone like Kalor maybe, or even Fireblend. If people go for the check, then the mislynch happens, it might put attention on them before me in that case.
Not sure who should be the target of the Fake Red Check though yet. Melon is still on the table in my mind, personally. Also Verelios though.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
God dammit. I am just so fucking dead, I can't do shit about it. Like, I just can't help it. I don't know what to do. I am obviously falling apart yeah, I have no idea what to say right now. I just feel really bad that I fucked things up for us all so much yesterday. Fuck me.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I don't know, I feel like I should just dip out of the thread for the rest of the day, there's no point. It's only going to take Faddy a few more posts to realize he's wrong about me. There's nothing I can say in my defense. Anything I could try to do would be seen as scummy. I'd rather just let them get it over with at this point. I wish I could die today instead of Splinter, that would have worked out so much better.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
you did not "fuck" anything up Fantomas.
Again get out of that hole of yours.
I know its tough and scary but be FREE.
Enjoy the game and be FREE my friend
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I just don't know what to say. I'm scum and everyone knows it. Almost everyone has committed to voting for me ASAP. What more can I do? This day is pointless because it's going to end with Splinter dying eventually. Tomorrow is pointless because I'll get roleblocked and everyone will just turbo me.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
What makes me feel the worst, is that people are scum reading me for my votes on D2, and I don't think Town-Me plays D2 any differently really in all honesty.
So basically, I'm just being told that I fucking suck at the game, and they're right, I made awful posts and awful plays pretty much all of D2. I was so confident that I knew what I was doing, but I literally have no clue what I'm doing, I'm just pretending like I do.
I think I just need to not play for a long time, like months, or even a year maybe, and just watch games in spec threads instead until I actually learn how to play correctly, because I'm just out here winging it, and it's clearly not doing me, or in this case my scum teammates, any favors at all.
So basically, I'm just being told that I fucking suck at the game, and they're right, I made awful posts and awful plays pretty much all of D2. I was so confident that I knew what I was doing, but I literally have no clue what I'm doing, I'm just pretending like I do.
I think I just need to not play for a long time, like months, or even a year maybe, and just watch games in spec threads instead until I actually learn how to play correctly, because I'm just out here winging it, and it's clearly not doing me, or in this case my scum teammates, any favors at all.
Franconp
Frank
Ok, I'm just going to say a little something:
Fanto I don't think you have played badly this time. You just had bad luck and we really screwed up thing the last phase. I'm very sorry about that. But you shouldn't feel that bad about yourself. To me you were one of the best players during GoT and in this game you are making a really good effort. Also not everything is lost yet, things can change pretty quickly in mafia. Obviously this is up to you but I really hope that you join us in other games as is really fun watching you play.
Fanto I don't think you have played badly this time. You just had bad luck and we really screwed up thing the last phase. I'm very sorry about that. But you shouldn't feel that bad about yourself. To me you were one of the best players during GoT and in this game you are making a really good effort. Also not everything is lost yet, things can change pretty quickly in mafia. Obviously this is up to you but I really hope that you join us in other games as is really fun watching you play.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I appreciate the thoughts, and I know it's not all lost yet.
I guess I just need to figure out a new way to look at the game so I can figure out what to do next, because right now it's tough for me to think of a way out of this hole. But yeah, I won't give up yet, I just need a new plan.
I guess I just need to figure out a new way to look at the game so I can figure out what to do next, because right now it's tough for me to think of a way out of this hole. But yeah, I won't give up yet, I just need a new plan.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Verelios
Sorian
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Faddy
Ok, so this is the list of players, besides us and Poltergust, who are left in the game. Who does everyone want to kill out of that list? Maybe we should each pick one person we'd want, and then a back-up as well.
At this point, I'm just feeling spiteful. I want to kill either Verelios or Melon, period. I don't care how badly it reflects on me. So this kill should probably be left up to y'all to decide instead. I personally think either would be fine for a Janitor kill.
If we do want to risk the kill attempt on Sorian, definitely make it a Janitor kill. His role was so weird, no one in this game deserves to actually read that PM until the game is over lol.
Sorian
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Faddy
Ok, so this is the list of players, besides us and Poltergust, who are left in the game. Who does everyone want to kill out of that list? Maybe we should each pick one person we'd want, and then a back-up as well.
At this point, I'm just feeling spiteful. I want to kill either Verelios or Melon, period. I don't care how badly it reflects on me. So this kill should probably be left up to y'all to decide instead. I personally think either would be fine for a Janitor kill.
If we do want to risk the kill attempt on Sorian, definitely make it a Janitor kill. His role was so weird, no one in this game deserves to actually read that PM until the game is over lol.
Yeah, you've been playing a pretty fantastic game Fanto. And it's not like its over yet. We still have some options available to us, and if we can get that red check out there, then that might be able to shift things in our favor some and away from you.
I'm not really sure who we should kill yet, but we'll definitely want to use the red check and my power tonight at the least.
I'm not really sure who we should kill yet, but we'll definitely want to use the red check and my power tonight at the least.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Sorian would be my choice for the night kill, but I agree that he is now the prime target for protection. Fantomas, you said you still have the 1-shot bulletproof from N1. So it's not just active on the night you receive it, but also on other nights? Or is there a time restriction? If it's active indefinitely it seams kind of a strong power to have more than a few shots, so maybe the protector is already out of shots.
Next on the list for me would be Verelios or TheChuggernaut.
Next on the list for me would be Verelios or TheChuggernaut.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
My current feels on night actions:
Kill: Sorian (Janitor)
Red Check: Melon (Send to ???)
Track: Nin's Choice.
And then of course use the Secret Vote.
So that should mean we are all using our abilities tonight, with Malus applying his Janitor Modifier to the kill. I think we should really use one of our Janitor shots here regardless of who we target.
Kill: Sorian (Janitor)
Red Check: Melon (Send to ???)
Track: Nin's Choice.
And then of course use the Secret Vote.
So that should mean we are all using our abilities tonight, with Malus applying his Janitor Modifier to the kill. I think we should really use one of our Janitor shots here regardless of who we target.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
And to explain why I think we should kill Sorian, it's because of all the players around, he will probably be the one to keep his head on straight the most of we do end up with the Red Check + Secret Vote combo tomorrow. He'd probably tell everyone to not vote for the Red Check and to make their votes known in the thread regardless of how the Secret Vote mechanic works. I don't think anyone else would be able to convince people to do that though.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
I agree with that. I don't know how long I still survive so it will be best to use my janitor kills as soon as possible.
About the red check, not sure who to send it to. If you are going to claim the cop you should probably not send it to faddy, but someone random, that is generally neutral or town read. I would expect if you can choose who it is sent to that you would send it to sorian, who is 100% town, so it may be better to claim that you can't choose who receives the result.
About the red check, not sure who to send it to. If you are going to claim the cop you should probably not send it to faddy, but someone random, that is generally neutral or town read. I would expect if you can choose who it is sent to that you would send it to sorian, who is 100% town, so it may be better to claim that you can't choose who receives the result.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'm thinking I don't claim until I'm actually up for a lynch, and then I can go back and claim credit for it with my breadcrumb and see how that goes. Otherwise, I kind of want to just let it happen.
As for who to send it to, yeah, my one worry is sending it to someone who doubts its validity right away. I'd rather send it to someone who will just be open about it.
Currently, I'm leaning towards handing it to Chuggernaut. I don't think he would hide that info, and I don't think anyone would have a major reason to doubt him initially at least. After it proves to be false, he could definitely get some shade on him for it I think.
As for who to send it to, yeah, my one worry is sending it to someone who doubts its validity right away. I'd rather send it to someone who will just be open about it.
Currently, I'm leaning towards handing it to Chuggernaut. I don't think he would hide that info, and I don't think anyone would have a major reason to doubt him initially at least. After it proves to be false, he could definitely get some shade on him for it I think.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Also we have the 48 hour weekend night phase here, so no need to rush on our night actions. I'd like to take the time to hear everyone's input on targets for the Kill and the Lie, and since Nin said in the game thread he wasn't feeling well again he can go ahead and take all the time he wants to think about who he wants to Track tonight.
That's pretty surprising that Polter lived. I was really hoping that Splinter was going to get to take someone with him!
I'm going to take a little bit of time to think about who we should kill and frame and then I'll post about it here, but if we do end up killing Sorian, then I'm not sure there's much use in using the Janitor power on him. We definitely should be using it more often, since its kind of wasted otherwise, but I don't see a huge benefit in using it on someone who has likely revealed everything they can do to the whole game. At the very least, it'll leave Town guessing as to how many powers we have that they haven't discovered yet if we have to hold on to it for now.
I'm going to take a little bit of time to think about who we should kill and frame and then I'll post about it here, but if we do end up killing Sorian, then I'm not sure there's much use in using the Janitor power on him. We definitely should be using it more often, since its kind of wasted otherwise, but I don't see a huge benefit in using it on someone who has likely revealed everything they can do to the whole game. At the very least, it'll leave Town guessing as to how many powers we have that they haven't discovered yet if we have to hold on to it for now.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
And speaking of the Track, I would like to ultimately leave it up to Nin just because the Blarg pick on D1 was pretty good, but I'd like to hear thoughts on that note I made about Kalor possibly being the roleblocker. Might be worth it to track him, especially if one of us gets roleblocked again, because that could confirm that theory. But yeah, up to Nin in the end though.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Oh, hi, yeah I'm here too, just working on some homework but I'll be checking in here too now that people are posting.
I'm still leaning towards putting the fake red check on Melon, but I'm still not sure who I should send it to. Would like to hear thoughts on that if anyone has ideas.
I'm still leaning towards putting the fake red check on Melon, but I'm still not sure who I should send it to. Would like to hear thoughts on that if anyone has ideas.
Looking at the list of people that we could go for, I think it might be beneficial to try and take out some of the confirmed town that are around. Or at the very least trusted people. Being able to janitor scrub someone that we're not entirely sure on and can leave town in the dark with could be beneficial, but we need to narrow down the list of people that they can trust and look towards for guidance.
I think I'd be okay with a Sorian, Polter, or Terra for tonight. I think that Sorian is going to stay as a trusted town for the rest of the game, and might have someone protecting him tonight, but he's absolutely going to be a huge problem for us. Polter should also end up being confirmed town from this, and there's a possibility that he also had two powers, and was just keeping one hidden. And Terra is at the very least making people think that he's a vanilla town, although there could still be something out there that he could find I'm not too worried about it.
I'd really be fine with any of those three. Killing Polter might be a little mean, but I think he might be the safest pick from those. Is there anyone that you're all leaning towards?
I think I'd be okay with a Sorian, Polter, or Terra for tonight. I think that Sorian is going to stay as a trusted town for the rest of the game, and might have someone protecting him tonight, but he's absolutely going to be a huge problem for us. Polter should also end up being confirmed town from this, and there's a possibility that he also had two powers, and was just keeping one hidden. And Terra is at the very least making people think that he's a vanilla town, although there could still be something out there that he could find I'm not too worried about it.
I'd really be fine with any of those three. Killing Polter might be a little mean, but I think he might be the safest pick from those. Is there anyone that you're all leaning towards?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I do agree that killing Polter here would be a bit mean, but I also agree with the logic behind it and him being the safest pick for sure.
Maybe some pros/cons for killing each?
Sorian
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town. Zero mislynch potential. Has strong solving skills. Has mentioned almost all of us as possible suspects.
Cons: Could be protected. Is likely Vanilla now.
Poltergust
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town. Next to zero mislynch potential. Might have a second hidden power like Splinter did. Still wants to vote for me.
Cons: Mean kill, will need to apologize after the game. Could be essentially Vanilla.
Terraforce
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town.
Cons: Could still have mislynch potential. Could still help to find a Neutral faction. Could be essentially Vanilla.
Out of those three, I would lean to the Sorian or Polter kill, with Polter being the safer but meaner one.
Maybe some pros/cons for killing each?
Sorian
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town. Zero mislynch potential. Has strong solving skills. Has mentioned almost all of us as possible suspects.
Cons: Could be protected. Is likely Vanilla now.
Poltergust
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town. Next to zero mislynch potential. Might have a second hidden power like Splinter did. Still wants to vote for me.
Cons: Mean kill, will need to apologize after the game. Could be essentially Vanilla.
Terraforce
Pros: Killing a basically Confirmed Town.
Cons: Could still have mislynch potential. Could still help to find a Neutral faction. Could be essentially Vanilla.
Out of those three, I would lean to the Sorian or Polter kill, with Polter being the safer but meaner one.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Just to get the list back in front of us again:
RED = Ketkat's Kill Suggestions
PINK = Fake Red Check Target
BLUE = Possible Recipient of Fake Red Check
Verelios
Sorian
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Faddy
Poltergust
This is how I'm viewing our Night right now. Unless someone can come up with a better fake red check target for me, I'm putting it on Melon. As for the recipient, I'm thinking about either sticking with sending it to Faddy, or else another common-but-not-totally-confirmed Town read that people have, like Vere or Chugg.
RED = Ketkat's Kill Suggestions
PINK = Fake Red Check Target
BLUE = Possible Recipient of Fake Red Check
Verelios
Sorian
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Faddy
Poltergust
This is how I'm viewing our Night right now. Unless someone can come up with a better fake red check target for me, I'm putting it on Melon. As for the recipient, I'm thinking about either sticking with sending it to Faddy, or else another common-but-not-totally-confirmed Town read that people have, like Vere or Chugg.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
after yesterday town will do everything in their night power to keep him alive.
would be a dumb move to try to kill him tonight, since everyone will be at his place.
No kill is a wasted kill
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Fanto
Confirmed Town
It's two-shot, but they can't be used two nights in a row.
Ok, I think that's what I'll do then, same thing I tried to do last night.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
okay great!
What do you think about Leaving Sorian alone tonight ?
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
lets just hope that you wont be blocked again :((((((((