Scum Thread The Silver Room

[weemadarthur]

Self watcher doesn’t negate a town tracker like a proper watcher might.

 

[Stuart444]

Never even heard of self watcher til now haha.

 

[Stuart444]

If we can't get Hecht lynched today, we shouldn't kill him. The longer he's alive, the more suspicion is put on him for his claim.

 

[Stuart444]

I mean if they don't lynch me today, I'm pretty sure they'll use another shot on me tonight.

:D nope

 

[weemadarthur]

Completely agreed. The only reason i almost hesitate to go for him is because of the blue fate changing theory lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

I mean, go for him as a lynch candidate.

 

[Stuart444]

Nice Kits

 

[Kitsunelaine]

@Kitsunelaine here's the Discord link: https://discord.gg/y2AcGq

tyvm

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Nice Kits

hahaha i hadn't even read in here when I was writing that

 

[Kitsunelaine]

now we can help birth a narrative that hecht visited GF that night and he had to use one of his vests which is why he didn't beleive hecht's claim(??? if I'm remembering right)

 

[weemadarthur]

No that doesn’t work lol. But you can say it in game thread and get told there if it makes you happy to. XD

Stu asking my questions for me. <3

 

[weemadarthur]

@Brazil does the room modifier affect the night kill?

 

[Stuart444]

I'm certainly hoping others will push on Hecht but I'm trying not to go at it thick because Hecht is trying to make the narrative that whoever goes for him hard is scum after he flips.

Right now that's Saenima, Dubs and Z-Beat .

 

[weemadarthur]

Lol he omgus’d them so hard they’re omgus’ing him back.
Now that’s a good play. Except it’s not. I swear there’s something up with him but i don’t have any cred for going for blue. I will try to push my other theory instead.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Lol he omgus’d them so hard they’re omgus’ing him back.
Now that’s a good play. Except it’s not. I swear there’s something up with him but i don’t have any cred for going for blue. I will try to push my other theory instead.

i think there's a possibility he could be the neutral

 

[Stuart444]

i think there's a possibility he could be the neutral

then the question would be, what would his wincon be.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

my two neutral candidates are Zippy and Hecht

Hecht because the claim makes no sense and Zippy because that D1 play feels like trying to fulfil a condition somehow. not a win condition but a power activation one

 

[weemadarthur]

Agreed. But that doesn’t mean we should attack as a group lol. It’s a feeding frenzy in there.
I’m not gonna try to worry about neutral wincons either.

 

[weemadarthur]

Geez now Hecht wants the blue room!

 

[weemadarthur]

Has there ever been a lost scum that scum didn’t get told about??

 

[Stuart444]

I'm being very easy on Hecht right now. posting questions when I think of them and hoping for others to find holes.

 

[weemadarthur]

He’s trying to bribe town with the thought of a revive even though the dead players have been allowed into spec.
Say this or don’t say this??

 

[Kitsunelaine]

It would be unnatural of me to hold back considering I've gone all in with D1 and D2 with regards to who I'm talking to and what I'm talking about so if I laid off people would notice, which is why I went in on Hecht there. I gotta have consistent play even if I back away for a day due to RL reasons. I wasn't expecting y'all to go in on him as well lmao

 

[weemadarthur]

Lmao.
But he’s just SO darned scummy.

Anyway, should I draw attention to that or no?

 

[Stuart444]

Lmao.
But he’s just SO darned scummy.

Anyway, should I draw attention to that or no?

I'd say go for it. Never know.

 

[Stuart444]

I wasn't expecting y'all to go in on him as well lmao

lol, we just got lucky with that BP from GF which allows us to give some doubt to Hecht. :D it's why I'm trying to cast doubt on him at all today. If not for that, I'd be looking elsewhere for 'scum' reads lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

Well. Scum team moving entirely as a group is certainly not-current in the meta. Lol. Maybe it can help briefly.

 

[weemadarthur]

Anyway i’m just hoping we can pull some fun out of the rest of this game now. Y’all are fun to play with, and i gotta say, day two was amazing. I couldn’t believe the free info! Shame about our day ends, but really there’s so much noise there’s an utter lack of consensus.

 

[Stuart444]

I've already redeemed myself from my first scum outting where I played so badly that I got heavily bussed on D2 XD.

 

[weemadarthur]

Lol. Bus ya later!

 

[Stuart444]

Really trying to be wishy washy on purpose here.

"He might be scum but I'm not saying for sure he is HOWEVER look at these points".

Sow seeds of doubt.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Anyway i’m just hoping we can pull some fun out of the rest of this game now. Y’all are fun to play with, and i gotta say, day two was amazing. I couldn’t believe the free info! Shame about our day ends, but really there’s so much noise there’s an utter lack of consensus.

Honestly this entire game has been amazing. I think this is the first time I've played well in a game of Mafia at all. Of course it's as scum, so the majority won't see until the end... But yeah.

 

[Stuart444]

We are working well off each other which I think is a plus :D

 

[Stuart444]

Being careful of Hecht for now so currently voting for Stan. WSD might be an easy target either now or later which is why I'm not currently on a train with him.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

i think zipped might be tracker and may have tracked me n1

 

[weemadarthur]

Didn’t we track zipped on night one?

 

[Kitsunelaine]

he's still on me and thinks his health might be at risk if he outlines scum and town because that might reveal his role

that puts Hecht in the position of neutral

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Didn’t we track zipped on night one?

oh shit, did we?

 

[Stuart444]

oh shit, did we?

Yeah, I did so specifically because of his weirdness MOVE rooms each post.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Yeah, I did so specifically because of his weirdness MOVE rooms each post.

ah dang, then maybe he's not a tracker. Good to know.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Our track record for actually killing scum ourselves is poor

lmao

 

[Stuart444]

lmao

Not wrong though.

Only scum to be killed was via a Vig. (I seriously wonder if they have more than one shot t hough).

The other was accidental and not because of town.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

so I think if the discussion about whether or not godfather saw me means I'm going to have to wind up claiming at some point

if i do what should I claim

 

[Kitsunelaine]

the suspicion with regards to godfather is that he saw me doing something which would mean in the eyes of keen-eyed town i'd have to have some kind of PR

 

[Stuart444]

Thing is, you never moved towards GF. that is a fact. Someone else did.

You claiming that might mean someone calling you out.

Possibly (even though it's possible for several people to visit one person).

Just a thought to be safe.

 

[weemadarthur]

I’m so terrible at claim creation. I’ll try.

 

[weemadarthur]

“I never visited godfather’ is a true statement that doesn’t preclude anything else.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Thing is, you never moved towards GF. that is a fact. Someone else did.

You claiming that might mean someone calling you out.

Possibly (even though it's possible for several people to visit one person).

Just a thought to be safe.

Right, so that should be my mindset. But it's no good to have a simple "Nu-Uh", so I'll need to mull over ways to cast doubt on this line of attack.

 

[Stuart444]

Okay girls so:

In case I die tonight, aside from the obvious reads I've posted, I'm still wary of Hecht a little bit. Remember this.


Why? Partly cause tunneling grizzly was bad for town. Also, his claim just gives me weird vibes.


So watch him if he continues to vote poorly. He's not confirmed town yet.


For those doubting my claim, I'm not that devious. Glad I didn't have to out another PR, even though I'm not 100% certain they're town either.

This is the post that mentions Hecht, I can't see any other breadcrumbs. Any ideas?

We as scum have to assume there is some truth in what Hecht says as GF would likely have outed him if he claimed he didn't move.

 

[Stuart444]

Trying to figure this out so I might have an actual chance at tracking someone and seeing MOVEMENT DAMNIT.

 

[weemadarthur]

Who were godfather’s scum reads, anyway? We can use them as scapegoats.

 

[weemadarthur]

How about something about red, kits. You went ON about it all game, and now we know it was a double lynch room where we target our own room, right?

Something about getting a move from it?

 

[Stuart444]

Who were godfather’s scum reads, anyway? We can use them as scapegoats.

Hecht is the only one I can think of.

 

[Stuart444]

Okay girls so:



This is the post that mentions Hecht, I can't see any other breadcrumbs. Any ideas?

We as scum have to assume there is some truth in what Hecht says as GF would likely have outed him if he claimed he didn't move.

Okay guys, looking back at this quote.

Am I insane for thinking he chose the word Devious for a reason? Looking back, it's an odd word for people to use outside of scum chat (where we like to be devious XD)

 

[weemadarthur]

Gaining a spare ability along the lines of track/watch/motion detect
Motion detect is pretty good because it’s not very strong.

Or one shot watch since a self watch is pretty bland.

 

[weemadarthur]

Did he capitalize it, stu?

Also that concept is based on GF not being counterclaimed; but if splinter is it he might not have. So you could get countered.

 

[Stuart444]

Did he capitalize it, stu?

no but it's an odd word to use I feel and capital D would draw attention to it. If he was trying to be subtle, maybe... WSD visited him?

 

[weemadarthur]

If you say it in thread, give it major caveats and say it’s pretty weak. Self admitting you’re reaching is very town.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm going with the "I don't want to point it out (unless other people ask/think I should)" angle

 

[weemadarthur]

Holy crap taht post was hard to write since i CAN’T EDIT HERE i mean, ok i shouldn’t be ALLOWED TO, but i NEED to push the button to get the quote info. That destroys the reason for preposting my data! Ugh i can just use my private board i guess but gosh.

 

[weemadarthur]

*sigh*
I’m not really proposing a change to the setup format, brazil. Just whining as is my inalienable right.

 

[Stuart444]

Hecht feels too blase about this XD.

 

[weemadarthur]

I got nothin

 

[weemadarthur]

Maybe we should all have been acting like him, omgus forever, no other reads.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

i bet hecht's lying about only having one vest in order to try and trick us into targeting him

 

[Kitsunelaine]

I guarantee 100% that GF was not targeted for a kill the first night

sorry fam

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Trying to "save" a member of the scum team, even if it's something great like a roleblocker, is a huge fucking risk. Lo and behold, Kaz and Lux were not on the train. Shocker.

it worked but I'm still probably going to get screamed at for it post game lmao

 

[Kitsunelaine]

it's gonna be real interesting to get people's reactions to the other side of this game imo

 

[Kitsunelaine]

In retrospect I really dodged a bullet by not going after Hecht D2. probably one of my smarter plays to pretend to believe him

 

[Stuart444]

I've sown plenty of seeds of doubts. I'm laying off a bit now in hopes of others taking the mantle now.

 

[Stuart444]

Taking a risk now. Voting Hecht.

 

[Stuart444]

I will say, despite wee and kit (mostly the latter) being talked about, we do have quite a few lynch options atm. Depending on Devious' claim, we could have one more.

 

[Stuart444]

However, I do think that gives kitsunelaine, specifically, more town cred. It’s an odd word usage, which to me would usually indicate breadcrumb

Bingo hehehe

 

[weemadarthur]

Do you think one-shot motion detector, with the ability to earn a 2nd shot from the red room, and confirming motion on zippedpinhead N1, is a good role claim for kits?

 

[weemadarthur]

I left breadcrumbs for myself-as-team-cop, which I could use if it looked like I had an even-or-better chance of being lynched today.
Thoughts on that plan? It would be strongly committing to hecht being neutral, and could be countered by other cop styles, or directly counterclaimed.
Obviously only for emergency use.

I have no better plans for a claim for me, and cop is a terrible claim lol, but it’s all I’ve got.

 

[Stuart444]

I'm checking out until tomorrow. So tired lol.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Do you think one-shot motion detector, with the ability to earn a 2nd shot from the red room, and confirming motion on zippedpinhead N1, is a good role claim for kits?

that sounds like a fine thing to claim if I need to claim it

For now I seem to be skating by with other scummier targets that people need to look at

 

[Kitsunelaine]

note: these misunderstandings are genuine

 

[weemadarthur]

How’s it going? I just got home from work but ugh.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

It's going well for us

 

[Kitsunelaine]

town why are you so bad at not looking scummy

 

[Kitsunelaine]

i feel bad for piling on Hecht but i also feel like I'm doing a good job and the emotions are weirdly conflicting

 

[Kitsunelaine]

(and now that I know he's drunk I'll stop)

 

[Kitsunelaine]

i feel like i've been called an idiot or a moron a lot this game

i can't wait for people to see my flip

(well I can wait, until the end of the game)

 

[Kitsunelaine]

I legit can't believe how well today's going

 

[Kitsunelaine]

(i hope i'm not jinxing it)

 

[weemadarthur]

I’m not kidding about being busy tomorrow and if z beat claims as doctor i might be screwed. There won’t be much i can do about it tho.

 

[weemadarthur]

Ugh turmoil

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Currently I want to lynch you or kitsu, but kitsu is giving me huge "I can't believe scum would argue this" vives rn

my plan's working.

...only halfway though. I say we off Turmoil if we survive through the night

 

[Kitsunelaine]

if i somehow wind up the only scum left due to there not really being a possible way i can be scum, i'll carry the torch as best i can o7

 

[weemadarthur]

Ugh i’d love to shoot enima for hecht pushing. But i already played the game of fighting a turmoil who tunneled on me and i’m not free enough with time to do it again.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

Ugh i’d love to shoot enima for hecht pushing. But i already played the game of fighting a turmoil who tunneled on me and i’m not free enough with time to do it again.

i'd defend you but it'd make me look weird, sorry I can't help out more :(

 

[Kitsunelaine]

and one scum is officially safe

Congrats stu, you're officially living until D4

 

[Kitsunelaine]

If I get turboed while i'm sleeping, best of luck all

 

[Stuart444]

@Kitsunelaine if we both survive until tomorrow. I'll be throwing you under the bus.

Sorry <3

 

[Stuart444]

(and when I say that, I mean I'll be going very aggressively on you)

 

[Stuart444]

(like when I was going against Kaz)

 

[Stuart444]

I'm considering what my claim should be:

Alignment Cop: If I get counter claimed, I'm ded
Odd Night Cop: I checked Kaz on N1 and got scum, I checked Kitsu on N3 and got scum. - possible? But if I get counter claimed, eeps
Town Tracker: Basically a real claim and I claimed I checked Kaz and Kitsu and saw them do the attempted kill on N1(just I'll say they went after GF) and Kitsu does tomorrows NK.

Thoughts @weemadarthur and @Kitsunelaine

The only bad thing is how do I explain my survival?

Maybe 3-shot alignment cop.

N1: Kaz - Scum
N2: Devious: Town
N3: Kitsu: Scum

Besides that, it's all I've got.

 

[Kitsunelaine]

town reading devious may be a mistake. i'd hold of on claiming for a little while longer, you seem to be in a really good place

 

[Kitsunelaine]

also no hard feelings lmao just in case I might use my silence power tonight if I survive