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Discussion in 'Grand Mini Mafia V' started by Fireblend, Mar 6, 2019.
I may have a BP in which I survive
Is it normal for C9++ games that you don't get notified about losing your BP? Is that written in the rules somewhere?
So want to partake in this madness?
If you're telling the truth about the BP thing and you don't get notified, town might still win. If you're lying, you'll win instead of mafia. I'll take that.
OP states no notification unless necessary
I can respect bold neutral play
So Asuka is the only confirmed scum kill? Who town read me a lot. Yup, makes sense for me to kill her.
Claude, unvote you dumbass. We still have a chance with a no lynch. Why the fuck are you throwing the game?
Town or mafia, end this day, I don't care which
One sec, I'm writing a post up and then vote again, pretty sure it doesn't matter much whether we no lynch or lynch me
It's not completely hopeless. We just have to No Lynch.
Then, if scum targets a BP SK, and SK kills scum, we are 2v1 SK, and CLaude has to decide who to lynch. No pressure.
If SK is not BP, we could just win when they take each other out.
If either of them target town, we're still doomed, but that's no worse than lynching town today.
This may be one of the most self-defeating teams I've been on yet.
Vote: No Lynch
Yeah this works, oh wait I'll kill Claude
My way is the only way town can win
Ah, I forgot about the part where if scum targets BP and the SK hits scum we have another day.
Which makes you lose, so you won't do that.
Sorry but there's no way that's happening, I'm not giving you false hope
That at least makes the bad guys work for it. Decent chance you lost BP or never had it to begin with anyway. I don't understand why we wouldn't take every chance we can.
I lose if I kill scum, call it a revenge play
So what you're gonna do? Give Mafia the win?
Come the hell on, I forgot about the BP there, nothing else. We could still even win in that scenario, since Huang might not have it anymore.
This coming from the one who was still going for me yesterday after Roman claimed mafia and i was literally confirmed with that
This all makes so much more sense with how bitchy he was when I pointed out he was skating yesterday. Dunno why Claude wants to reward skating.
All a no lynch does is rule out a SK win scenario, it's actively aiming against me
Town has the most voting power so it's town at fault in this scenario
The hell does it matter whether we reward a skating SK or mafia? They're both anti-town.
@Franklin Huang is right that if we no lynch a SK loss is assured. He might well kill town because of that at night. Seems like lynching me is the better option to me.
And please don't talk about skating if you haven't done much scumhunting yourself lately.
If SK has BP -> tries to hit scum, scum hits SK, next day SK gets lynched
If SK has no BP -> both kill each other, town wins
We lynch me:
SK has BP -> tries to hit scum, scum hits SK, SK wins
SK has no BP -> both kill each other, town wins
With no lynch SK can't win so he might as well just target town to get back at us for no lynching. Which makes us 100% lose.
We exclude Claude:
SK has BP hits scum -> SK wins
SK has no BP hits scum -> town wins
SK has BP hits town -> Draw? Unsure
SK has no BP hits town -> Scum wins
Literally every outcome is possible, truly we're all winners
@Franklin or @TommyV vote me out to get this over with.
You better actually manage to hit scum Huang.
Nope. I'm not about to reward skating. It's everything that annoys me about our community. Hopefully Tommyv agrees.
Lynching Huang makes literally town 100% lose, and you complained about the most self defeating team lmfao
And I don't see much difference yesterday in activity between you three. The actual scumhunting was done mostly by our masons and me.
==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Claude (2 votes)
Huang - #1004
Claude - #1005 #1012
Claude - #1030
Huang (1 votes)
Franklin - #1034
Not voting: TommyV
Claude: 39 Huang: 19 Franklin: 10 TommyV: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Franklin you're either scum or you're really not understanding our situation here.
And if you're scum, there's really no scenario here where you win, just accept it. The only thing you can hope is Huang misses.
@TommyV end this farce already please
Also 99% sure Franklin is scum at this point
Mad at us killing Roman when we "should have gone for the SK" (which meant we had to decide the SK between three people shortly before Day end and leave mafia alive)
Wanted us to no lynch which makes town 100% lose and give mafia the win
Now wants to lynch Huang which makes town also 100% lose
If you don't think I was trying to help town yesterday, I have no idea what to tell you. Do you somehow think Huang, the confessed SK had your interests in mind? Literally everybody else should have been acting in concert yesterday against him. Town is fucked either way and you're taking the lazy way out which makes me care even less about our welfare, so the only thing left to me is punish the play-style I despise most. Huang only became active yesterday when he was under threat. I missed nearly an entire day thanks to vacation and still posted more than him, and almost as much as Tommyv. This is Godafather, btw, so if you know me, you know I'm absolutely capable of not giving a shit at this point, and just policy lynching people.
Click for More!">Catalina: 149
Click for More!">Trevor: 129
Click for More!">TommyV: 89
Click for More!">Franklin: 85
Click for More!">Roman: 61
Click for More!">Huang: 56
Click for More!">Niko: 55
Click for More!">Asuka: 49
Click for More!">Carl: 47
Click for More!">Lance: 43
Click for More!">Michael: 27
Click for More!">Ken: 20
This is literally my last post of the game. I'm fucking fed up with it. @TommyV Have at it, man. I don't envy you.
Pretty self-defeatist of a supposed town member who just criticized town for being self-defeatist
Literally putting a "policy lynch" over a possible town win?
Yeah I don't buy it
Also get outta here with this acting like you were sure Huang was the SK yesterday. You weren't sure. You sure as hell didn't advocate for it. All you did was doing throwaway "WE NEED TO GET THE SK!!!" posts after Roman claimed mafia, nothing else.
This is either rivaling Carl in self-defeatism as town or just scum acting mad because town won't fall for tricks. I'm guessing the latter.
That's also all from me, waiting for Tommy now.
I mean....I really have no power at this point do I? I can't push Huang into majority. I can kill Claude. Or I can novote, which also won't make anything happen. All I really have the power to do at this moment is end the day by a vote for Claude, right?
Yep, you either end the day by voting me or support the Huang vote and the day will go on for another 46 hours.
So I'd recommend to just vote me.
I completely see where you are coming from, and I hate skating by as well. However, I can't hold it against a player for staying back in the shadows as much as allowed by the rules. For me, skating is 100% on the rest of the players who let it happen. So yeah, it sucks, but that's on all of us for not driving people out of the shadows more. And I'm not saying some didn't try.
All I know at this point.... we getting revenge for Lamar and my god damned punch.
@Stuart444 @Fireblend Turbo
Day 4 Ends
(closing the thread and will get the flip up as soon as possible)
damnit, forgot to close the thread lol.
The remaining players pointed guns at each other. Seeing who would blink first.
"..." Claude takes the first shot by hitting himself with his bat over his head.
"What are you doing man?" Franklin asked, "What the hell..."
"If you want to die so badly, here," Tommy shot at Claude, killing him.
Claude has died
Night ends whenever all commands have been submitted.
"You know what? I'm outta here man. Ya all are fucked up in the head" shouted a frustrated Franklin as he began walking away.
Franklins body falls down lifeless.
"Well, I guess he had it coming," came the words of Tommy as he watched Huang kill Franklin in cold blood.
Franklin has died
"What now - URGH", Tommy falls to the floor, "fuck you... Huang".
TommyV has died
"All that killings made me hungry. Guess I'm off to Burger shot now for some well deserved burgers"
Huang walks off, proud of himself as the camera pans away.
"Man, that was both boring and fun. The talking was boring but the killing was fun... guess I'll let the credits play out while I read up on more GTA mods to play" and with that, the player begins looking for mods as the credits roll
Huang has won
Franklin - Godfather
Roman - Swamped and then StanleyPalmtree
Trevor - Fantomas and then Z-Beat
Michael - Olinad
Huang - Aeleus
Niko - Kitsunelaine
TommyV - Vincent Alexander
Carl - WhySoDevious
Asuka - Sorian
Lance - heymonkey/Dr. Monkey
Catalina - Kyanrute
Claude - Muffin
Ken - Lone_Prodigy
Really? Fucking over town by killing Tommy was more important than killing Huang, which could have still led to a win for mafia if Huang chose Tommy?
Well it's not like our chances for winning were high here, so I guess it doesn't matter much.
Good game everyone.
Franklin submitted No Kill
Huang shot Franklin.
Huang also still had their BP.
So it was an auto SK win.
Ah good to know.
Still, No Kill is giving up just as much. I just don't know why you would do that.
But whatevs, with the BP in the game it was predetermined anyway.
Nailed that protection N1 but couldn’t protect against two kills, oh well.
It was to give a win to town if they were smart enough to go for the SK. I had it put in before the last day ever ended. Scum team was handicapped from the start, and still almost pulled it out. No way Sk deserved a win more. Good job on rewarding lazy play town.
Honestly just sad Huang went the boring route. That just ruined the whole game for me to completely remove all pretense of choice from town. The odds of 2, but not 3, of the last three role slots being MM were less than 1%. I'm not sure we woulda got Huang when we needed to, but town was definitely hosed without that luck. Never played a game where it felt like everything was so unearned.
Oh damn you did cover Lance? Nice choice. We killed you cause you were the only one who seemed to realize D1 weirdness is because I was on vacation, and roman1 was MIA as well.
Congrats, Aeleus, on the win!
Sorry for subbing out everyone, just wasn't really feeling motivated in this game after a while, not as much as I normally feel anyways. Thanks Z-Beat for stepping in.
As much as I probably will want to play in one of the upcoming games, I think I might need to take a break and just try to not think about Mafia for a while. This game felt weird to me for some reason, and seeing as how there wasn't really anything strange about it actually, it was probably just a me thing, so I'll try to just stay away from games and spec threads for the rest of the season and maybe play again in a few months if I feel better about it.
*Cut to me enthusiastically signing up for the next game anyways because I'm weak and addicted, fuck me*
I don't think town should or would ever assume that mafia would reward them.
@Aeleus congrats on the win. It's your second game and you won as a neutral Serial Killer. That's pretty damned impressive to me.
So well done.
Oh, the seed for the game. so funny thing
@Fireblend was explaining to me how the seed stuff worked and gave me an example one
but it was just so good that we went with it instead of rolling another one.
I'm quite happy with it.
I was off track a little bit because I went for occam’s razor and just assumed Ken roleblocked me so I was looking for people who would have had the idea to roleblock me which looked like only Catalina and Trevor which was totally right but they were masons not scum.
I didn't really search for identities this game tbh, I thought it would have been just a waste of time.
Was only sure Asuka was Sorian, lol.
I enjoyed the hot minute where everyone thought I was Trevor but that didn’t last long.
Congrats @Aeleus on your win! Very well deserved!
Is there a full list of who was whom?
Nm, I saw it. Damn, @Lone_Prodigy , sorry we couldn't pull this one off like MGS. I almost asked for a replacement when I saw I was scum and knew I was gonna be bust that weekend. I was at a board gaming convention in Vegas thursday-sunday night.
@heymonkey Sorry we killed you N1. I was happy to be in a game with you but didn't know who you were. I actually sorta thought Lance might have been Sorian.
Let me just say this about D1:
If there were no costumes in this game, and I knew it was between 2 new players and LP, I keep my vote on LP 10 times out of 10, that's a fact.
(No offense LP, but I've never even seen you as Town lol)
Glad to see the costumes fulfilled their purpose of placating the meta at least a tiny bit :P
lol, and I would never have voted new players D1 either. That's just policy, me being scum or not.
I'm glad we had costumes then, lol.
Thanks everyone. This was in fact my first game of Mafia ever, and most of you weren't TOO mean about it! But seriously, I hope I wasn't too much of a nuisance in the game. Honestly, my biggest confusion was the costumes. Genuine question: what's the point of costumes if folks aren't role-playing? Is it just because you've all played so many times you have a feel for how you each play or something...? My biggest fuckup was without a doubt Carl getting excluded. I genuinely was going to pull my vote, but didn't realize once majority hit that the day would end...maybe that was my biggest fuckup.
First of all, I think you did great in this game being your first time! You were really doing great on D3 when you put together that pool of 4 players where only one was actually Town, you were completely right about that.
To your question: Yeah, that's definitely part of it. In my first game, there were multiple times where people kept bringing up past games and how they played in them, and I had no reference for that at all. Now of course, it's one of my favorite things to do. And also, as commented on above, just having kind of policy things like "Don't vote out new players on D1" which, obviously, we weren't able to apply to this game.
I hope you sign up for another one in the future because it was fun playing with you and I'd like to play with you again!
That's it exactly. There's a metagame aspect to most of our games that is about how someone played in game X or Y, and sometimes it's nice to be able to play without that baggage. For people who feel like they get "typecasted" it can be liberating and for those who feel like they have others "figured out" it can be an interesting challenge :)
Much appreciated! I think I'll definitely sign up again. I just hope that people are uhhh….a little less hostile next time. I understand this stuff gets heated, but there is a difference between heated and being condescending. It didn't happen a ton (and none towards me), but it deflated the room a few times. But yeah, I'll sign up again. Definitely had a good time chatting it all out with you in the game, and a bunch of others too.
I would like to say it won't happen but it will.
1. if it gets too much, the gamerunner should say something but if not,
2. message the gamerunner about it because they may not have seen it yet.
Things can get heated a bit sometimes yeah, I think this game had tensions running a bit higher than normal at times for whatever reason, so I wouldn't hold this as a normal case. That being said, as Stu mentioned, the gamerunners can and will step in if things get a bit out of hand, which they did here, and they can and will remove people from the game as well if it becomes too much, which they didn't have to do here luckily.
The good thing is we all hug at the end of the game though and stay a big happy family as best we can.
Though we also secretly plot our revenge against those who have wronged us the most!
*Scowls at Dr. Monkey and Natiko*
I played like trash, sorry I let you and Roman/Stan down. I was looking forward to the costumes letting me play a little differently but I had to roll scum and that may have let my emotions get the better of me.
I was neutral once!
There are layers of hilarity to this. But after d1 EoD, I expected to die. I just didn't expect to die quite so hard.
Also, Catalina was KYAN???? Holy SHIT. I would have never guessed that one ever. Wow. I thought Kyan was maybe Huang.
Stu, Febe, thanks for organizing this!
I also wanted to say big ups to our newer players for making it through a costume game. Costume games can be a real challenge for everyone. @Olinad, I tried to save you! @Vincent Alexander, @WhySoDevious, @Aeleus (already imitating people, dang), thanks for hanging through this.
I had no idea if I was any good or not, but I definitely had fun playing with you all. Good game you guys.
c o n f i r m e d t o w n
Btw I soft claimed/breadcrumbed in my very first post
LP in Cluedo (my first scum game) had me sweating, but I think that was one of the last times I saw him as town, lol.
Subbing in at the time I did was like walking into a house on fire. Fun though, ahaha
Whoops, still in the other account