Cult Thread Against Bastard! Cult Chat
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I thought Blarg did for a second, Kyan’s post confused me on the numbers
I was definitely for Brazil too when we recruited Sawneeks, but more because he's in that space of not being a priority lynch or a priority night kill for now.
It'll be a while until we can recruit again, anyways. With Pineapple Pizza on D7, and if there'd be 1 lynch and 1 NK until we possibly got another shot (+ assuming Fireblend is telling the truth), 7 people will die and the game will be down to 8 players before we get another ally.
It'll be a while until we can recruit again, anyways. With Pineapple Pizza on D7, and if there'd be 1 lynch and 1 NK until we possibly got another shot (+ assuming Fireblend is telling the truth), 7 people will die and the game will be down to 8 players before we get another ally.
Just have to reorganize thoughts at this point, we have the benefit of knowing that Sawneeks was only just recruited last night, town and scum have no clue when it could have happened. There were plenty of lazy malus voters that could have been teammates with her but a good case needs more than that, none of us “protected” her before today. Game just got a lot longer though.
(Letting someone change the vote like that pretty much seconds before day end is kind of lame)
(Letting someone change the vote like that pretty much seconds before day end is kind of lame)
I see. The "neutral" claims are going to get you and Fireblend laser focused during the next day phase, and this might turn people away from voting for Pineapple Pizza. Well, good news is that maybe we'll get a recruitment shot from whatever surfaces in the end, if it's indeed not PP?
Bad news is that Sorian's going to be on the chopping block starting next day phase. I'm going to bring up an argument that the Cthulhu modifier is what created the cult, since it was so seemingly benign and apparently it wasn't because it changed something behind the scenes, just like Star Wars. I obviously don't want to implicate Sorian too much in his push for it, but... man. I'll think of a workaround there.
Bad news is that Sorian's going to be on the chopping block starting next day phase. I'm going to bring up an argument that the Cthulhu modifier is what created the cult, since it was so seemingly benign and apparently it wasn't because it changed something behind the scenes, just like Star Wars. I obviously don't want to implicate Sorian too much in his push for it, but... man. I'll think of a workaround there.
lol, if you mean out ourselves further, no. But target Fireblend for potentially being part of the cult? I will, since I was already doubting him. They don't know what the modifiers do for us, if anything, so probably best to not insist too much on that point.
Honestly, I'm not sure how to play it. I'm in a position where whatever I do will get scrutiny because I'm a claimed neutral so I can just go along with Fire and still not have any more issue than I would have already. From a pure mechanics standpoint, a cult only has one goal, it's easy to explain away voting Pineapple for anybody because, this is still Fireblend commiting suicide if the modifier doesn't do exactly what he said it was going to do and it makes no sense for an hidden cult to send a member on a suicide run. That said, Monkey and Fantomas seem to be leading the charge away anyway, I've kind of talked myself into just following their lead. The fake games should (hopefully) all have shots so Flux could stay and switch to Bar 2 later if that pulls ahead a lot and Kyan can probably vote for whatever he wants and everyone will forget it anyway.
And no, don't try to make up excuses for Cthulhu lol Star Wars specifically had a message for stuff happening in the background, Cthulhu did not. The easier explanation is that a cult has existed and has been recruiting every night. Cults usually start with a single person so *does some quick math* town should be super worried about the cult since there are 13 players right now and up to 5 cult members, up to 6 after tonight's phase. With that math in mind, town would never help Fireblend now that I'm thinking about it, even if he's telling the truth, his early removal could hand the cult a win.
Yeah, figured I might as well move there since things are in flux now anyways and I get what Monkey's putting down.
You're right about the Cthulhu thing, but just because of that Star Wars message. What a drag, I wanted to create some kind of misdirection regarding the true nature of the cult, but maybe someone else will bring it up.
Paranoia's going to run rampant. I can still point to my commuter role, but people are gonna start doubting that once again...
You're right about the Cthulhu thing, but just because of that Star Wars message. What a drag, I wanted to create some kind of misdirection regarding the true nature of the cult, but maybe someone else will bring it up.
Paranoia's going to run rampant. I can still point to my commuter role, but people are gonna start doubting that once again...
People will doubt everything, Fantomas doing his whole "confirmed town" schtick is now a huge red mark too. It's all chaos, for at least the first day here, we're in the wild west. I'm oddly in a safe place if people actually stop and wonder for a minute since if they lynch me and I'm not a cultist, everyone might lose immediately because the numbers and exact wincon are unknown. And WIFOM states "why claim neutral if you know the cult might get outed"
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Town wins via denying shots to us and killing scum, then the cult.
Scum race us to 50%+1.
We race scum to 50%+1.
Do note that it won't be instantly obvious that our shots are limited. At least hopefully.
Still kinda scum v town: town need to kill scum 1st and scum would prefer to kill town 1st. How much this matters, not much, shots being limited not being public knowledge makes tomorrow's narrative chaotic.
Scum race us to 50%+1.
We race scum to 50%+1.
Do note that it won't be instantly obvious that our shots are limited. At least hopefully.
Still kinda scum v town: town need to kill scum 1st and scum would prefer to kill town 1st. How much this matters, not much, shots being limited not being public knowledge makes tomorrow's narrative chaotic.
Yeah, until Kyan or I die, they don't know how our shots work so that's our cover for now.
Something to keep in mind now that I'm worried about dying. You don't HAVE to use the recruitment shot right when you get it. If the pool becomes so small that you're unsure who might die right away next day or who scum is, you can hold the shot as long as there's two of you. If there's only one left, yeah, absolutely use it right away.
Something to keep in mind now that I'm worried about dying. You don't HAVE to use the recruitment shot right when you get it. If the pool becomes so small that you're unsure who might die right away next day or who scum is, you can hold the shot as long as there's two of you. If there's only one left, yeah, absolutely use it right away.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
11 alive. No instant majority "lol gg" vote block presented - it becomes obvious that cult does not have a majority. Why don't they have a majority: they've hit scum / they've been RB'd / their shots are limited. OG cultist + nights - Sawneeks is six more cultists at max. 3/6/2 is cult win, what suggests that cult hasn't recruited on every night. Cannot be sure of the reason though, so the narrative will be about a possible endgame situation since just a single recruit missed is 4/5/2 what on a mislynch leaves the game on scum killing a cultist.
Is tomorrow cult hunt? What is the townie thing to think here.
Is tomorrow cult hunt? What is the townie thing to think here.
Whether cult or scum, I feel like town would be pre-occupied with both and would treat indications of either with similar importance. Maybe less of an emphasis on cult because it seems they're unable to kill, but since they don't know about the recruitment restriction, reducing their numbers could be seen as very important with fewer players, too.
I think it has to be cult hunt no matter what and even without an instant hammer, that might not mean much since Bear didn't give us a super crazy wincon. Sometimes the win is just to be half the player list but if that's wrong (no instant hammer) then the next guess is either they've missed recruitments for whatever reason or they can't win until killing roles are dead because killing roles can remove the majority.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Since we are 12, scum don't need to shoot cult tonight. Cult would be at six max so tomorrow would be a tie. Shot is stronger than recruit in a race. Anything against scum is a cultist or a potential one, so does it matter though what they shoot? Fear of the unknown is a strong feeling as well.
Yeah, there is no predicting this.
Yeah, there is no predicting this.
Got it, thanks.
If I had to guess at the logic, Brazil was the only person in the game who didn’t have anyone trying to kill him. It got pointed out a lot yesterday, I was the only one who cared. They probably think forcing town to take care of the cult is there only option so they wanted anyone at all who didn’t seem like they were on a team and Brazil was it.
You're maybe hedging a bit hard against voting me but it would look even more awkward to u turn now so it's fine as is. I figure as long as I'm antagonistic to anyone who engages me that should provide ample cover if I really do go down soon.
This day is going to get weird so I’d just wait and see tbh. I might actually argue not using the shot tonight at all unless we can tell for sure the next modifier will also get us a shot. Now that we’re found out, getting a secret large voting block isn’t as important as gettin surprise recruitments at the last moment.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
@Grizzly A theoretical one. I am now town / scum / non-cult aligned neutral in this game and I've just sent you a PM with the following question: "Can the cult in this game recruit neutrals?"
Can you answer this question, considering that the knowledge of cult mechanics is not public information to those of the before mentioned alignments?
Can you answer this question, considering that the knowledge of cult mechanics is not public information to those of the before mentioned alignments?
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I wouldn't answer that.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
***Also mental note that we should probably talk about a rule update about how moderators interact with games. A lot of other communities don’t let mods answer any questions in thread unless they are clarifying information they already presented to the thread directly or they made a mistake. Lying about your role PM is a part of the game and clarifications from the mod would fall in that too.
Look at this guy finding his new favorite memes from his new favorite game.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Sounds something worth discussing. Would also prevent Sorians of the world from giving me headaches.
For Monkey maybe, I’d be shocked if many more care.
It'd be nice if we hit scum for the lynch. There's likely only 2 left, but it's difficult to determine who they are among:
I feel like Natiko and Dr. Monkey are town, but unsure. Blargonaut, too. Heh, maybe 66% chance between Zeke, LP, and rac?
- EzekelRAGE
- Blargonaut
- Lone_Prodigy
- rac
- Natiko
- Dr. Monkey
I feel like Natiko and Dr. Monkey are town, but unsure. Blargonaut, too. Heh, maybe 66% chance between Zeke, LP, and rac?