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Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Welcome, cabot, EzekelRAGE, and Fran!

You are free to quote your role PMs here to each other.
 

Franconp

Frank
Hi scum partners!

This is my role:

You are a Vengeful: if you are lynched, the player with the most recent, active vote on you will also be removed from the game in the same Day phase.

So I could be a sacrificial pawn in case that we need one.
 

cabot

Why.
I can secretly hammer a player.

If a player is majority-1, I can secretly hammer, my public vote will remain in the flip.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Best use of Cabot’s Pr is when there are 2-3 town wagons. In the lead for the day.

I can do “Zeke things” and try and push a mislynch on the other wagon/s.

Since I’m the only one that moves at night, I will need a good Fake claim for when I inevitably am up for lynch.

Cop?
Tracker?
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Depending on how end game goes, Cabot should throw Fran under the bus for town points. Just something to keep in mind.
 

cabot

Why.
Could be pretty useful early game when most wagons are town.

I guess there's no tracker? Our roles aren't easily trackable.

I guess a cop is likely in that case
 

Franconp

Frank
If I'm getting heat I could do as Faddy did in Mafiera and claim cop or doctor to try to bait a counterclaim.

But, with the roles that we have, I'm leaning to no doctor or cop or them having 1 or 2 shots. We have nothing to counter them.

Town could have a SK to counter my role.

I can secretly hammer a player.

One shot?
 

cabot

Why.
It's not. Clear if. It's one shot, I've asked Pedro.

Also missed something. I can't target someone I'm already voting. It makes sense I suppose.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Good luck, friends o/

If you ever want to ask me something, you could do so here too! (might not be able to answer, though)
 

cabot

Why.
You are a Hammerer: you can secretly place your vote on a player by sending me a PM with the command HAMMER: <Player Name>.
You can only use your power if such player needs only 1 more vote to reach majority and be lynched, and if you do not currently have a vote on them.
This means that by using your power, you will secure the lynch and end the current Day.
In order to protect your identity, your previous and public vote will still appear in the vote count, while your secret vote will appear as belonging to “The Hammerer”.

meant to do that earlier.
 

cabot

Why.
Pedro can I place the command down at any point during the day and then it triggers if hammer range?
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Pedro can I place the command down at any point during the day and then it triggers if hammer range?
Sorry, nope; like the PM says, only in a situation when you can actually hammer a player.

Also, I should clarify that since your power works to provoke a lynch, and no lynch will happen today, your power won't work on D1.
 

cabot

Why.
I'm not entirely sure what to do here.

The longer simon stays alive, the more easy it is to attract a lynch.

I'll play it by ear, though I'm not particularly in favour in making sure one of us definitely gets it.
 

Franconp

Frank
I'm still unsure as we don't know how the role works. Having a role that can set the flow of the game is really big for us but it's also risky.

I think all of us should try to get it because that's what is expected for a townie to do but maybe don't push to hard for it.

Also it seems that this is the big mechanic of the game and Simon only get NK protection D1 so it's likely that the role will be moving to other players later in the game.
 

cabot

Why.
Also worth shouting that Simon would be a pr magnet, since he's a target that's confirmed to be not killed.

There's a case to be made about a strong kill messing that up but eh
 

Franconp

Frank
Could Faddy be a PR and trying to stay low to avoid a NK?

Or he is playing like Kark and act antitown to get reactions?
 

cabot

Why.
He could be an override or some sort of day ability where he can prove himself.

Bait a lynch then prove everyone wrong.


Swamped could be pr or neutral, she doesn't seem keen on pushing herself for the role.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
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EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
hopefully there is no doc.

toying with trying to push the idea of scum faddy brining attn with cabot, not know that a vig would take a shot. Hopefully buys some time. Depends on what faddy called me for.
 

Franconp

Frank
I don't like that. Right now Faddy is confirmed town as noone counterclaimed him. Nothing we can do there. I think a couple of players are in a worse situation than you. Also with no lynch today we have plenty of time to turn this around.

I'm just trying to throw a slight shade on a couple of players like Exodus and Apollo to buy us a couple of mislynches. Maybe you should do the same.

I'm thinking that town doesn't have a doc or cop.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
"Zeke is pretty town just for thinking about the shot and how it went down. Scum are much more likely just to fall in line and not argue with a person that they think has a gun. You have to look at people like DCPAT who immediately came in and voted for me after the shot."

See, it worked, least for today. lol
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
"I will say that I came away from this thinking that Zeke is like my second most likely town. He’s clearly thinking about the shot and all of this is just peak Zeke. Good point about DC. He can be slippery as scum"

*truffleshuffle*
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
damn, looks like ur on faddy's radar :/.

im killing him n2.

I would do it 2nite if the simone wasnt kill immune.

who should we go after 2nite?
 

Franconp

Frank
I don't think Faddy is sure that I'm scum. I'm the same post says that I could be scum and then says why I'm not.

I think that he is looking for a reaction.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
given those two options, would rather go vere.

My fear with killing apollo 2nite is that bang post could indeed be a breadcrumb for vig on purpose.

We kill apollo and ppl assume she was targeted due to the PR fishing witht that post. Which leads to looking for the real vig, which leads to giving faddy more credit.

I know the above is confusing, but it makes sense in my head lol .
 

Franconp

Frank
It's ok. I got you.

I like Vere's kill. It's a middle of the pack lynch that can't be traced to us.

Anyone else you think would be a good lynch?
 

Franconp

Frank
[He/him] exodus - EST: Possible mislynch.
[She/her] Swamped - EST: Too related to me. Could incriminate me.
[He/him] Meatwad - EST: Likely the next lynch
[He/him] Verelios - EST: Good target. Could killing Vere relate to you? Both of you had a discussion before day end but I still don't see a strong connection.
[He/him] SalvaPot - PST: Another low profile kill. Haven't done much so far. I feel better killing Vere than Salva but it's a possibility.
[She/her] Apollo - EST: Could be the vig if Faddy isn't. If he is Faddy could be in trouble. If he isn't Faddy gets more townie points. Maybe a good target after killing Faddy.
[He/him] DCPat - CET: Another low profile. Faddy was making a case about him so let's give Faddy another distraction tomorrow.
[He/him] Never Forever - GMT: Another good target. Low info.
[He/him] TheChuggernaut - CST: Faddy don't trust him. His scum reads were Exodus, Meatwad and Swamped. I would leave him alone and wait for him to be lynched.
[He/him] malus - CET: An interesting kill. Also low profile. Null for most people. I still prefer Vere.
 

Franconp

Frank
I won't be around for most of the rest of the night phase.

I'm okay with a Vere, Malus or NF kill, in that order.

I can check this thread in my lunch time, and thats around 3 hours before Day begins. If you can't make the kill I will do it then.
 

Franconp

Frank
We were right about Apollo. We should had take the risk and killed her last night.

I think exodus, Meatwad and swamped will be the targets today.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
@Pedro
If one of us gets Simon and chooses TD, can we still kill the person one of the ppl we planned to TD?

Example: I choose meat and faddy for TD.

I also kill faddy that same night.

Would that be possible?
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Also simon is only bp on night 1 correct? So I could choose Chuggs as Simon that day, then kill him that night?

If so what happens to the Simon power?
Do we have to go with another no lynch day to choose a Simon?
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
@Pedro
If one of us gets Simon and chooses TD, can we still kill the person one of the ppl we planned to TD?

Example: I choose meat and faddy for TD.

I also kill faddy that same night.

Would that be possible?

I wouldn't let you use those two commands together. And I can't answer the questions in the other post.
 

Franconp

Frank
@Pedro you are hiding to much info from us :P

I think that if we kill Apollo tonight we have a good chance of being Simon tomorrow. Both of us are high in Faddy's town list.
 

Franconp

Frank
If Exo is a cop why would he target DC? That would be a weird target.

I don't think so. I think he is just being paranoid. And all this conspiracy theory about Faddy is really nice noise that don't hurt us.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Lol fan. I wouldn’t lump me in with the likes of Chugg/vere. It’s meta that I’m more wrong than not.

Not being scumread sort of saves it I guess.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Meh, wouldn’t take much with double votes. Faddy seems to be wishy washy on you, swamped would vote for you. I believe someone else felt weird about you as well.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
I want to point out how salvapot’s posts seem fillery, but at this point I want it wouldn’t look good. Will post it in a couple of hours.

@Franconp you didn’t say anything about slipping dcpat on your scum list only after others mentioned him.

I won’t be around near eod most likely
 

Franconp

Frank
Meh, wouldn’t take much with double votes. Faddy seems to be wishy washy on you, swamped would vote for you. I believe someone else felt weird about you as well.

Faddy is being wishy washy but he won't vote for me. He still thinks I'm town.

@Franconp you didn’t say anything about slipping dcpat on your scum list only after others mentioned him.

I did. I mentioned yesterday that DC was asking for votes but didn't voted himself.
 

Franconp

Frank
Fuck.

So we kill Apollo, our confirmed vig, DCPat, another confirmed townie, or Faddy?

I'm leaning Apollo tonight. Faddy could receive some shade after how he pushed for DCPat today.

DCPat was scumreading me so I wouldn't kill him tonight.
 

Franconp

Frank
goin for faddy 2nite.

I think he may actually be cop.

There's no way that this game has a cop. We are going to start D3 and town already has 2 confirmed townies. Having a cop that can confirm more people is really OP.

Also we have nothing to help us deal with it so I'm leaning no cop.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
DCPat was scumreading me so I wouldn't kill him tonight.
I like the dc kill a bit more. DC is confirmed town. Your screwed either way in regards to dc's read of you. But i do understand your hesitation in regards to the kill though.

faddy could be pushed by me/exo. Apollo is kinda meh in regards to impact i think.

Apollo or DC, you choose.
 

Franconp

Frank
I'm hoping that town goes for one of the other 3 wagons tomorrow but we are really unlucky this game so I have no confidence.

Good thing is that if I'm lynched I don't think we can be related.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Why would we do that?

We will already lose a kill when someone uses the roleblock.

What's your plan?
Thinking about the long game in the event that you get lynched.
Thinking about a fake doc claim. I think it is unlikely we have a doctor in the game.
I planned to no kill at some point. I sorta breadcrumbed it in post 895. every last word says ""dc, strong,killed"

Idk if I should go for BP or Doc.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
@Franconp odds that faddy has a pr that protects him at night or something? The thought had crossed my mind that he wanted to be nk'd. The claim basically forces our hand to do it if we can't test him in a lynch.
 

Franconp

Frank
Maybe. I think he is a neutral. The way he keep fishing for the cop and trying to direct their targets makes me think he is afraid of being checked.
 

Franconp

Frank
Regarding the no kill, if Faddy flips town governor I don't know if I would believe another protective role for town. Too many defensive powers.

Also you should very careful in case someone else has a bp or is a doctor. There Is no way that town has 2 but, as we don't have strong shots it's unlikely that they have.

If you claim doctor you will have to explain why DCPat died with no strong scum. BP is simpler.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Regarding the no kill, if Faddy flips town governor I don't know if I would believe another protective role for town. Too many defensive powers.

Also you should very careful in case someone else has a bp or is a doctor. There Is no way that town has 2 but, as we don't have strong shots it's unlikely that they have.

If you claim doctor you will have to explain why DCPat died with no strong scum. BP is simpler.
DC death - they used strong kill and we just havent found them yet.
If faddy is gov, those are all lynch defensive powers. nothing for kills

Vig would support a bp/doc.

only real issue is there being a real bp/doc.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
I gets announced at day start anyway.



If you say who is getting it and they kill simon the next simon is randomly picked between eligible players, which means it could go randomly to scum.


So if we hold simon, you can answer more indepth questions then. @Pedro
 

Franconp

Frank
If we lynch Faddy and he doesn't die, should we kill him?

DCPat was scumreading me, Faddy Is scumreading me. If we kill Faddy it will be obvious that I'm scum or it would be so obvious that people won't believe it? Like scum is trying to frame me.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
If we lynch Faddy and he doesn't die, should we kill him?

DCPat was scumreading me, Faddy Is scumreading me. If we kill Faddy it will be obvious that I'm scum or it would be so obvious that people won't believe it? Like scum is trying to frame me.
Thing is, faddy will still be able to give his thoughts on you due to the night phase discussion.

Im cool with however you want to play it.
 
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