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[Natiko]

I'm not panicking...

just frustrated at all the noise being made.

Pls Brazil, come in and talk sense to people.

Just lightly ribbing those that started to get too gloomy and thought DCPat would win just because town is exhibiting some weak play. Brazil and Gorlak will get this thing solved and put to bed soon enough. DCPat has to focus on all the PRs so he won't have the luxury of eliminating those putting in the most work to solve the game.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm surprised DC isn't killing Gorlak tbh

 

[turmoil7]

Maybe killing Brazil would be a good move

I can see the "Gorlak was afraid of Brazil thinking out of the box" posts writing themselves

 

[Stuart444]

For some reason, the thread got unwatched. Had to watch it again.

 

[turmoil7]

Swamped claimed on N5, i suppose she would only claim if she knew she wouldn't die for sure ie she was going to self heal that night, so shooting her would be a good move tonight, but I suspect melon is using her doctor shot on her so dcpat is fucked regardless if she is his target

 

[Fanto]

Currently there will be no kill, and ab is targeting z-beat

So, protection on his kill target I'm assuming? And maybe people will finally lay off of Z-Beat after they see he didn't move now.

How's everyone feeling? Still panicking thinking DCPat is going to somehow get all those mislynches? lol

 

[cabot]

DC targeting swamped and she is protecting herself.

This night is made much more difficult with melon being alive. I was pretty sure she would've been the lynch yesterday

 

[Fanto]

This night is made much more difficult with melon being alive. I was pretty sure she would've been the lynch yesterday

I think she got lucky in that the one and only way for her to come out looking good was for AB + Swamped/Gorlak to make their claims first. Since she had the missing piece of the puzzle on that info, I think that made her look really good bringing it forward. Like, if she would have been up for a lynch and forced to claim without anyone else claiming, I don't know if it keeps her alive, but the way in which she got to claim here makes her a lot harder to want to lynch now I'd think. Unless you're Zeke of course.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm betting Zeke is going to put a vote for her right away.

I'll be shocked if he doesn't.

 

[Natiko]

I'm betting Zeke is going to put a vote for her right away.

I'll be shocked if he doesn't.

Yeah, he'll place a vote on Melon, call everyone scummy, ask eight people what they think of Melon, and then switch to voting on whoever is actually a lynch candidate right around EOD/majority. After doubling down on Melon post-claims there's no reason to expect otherwise. Especially if it's a no kill night - Zeke will push that someone needs to be flipped from the claims.

 

[turmoil7]

Poor dcpat :(

 

[Fanto]

Well, let's see how this goes.

 

[turmoil7]

3 mislynches, mylo and then an extra mislynch, yep no way of getting that

 

[Fanto]

3 mislynches, mylo and then an extra mislynch, yep no way of getting that

I'll make sure to quote this post after we've passed MyLo.

 

[Natiko]

I’m not sure what a path to victory would even look like for DCPat at this point.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Don’t go after AB, what are you doing

 

[Chuggernaut]

Holy shit, Zeke. The ride never ends

 

[Stuart444]

Think we should lynch


Malus dc Alexem or zbeat


Unless we thought no scum was on nin?

OMG, is he actually suggesting someone who isn't Melon? And suggesting someone who is actual scum. wow

 

[turmoil7]

I'll make sure to quote this post after we've passed MyLo.

I wouldn't expect less

 

[The Bear]

 

[Stuart444]

"She seemed like a good choice"

hmm... :P

 

[Fanto]

Lmao

 

[Stuart444]

Surprised there is no vote yet lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

Lynch order should be DC > Alex > Malus after AB says who he tracked. Or Alex > DC > Malus

 

[Natiko]

Lollll

I wonder if Gorlak ends up coming to the conclusion that in his theoretical wolf pairs DCPat is the most common denominator and pushes for his lynch.

 

[turmoil7]

Zeke won't like that lol

 

[Fanto]

Oh God, if they actually want to lynch AB for that lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

My ghost will haunt all 8 of them if they decide to fucking lynch AB for that.

 

[Stuart444]

If you all want to lynch me to verify I'm town I understand. It might be the best move for the day.

What? No.

Just no

 

[turmoil7]

Good thing I thought a Chugg town flip at least would make it safer for the town tracker to claim when needed :p

 

[Fanto]

Malus, if you ever read this, your role claim lists are absolutely perfect. Well done.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Stop. Trying. To. Filp. PR’s

You have a list of who you should filp. Start lynching from that list. This isn’t hard.

They should be thinking they’re 2 days to MYLO too so I have no idea why they’re screwing around like this. There’s no urgency at all right now.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Melon didn't have to save Swamped because she figured Swamped would save herself. Come on, Gorlak.

 

[Fanto]

Gorlak is completely unwilling to see Melon's role as a Town role.

This is not going to end well.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I want an actual explanation from everyone who decided that DC can't be scum because of the Turmoil flip. It makes zero sense

 

[Chuggernaut]

I see why they're trying not to say Swamped's role, but scum already knows so all they're doing by dancing around it is making this conversation harder then it needs to be. They don't know that for sure though

 

[Fanto]

I want an actual explanation from everyone who decided that DC can't be scum because of the Turmoil flip. It makes zero sense

S A M E

 

[Fanto]

I see why they're trying not to say Swamped's role, but scum already knows so all they're doing by dancing around it is making this conversation harder then it needs to be. They don't know that for sure though

I'm pretty sure Melon already said it yesterday actually, I'd have to go look for the post though. I'm pretty sure she said something about having targeted a Doctor though.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh thank christ. Gorlak scared me for a bit there, but now he's actually suggesting what they should be doing

 

[cabot]

Some great logic here. Scum would effectively keep a doctor alive because lynch, even though Cs was fairly townread

 

[cabot]

Jesus Zeke. This scum melon theory has so. Many fuckin holes now, but he'll keep trying damnit.

 

[Chuggernaut]

A scum team of Melon and AB would of had AB claim tracker out of nowhere and just get a dumb amount of heat on them for no reason.

A scum team of AB and Swamped would mean Swamped tried to get AB killed and had Melon lie about her role for no reason.

A scum team of Swamped and Melon would mean scum Melon swept in to save AB for no reason.

Melon being scum on her own means she swept in to save town AB for no reason.

Swamped being scum would have to involve Melon just lying for no reason.

AB being scum would mean he just outed himself for no reason.

None of these make sense as scum

 

[Fanto]

Okay. Let's assume I believe you and your claim.

Oh my god, Gorlak lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh my god, Gorlak lol

To be fair, I'm half expecting Melon to give some weird answer here too

 

[Fanto]

To be fair, I'm half expecting Melon to give some weird answer here too

Maybe Chuggs was right about DC?

 

[Chuggernaut]

YES

 

[Chuggernaut]

Come on Gorlak. Vote DC. You know you want to. I see it in your eyes.

 

[Chuggernaut]

And now Zeke is scum reading Gorlak, what on earth

 

[Fanto]

I'm about to go to bed, but I'm just gunna say this before I do:

DCPat is playing with fire by poking at Malus here. Bad idea. I trust Malus to see through that shit as being fake as all hell.

 

[turmoil7]

Did melon use the power on herself or is she wifoming?

 

[Chuggernaut]

There you go, Alex.

I think the issue that town is having is that no one on the right track wants to commit. Every time someone is closing in on scum they bring it up in context of “Hey, this seems kind of strange. What do you guys think?” and then they don’t put a vote down. You need to be convincing otherwise no one is going to hop on the wagon. I’m still kind of new so I might not be the best person to offer adivce, but Gorlak buddy. You’re good at this game. Trust your reads more.

 

[turmoil7]

Everyone is afraid of being the spearhead of a mislynch and becoming the mislynch next day phase

 

[turmoil7]

I haven't had kidney stones yet, one of my biggest fears.

#neverdrinkingsodaagain

 

[Chuggernaut]

I haven't had kidney stones yet, one of my biggest fears.

#neverdrinkingsodaagain

Right there with you. It sounds awful

 

[Stuart444]

What does surprise me is that DCPat seems to have gone out of focus recently. I've long had him as one of my top suspects for the earlier voting patterns, but Stuart, Chuggernaut, GP and Turmoil all thought he'd be a worthy target at various times. Could it be possible that our attention has been drawn away from him intentionally?

Thank you Alexem

 

[Chuggernaut]

Thank you Alexem

Can't wait for everyone to just ignore that post

 

[Stuart444]

Vote: melonrabbit

Well there it is...

 

[Chuggernaut]

Good lord. Town, if you want to just put everything on hold and vote for Zeke I won't knock you for it

 

[turmoil7]

I warned you about tunnels bro

I told you dog

 

[Chuggernaut]

I warned you about tunnels bro

I told you dog

This is kind of funny after we tunneled each other to death lol

 

[cabot]

Did melon use the power on herself or is she wifoming?

She didn't do anything, which is what she implied. Tunnel the fucking tunnel inferred she targeted herself

 

[cabot]

This tunnel is sort of how bad squidys was on me during sneakers mafia.


That was a long period of chasing me

 

[Stuart444]

Nice Swamped

 

[Chuggernaut]

Thank you Swamped.

 

[Stuart444]

 

[Natiko]

Some really, really bad mafia play going on rn.

 

[turmoil7]

You mean bad town play? If so I agree.

Dcpat is building castles out of mud lol

 

[Giant Panda]

Swamped is so close. Alexem and Malus have good voting records and Z-beat got semi-cleared by AB. That leaves one person left...

 

[Chuggernaut]

Swamped is so close. Alexem and Malus have good voting records and Z-beat got semi-cleared by AB. That leaves one person left...

I mean. That’s all well and good, but what do you think of Melon?

 

[turmoil7]

Swamped is so close. Alexem and Malus have good voting records and Z-beat got semi-cleared by AB. That leaves one person left...

Melonrabbit

 

[Natiko]

You mean bad town play? If so I agree.

Dcpat is building castles out of mud lol

Yeah I mean mafia as in the game, not the faction.

 

[turmoil7]

Has someone ever overcome something close to a 12vs1 as scum here?

 

[Natiko]

I don't think DCPat's current plan is going to work out for him, but it's probably as good a shot as any at trying to throw town off.

 

[Natiko]

"I believe AB"

Then votes for the person AB saw no movement from. Smh.

 

[cabot]

Has someone ever overcome something close to a 12vs1 as scum here?

Not sure, but have you thought about melonrabbit?

 

[turmoil7]

I think he should gambit to not night kill and hope AB tracks him. I don't see other way for him to nail so many mislynches

 

[Natiko]

I would absolutely be trying to lynch Zeke right now. His posts read like someone trying to justify lynching a non-threat (town or neutral) to confirm info instead of trying to lynch scum.

 

[Stuart444]

 

[Fanto]

What does surprise me is that DCPat seems to have gone out of focus recently. I've long had him as one of my top suspects for the earlier voting patterns, but Stuart, Chuggernaut, GP and Turmoil all thought he'd be a worthy target at various times. Could it be possible that our attention has been drawn away from him intentionally?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ok, anyways, I've caught up now. This is painful to watch. I just wish people would scum read others based on the content of the entire game, instead of just doing it based on feels and vibes.

 

[empressdonna]

 

[Chuggernaut]

AB had a post on the last day were he was against a DC lynch because DC was there and participating which is one of the weirdest reasons to town read someone

 

[Fanto]

I think the issue that town is having is that no one on the right track wants to commit. Every time someone is closing in on scum they bring it up in context of “Hey, this seems kind of strange. What do you guys think?” and then they don’t put a vote down. You need to be convincing otherwise no one is going to hop on the wagon. I’m still kind of new so I might not be the best person to offer adivce, but Gorlak buddy. You’re good at this game. Trust your reads more.

Getting caught up in here, I fully agree with this post. Something I have learned so far is that confidence is something everyone needs to have in this game, regardless of alignment.

 

[Fanto]

I would absolutely be trying to lynch Zeke right now. His posts read like someone trying to justify lynching a non-threat (town or neutral) to confirm info instead of trying to lynch scum.

Whoa, settle down, hold on a minute. What do you think about Melon though?

 

[cabot]

AB had a post on the last day were he was against a DC lynch because DC was there and participating which is one of the weirdest reasons to town read someone

within context, it was alright. He had a small section of players who barely posted anything and he hadn't checked, and DCPat was the most active out of all of them. It's not ironclad obviously, but at that point i'd choose to lynch the non active ones.

 

[turmoil7]

Asking for the night movements of a doctor

Not scummy at all

 

[Fanto]

Asking for the night movements of a doctor

Not scummy at all

Zeke, all game: "Hey, are you PR fishing? You are obviously Scum now!"

Also Zeke: "Ok, so Swamped is clearly the Doctor. Who all did she target on the previous 6 days?"

 

[Natiko]

There's one. Now for Gorlak to follow and we may yet see Town drag this across the finish line this day phase.

 

[Stuart444]

Just realized the day is a bit weird, ends tomorrow which is Saturday.

 

[Stuart444]

Also good on you Alexem, using your brain there.

 

[turmoil7]

*reading zeke's post after alexem's* laughs

 

[Fanto]

OH MY GOD ALEXEM THANK YOU

 

[Stuart444]

"I can't believe they're eating this shit up"

-Spec Thread probably

That's... certainly one way to put it

 

[cabot]

Just realized the day is a bit weird, ends tomorrow which is Saturday.

Stupid ResetEra updates.

Also good on you Alexem, using your brain there.

Alexem is a really good player, but his posting style i think comes off as scummy. Its frustrating, because after having been in 2+ games with him, I know what to expect, but everyone else just goes for the easy bait.

 

[Natiko]

Gorlak out here saying the exact same things I posted here for Zeke, but he's instantly disregarding them. I just.. do you, I guess. I just don't see how he can think that his approach to this game has been beneficial for anyone. Zeke can be a strong player, but it honestly feels like he's just becoming a parody of himself as time goes on. His tunnels and conspiracies are becoming more laughable, and his analysis is degrading to just chirping the same question to everyone and not doing anything with the responses. When he's called out on it he just posts *shrug* and repeats the question again. I know he's a better player than this.

 

[turmoil7]

Had I been the matchmaker I would had created Zeke Melon chats every night just for the entertainment value

 

[Stuart444]

Had I been the matchmaker I would had created Zeke Melon chats every night just for the entertainment value

Now this would be funny.

 

[Stuart444]

Can't blame Gorlak getting angry.

Other town people besides Zeke need to get in and start voting for DCPat though!

 

[turmoil7]

Stupid ResetEra updates.



Alexem is a really good player, but his posting style i think comes off as scummy. Its frustrating, because after having been in 2+ games with him, I know what to expect, but everyone else just goes for the easy bait.

Probably it is me recalling wrong but the sensation I had left after rereading his D1 and D2 was that he words everything to sound "could be scum but also town". Dcpat is kinda risk averse like that too, at least when scum, that's why I wanted to forward the alexem/dcpat path at the beginning of d3

 

[Stuart444]

 

[cabot]

Had I been the matchmaker I would had created Zeke Melon chats every night just for the entertainment value

I'm sad you weren't a scum role.