Scum Thread The Morphogenetic Field

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
we may wanna try to turn that back round to room K, but that could also be me being gunshy
No need to worry. If I die now it’s the same plan except you need to be the one to earn town cred. I’m still pushing you to die so it would make you look good when I flip. You’ll NK Flux and then whoever would be hardest to argue should be excluded in the last phase.
 
We've actually done a really good job of separating ourselves, and you've tied yourself to Kopite real well

That might carry the day if we can just have Kopite excluded here. Do we wanna go after Flux to take him off the board immediately?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
We've actually done a really good job of separating ourselves, and you've tied yourself to Kopite real well

That might carry the day if we can just have Kopite excluded here. Do we wanna go after Flux to take him off the board immediately?
If I die you should kill Flux first. For the second kill I would say Sae or Apollo. That would be up to you based on how the previous day went and likely who else votes early to kill me.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm trying to think of a way to nudge Flux more towards Kopite for this phase, got any ideas?
I wouldn’t try anything that overt. You can vote for Kopite yourself if you think that’s the best argument you can make, but the victory may be reliant on you being Town read so you don’t want to do anything that seems like an attempt to protect me.
 
I wouldn’t try anything that overt. You can vote for Kopite yourself if you think that’s the best argument you can make, but the victory may be reliant on you being Town read so you don’t want to do anything that seems like an attempt to protect me.

I'm gonna bring up the room votes if people notice that I'm being more passive towards your arguments too - we voted for separate rooms and you and Kopite voted for the same one
 
I think I'm fairly town read, you're relatively suspect, but Flux can be swayed to either you or Kopite depending on where the wind goes
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm gonna bring up the room votes if people notice that I'm being more passive towards your arguments too - we voted for separate rooms and you and Kopite voted for the same one
That’s probably a good one to keep in your pocket for if I flip today to get Kopite excluded the next day.

I think I'm fairly town read, you're relatively suspect, but Flux can be swayed to either you or Kopite depending on where the wind goes
Yeah, but you don’t want to be the one to sway him. If enough people vote Kopite then he might go with it, but you don’t want to have posts that look like you trying to dissuade someone from voting me in case I flip.
 
That’s probably a good one to keep in your pocket for if I flip today to get Kopite excluded the next day.


Yeah, but you don’t want to be the one to sway him. If enough people vote Kopite then he might go with it, but you don’t want to have posts that look like you trying to dissuade someone from voting me in case I flip.

Yeah, I'm gonna wait to see what most people go for room-wise.

I'm definitely gonna keep that room vote for the next phase.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Vere going in on Flux, Kopite going to bat that we would never NK Zipped..

*chefs kiss*
 
If Flux tries to go rogue, try to convince Kopite maybe?

But I think he's all in on him now

I feel really shitty tbh :-/ I hate people arguing like that
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kopite insta-voted Flux?
Yes, but I just turboed Flux. He posted telling Kopite to vote me and he would turbo me so I had to quickly cut that off before I got lynched and cleared both. I’m dead as hell tomorrow though.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, but it’s better than me being lynched right now and you not being able to take both of them out. It is what it is. It’ll make Kopite and myself look suspicious as hell though so we may have the misexclude we need.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Wow that was something right there.

Congratulations Natiko surviving the Exclusion Phase.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Wow that was something right there.

Congratulations Natiko surviving the Exclusion Phase.
The moment he said he wanted to wait and see what I did and didn’t put a vote down I knew he was probably going to try and pivot to me. I gave him a chance to stick with his word, but alas... lol

When this shit ends I GOTTA see that damn room chat
It’s very, very short lol
 
Stuff so far:

2 No One votes, me and Vere

[QUOTE="Verelios]So, we're stuck here, we might as well start thinking of next phase. I'll put down my vote before I forget.

Vere quotes:


What does everyone think we should do if Kopite winds up Town or Scum?

If Kopite is town then I'd likely look at Natiko, Flux, Bronson and Sae next phase as possible scum.

If Kopite ends up scum then I'd feel better about Flux, neutral on Bronson, iffy on Sae and unsure where to go from there besides.

It still doesn't feel like Natiko and Kopite are Scum/Scum though.

This selection was, wow. I'd have to go over any possible connections with Kopite later to narrow down suspects.

Apollo quotes:

Natiko immediately deserves another look if Kopite flips town (I kind of could see it as scum/scum though tbh). Bronson would probably the next choice due to how things looked in the other first room, but I still get the feeling he’s town. I’d definitely take another look at Flux and Sae though yeah. I feel good about both of them and probably ought to re-examine why that is in light of the flips.

I think we're going to follow the plan
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So now we just need to make sure Kopite and I are both still under suspicion tomorrow and we’ll when regardless of the lynch order. We need to be attentive because if a single person places a vote on Kopite we need to be ready to turbo.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
The safer bet is that I will be lynched tomorrow, but hopefully I can do enough in that time to setup the final ME. Fingers crossed at least. If they do happen to go for Kopite first then awesome but I wouldn't count on that being the path forward.
 
Definitely note that you felt pressured by Kopite more than Flux if possible lol

We just need ONE Kopite vote and it can easily just be a “stick to the original plan” one
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Definitely note that you felt pressured by Kopite more than Flux if possible lol

We just need ONE Kopite vote and it can easily just be a “stick to the original plan” one
There’s only so much I can do since posts are allowed to be quoted. I’m just going to say Flux threw the game by deviating and I felt like he was scum trying to pivot back to his original plan of lynching me and then regardless of the outcome using that to lynch Kopite. I’ll push that I think my original team suggestions hold up still and to consider you for the lynch. Kopite will either also pick a random person to go for or he will flip on me and I’ll use that to cast suspicion on him by arguing he’s done a complete 180 now that there’s only one exclusion needed and that perhaps I was wrong after all. If we can just get Kopite flustered again like last day end we can maybe seal it early. Don’t do anything to defend me tomorrow. Like at all. You need to basically seem in disbelief/annoyed that the plan was tossed aside and talk about how both Kop and I look super scummy now
 
here's Sae's post

Vote: No One

If Kopite is indeed scum, then i'm gonna take a very close read on Nat. My eye is still on Vere as well, but less so after last day. His posts felt better to me.

If Kop flips town then i'd take a very serious look at Flux and Bronson. Flux pushed it really, really hard and Bronson has been extremely quiet the whole game. He was contributing a lot more on the Mansion game, actively trying to scum hunt.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Congratulations BronsonLee on passing the Exclusion Phase.

The Elimination Phase has begun. You will have until 3 hours to deadline to Eliminate someone.

Please use the command Eliminate: Player

(i forgot we weren't doing kills last time lol)

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I legit think we just need to pick whoever to focus on to get a Kopite vote, they're all locked in on him and Flux being killed is going to throw everything into absolute chaos

Apollo
Sae
Vere

Apollo reads:

Natiko immediately deserves another look if Kopite flips town (I kind of could see it as scum/scum though tbh). Bronson would probably the next choice due to how things looked in the other first room, but I still get the feeling he’s town. I’d definitely take another look at Flux and Sae though yeah. I feel good about both of them and probably ought to re-examine why that is in light of the flips.

Sae reads:

If Kopite is indeed scum, then i'm gonna take a very close read on Nat. My eye is still on Vere as well, but less so after last day. His posts felt better to me.

If Kop flips town then i'd take a very serious look at Flux and Bronson. Flux pushed it really, really hard and Bronson has been extremely quiet the whole game. He was contributing a lot more on the Mansion game, actively trying to scum hunt.

Vere reads:

What does everyone think we should do if Kopite winds up Town or Scum?

If Kopite is town then I'd likely look at Natiko, Flux, Bronson and Sae next phase as possible scum.

If Kopite ends up scum then I'd feel better about Flux, neutral on Bronson, iffy on Sae and unsure where to go from there besides.

It still doesn't feel like Natiko and Kopite are Scum/Scum though.

This selection was, wow. I'd have to go over any possible connections with Kopite later to narrow down suspects.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Faddy if we wanted maximum chaos can we turbo our eliminate? I want the double barrel shock of Flux's exclusion and ours to hit real fast
I suspect the answer will be no. I personally think we should eliminate Apollo. She is never going to be excluded, she's probably the most town read player left in the game. She favors both Kopite and I as scum. Someone will inevitably point that out and hopefully that'll be enough to doom both Kopite and I in whatever order.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
@Faddy if we wanted maximum chaos can we turbo our eliminate? I want the double barrel shock of Flux's exclusion and ours to hit real fast

I'm going to say no. The previous phase went too long for that imo.

Aand you haven't even submitted your choice yet.
 
I suspect the answer will be no. I personally think we should eliminate Apollo. She is never going to be excluded, she's probably the most town read player left in the game. She favors both Kopite and I as scum. Someone will inevitably point that out and hopefully that'll be enough to doom both Kopite and I in whatever order.

I'll roll with Apollo if you're good with it

I'm gonna come out with absolute fire and flames and ask why we deviated from the original plan and we should just stick to it

Flux fucked up soooooo bad lol
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
ELIMINATE: Apollo

Yeah, I think this is our best move. We just need everyone to decide scum is Kopite and I then it'll fall into place from there. Fingers crossed they go for Kopite first, but I suspect it'll be me since I voted Flux immediately after he lobbied to exclude me instead. I have some defense I can try and rely on, but I don't know if they'll buy it lol Really curious how Kopite is going to react.
 
I would honestly try to note that Flux went SUPER rogue and made it very clear he was ignoring everyone's instructions by trying to gun for you instead

And blame Kopite for his role in it as much as possible
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I do have Kopite's instant lobbying to exclude me, and the thing I'm going to argue is Flux threw the game by deviating from the plan he laid out. That as soon as he tried to pivot to me I was convinced it was because he was hoping to use that to get back to his original plan of excluding me and then excluding Kopite as he said my flip would not change his scumread of Kopite, but he did not say the opposite about Kopite's for me.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kopite:
@Natiko Should we vote Flux? You know you want to ;)

Flux:
Go right ahead. I'll even self-vote to turbo if I get a vote on me.

Kopite:
Vote: FluxWaveZ
Worth a shot

Flux:
Hm, well I was right about to, but I'd at least like to hear what Natiko has to say before I turbo. I'm not scum who is obsessed with self-preservation, saving face, and going against what we decided as a collective.

You're going to get what's coming, though.

Me (to Kopite):
That’s gonna be a no from me dawg

Flux:
I see.

Honestly, @Kopite, you just seem like heavily misguided town. And Natiko's decision to not go along with what you propose seems to be because he wouldn't want to implicate himself any further with things going absolutely wrong in this room. I came in here wanting to propose that we both vote for Natiko, since he's who I really wanted in the first place.

I said what I said in the thread, but I'm so much more sure Natiko is scum, so town will be fine if we diverted to a scum flip instead of someone who might be town with you.

Me:
Lol oh okay then. Have it your way scum.

VOTE: FluxWaveZ
 
Flux misplayed by not just putting in his regular vote and thinking he could just deviate from town wishes, but Kopite clearly tried to start it, you said no, and Flux played himself
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Flux misplayed by not just putting in his regular vote and thinking he could just deviate from town wishes, but Kopite clearly tried to start it, you said no, and Flux played himself
We just have to make sure town doesn't buy into the narrative Flux had ended up on that Kopite is town.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Natiko are you generally going to be around when the phase starts? I feel pretty strongly about trying to have people put votes down in the first hour or so.
Yeah I should be available. I’d be surprised if people go for it, but you can try haha
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
The deadline to change your mind has passed

Apollo will be Eliminated from the game.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Seems like they’re going for me. NK Sae and just pray you can get Kop or Vere to vote for one of the other. Remember how hard I pushed for you and reference that.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You may be able to use this altercation between Vere and Sae as something to point out that makes Vere look bad. Also point out that Vere was on you too. Only go that route if you don’t think Vere will go for Kop tomorrow.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Don’t let this talk spook you. You’ll be killing Sae and I’ll be dead today anyways. Their speculation isn’t going to get them anywhere since I’m obviously flipping scum.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Don’t let the talk of Vere and Kop scare you. If you kill one of them Sae is apt to pick up on it and go for you anyways. You just need to convince one of them I wouldn’t bus you so hard. Point out that Sae thought the push for you by Kop and I was coordinated.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kop and Vere both didn’t try to hammer me and you weren’t present so this looks good for you tomorrow if Kop doesn’t lay a vote
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kop only thinks this looks bad for you now, once I’m scum his tune will hopefully change tomorrow. I think he’s too cautious to place a vote. You can always place one on me to try and look good.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
YA BOIIIIIII.

I’m so sorry Kop, Vere, and Sae. Just know it was all an act. Love you so much don’t hate me.
 
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