Huh, i could have sworn i had made a earlier post going into my read on the masonsYou have done WHAT? You've laid out barely anything. Here are all your posts from D3 so far:
And you've not been disinterested in the game only D3, but generally pretty inactive. Which fits a SK in my experience.
I’ve spent a LOT of time wondering if Claude was a full vig and lying about it.I hate to even consider this but then again...
holy hell if some townie is hiding a PR here.
I'm not that dumb. I was considering being cagey about the shots I have left as a tactic to use my shot and bait a NK on a basically vanilla town that I would be at that point, but that was just some thought on D1. I've long discarded that since with mass claims it would just fuck up our conclusions.I’ve spent a LOT of time wondering if Claude was a full vig and lying about it.
He's too dodgey for me to do that. Even in a "one of you is lying" situation he has yet to try and find a way to prove that Claude is lying and only aims to vote for him for self-preservation. He seems much more interested in killing one of us on a future day, and not only is a future day guaranteed, but if we manage to make it that far, that WILL end the game.Partner of mine, I feel like voting for Roman. Wanna dissuade me from doing so?
This is not a fun position to be in.
I’ve spent a LOT of time wondering if Claude was a full vig and lying about it.
Really? Because that is a galaxy-sized throw. Assuming Claude shot twice, there is about an atom sized chance for SK to exist. MMCCDD makes 2T impossible, what makes this seed 0T and thus Roman is telling the truth as well.
Mr. Scum, comments like this are bad for one's health.
Honestly i have basically zero read on Claude outside thus whole SK thunderdome, and as i said i wasnt quite up to trawling back through the thread to find ways to prove its him.He's too dodgey for me to do that. Even in a "one of you is lying" situation he has yet to try and find a way to prove that Claude is lying and only aims to vote for him for self-preservation. He seems much more interested in killing one of us on a future day, and not only is a future day guaranteed, but if we manage to make it that far, that WILL end the game.
This is quite possibly the first genuine game-related comment you've said all gameSee this is why i avoid all the mechanics talk.
Its unhealthy ya hear.
Eat meThis is quite possibly the first genuine game-related comment you've said all game
That's not really a reason for anything. If people are busy they're busy. I've replaced into a neutral role before.My issue with Roman being SK, is he's a replacement, and who the hell passes on a chance to be the SK?
My issue with Roman being SK, is he's a replacement, and who the hell passes on a chance to be the SK? There's also the missing kill D1. The simplest answer there is that we're NOT missing a kill N1. I'm still not sold on claude though. I'm less sure now than I was when I voted earlier. I'm like 50% CLaude, 30% Roman, 20% the SK is a VT claim, and 10% the masons are liars(which doesn't matter cause we still need SK today)
Carl? You can't really trust people to be rational 100%. The claim would also have been fine if you and trevor had been anything but masons, right? Neither Claude nor Roman could guess that 2 of the remaining 4 unverified spots would be Masons who self verify. Not to mention this game style is confusing. Tommy is STILL getting it wrong, I was getting it wrong earlier today, and even you have doubted yourself and had to recheck your math on this to be sure we weren't making a mistake. In this scenario though, I think Roman is more scummy than Claude, cause Claude's claim makes less sense than Roman's.Explain how SK = vanilla claim works, because that to me feels so weird. That makes one of Roman and Claude mafia. Why would they claim a PR instead of a cuddly vanilla? Why claim a 1-shot doc? Why claim a 1-shot vigi that runs into a problem with the possible SK being in play?
Neither Claude nor Roman could guess that 2 of the remaining 4 unverified spots would be Masons who self verify.
It's foolhardy not to consider all angles.That's the point, if you can't guess it, don't do it. And expecting irrational plays is still pretty weird, regardless of the circumstances here.
It's foolhardy not to consider all angles.
You're so uncommitted that you simply unvote when somebody claims mafia instead of voting them? You and Tommy play really alike.That would be a really dumb claim for SK. Definitely kingmaker situation now.
Unvote
Its become pretty clear that i was likely to be lynched today and this way my team at least gets a fighting chance.Do not trust Roman. SK claims mafia to stay alive here. They cannot win if they die. This is the only play he has.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.It's foolhardy not to consider all angles.
I've uhh….never unvoted anyone. Literally ever. Ken Day 1. Stuck with it. Carl Day 2. Stuck with it. Claude Day 3. Haven't changed it yet.You're so uncommitted that you simply unvote when somebody claims mafia instead of voting them? You and Tommy play really alike.
Not specifically unvoting. Being non-committal. Catalina has called you out for it before and I agree with that callout.I've uhh….never unvoted anyone. Literally ever. Ken Day 1. Stuck with it. Carl Day 2. Stuck with it. Claude Day 3. Haven't changed it yet.
You realize that only one of us between me and Roman can be lying right? Since otherwise the setup wouldn't work and there couldn't be a SK.We're just throwing the game now. Probably GG to SK now.
And lol at me being uncommitted. We have to get SK to have a chance today. Think everybody forgot.
You realize that only one of us between me and Roman can be lying right? Since otherwise the setup wouldn't work and there couldn't be a SK.
Roman lied. He just admitted it.
Really showing your priorities here.
We have a lower likelihood of losing killing a scum this round than we do killing the SK in my opinionOh this is hilarious,
Im never going to stop making the joke that town wouldnt know scum if they literally introduced themselves now.
Never
The world where we're both lying is one where I can't be a SK because the goddamn setup doesn't allow it. So if Roman is proven to have lied, it is literally proven I DID NOT LIE.The only absolute truth was that you couldn't BOTH be telling the truth.
Oh. Odd. Words are words. Nothing more committal to me than a vote.Not specifically unvoting. Being non-committal. Catalina has called you out for it before and I agree with that callout.
Welcome, Roman! You're a Mafia Goon along with your partners
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Welcome, Trevor! You're a Mason!
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Nobody forgot. Roman being SK was more likely than mafia. Roman as SK doing a mafia claim as last ditch effort is more likely than mafia claiming 1-shot doc instead of vanilla.Yeah, we lost already. Now we're just kingmaking. Why did everyone forget we had to get the SK yesterday? Terrible.
Nobody forgot. Roman being SK was more likely than mafia. Roman as SK doing a mafia claim as last ditch effort is more likely than mafia claiming 1-shot doc instead of vanilla.
Because 4 people already agreed to lynch Roman before he made the claim? At that point anything goes to at least survive the day.Why would SK claim scum? That just lets scum know exactly who SK is, and they wanted him dead just as much as town yesterday. I was wrong about a lot too though.
I still blame Carl's death on myself too because I wanted to unvote him, but stupidly didn't realize the moment majority was hit the day would end. I thought we had enough time to keep discussing. At least those hard lessons are the ones you don't forget. And I agree about getting this over with.I just wanna get this over quick at this point. There's no point in dragging it out if we've already lost. Would have had better chances if we had gotten info from our cop instead of suiciding and if last night didn't turn out so unlucky.
Same. Rather give the SK the win at this point, I can respect that.Personally, I want to see Mafia lose.
Do shots resolve at the same time?Ok so technically there's a way for town to still win, if we exclude town and SK and scum shoot each other and SK doesn't have a BP that's a town victory
Opening post says they doDo shots resolve at the same time?
Hm, nice. Lynching me or no lynch would give town a chance to win then right?Opening post says they do
This isn't the best solution as scum or SK might accidentally target town so it reduces town win rate, best chance is for us to exclude the unconfirmed townIf so, that's easy. Just lynch me, my claim and the situation from yesterday makes me confirmed town otherwise the setup wouldn't allow for a SK.
Nope, that makes it easy for SK and Mafia to figure out who is who, since I'm confirmed :P The better thing is excluding mebest chance is for us to exclude the unconfirmed town
SK and scum need to know put the other one down to win, them knowing who each other are just makes it more likely that the town player isn't targeted.Nope, that makes it easy for SK and Mafia to figure out who is who, since I'm confirmed :P The better thing is excluding me
That's the risk I'm takingIf you don't have your BP anymore scum already knows that you're the SK, but it might have been just a doctor save
Yes without a doubt this play reduces my chance at winningI mean, at this point, Mafia knows who is the SK since you claimed Huang, and thus know who is town. In reverse you know that there's scum between Tommy and Franklin.
But if you both kill each other, don't you both lose?SK and scum need to know put the other one down to win
Scum hitting town instead of me decreases their chance of winning as I might hit town instead of them, they will definitely target me tonightBut if you both kill each other, don't you both lose?
But yes if both me and scum die, town wins and I'm fine with thatBut if you both kill each other, don't you both lose?
Well yes, but I don't quite get your play here. Didn't you doom yourself to lose with your claim? Scum needs to get you to win, and you need to get them. They know now who you are, while you don't know for sure who they are.Scum hitting town instead of me decreases their chance of winning as I might hit town instead of them, they will definitely target me tonight