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Saenima would also be a surprise though and would scupper some stuff.

I can't decide whether taking out wee would clear up the filthy thing or blow that up even more.
 

Ty4on

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messing too much up tho will aid discussion which can make them think clearer

right now they are NOT thinking clear so we want that to continue :)
 

Ty4on

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Saenima would also be a surprise though and would scupper some stuff.

I can't decide whether taking out wee would clear up the filthy thing or blow that up even more.
yea, and seems like an ok player, but without any obvious connections

there is a dual connection to me tho with fanto and saenima
 

Ty4on

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heh, shame VA is getting a bit town read today

getting enemies lynched is a great way of getting rid of them covertly haha
 
We didn't whittle this list down at all.

I think we go big.

Then keep tonight's kill a low poster.

It suggests that the day killer isn't the same killer as scum.
 
Ah dude, this isn't helping XD

If we go big kill - wee. Wee will possible have protection during the night phase and we can't use strong kill until tomorrow.

If we go low-poster then someone like LP, Absolut, or Edge (but people are starting to make scummy noises about Edge right now but that might make the day kills look like a well-intentioned vig)
 

Ty4on

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my votes are btw not tactical in the slightest, it's just who do i "feel" is scum in my neutered, pseudo town presence
 

Ty4on

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just a crazy feeling :S:S:S:S

glglglglglglgllgl, don't blame yourself if you get it wrong, 100% reason to blame me :D
 

Ty4on

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oh man this brazil fire

it just... mmm, feels good
and we got a bunch of people voting shading kopite so he'll probably be the counter wagon
 
So I'm starting to worry that we really are the only 2.

For a while I was convinced there was another group out there but I do think it's just us.

Curious though in case there are more neutrals
 

Ty4on

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So I'm starting to worry that we really are the only 2.

For a while I was convinced there was another group out there but I do think it's just us.

Curious though in case there are more neutrals
I really don't understand this setup to be honest lol

fanto's role hints at there not really being a lot of killing roles or else the game ends before he's done
 

Ty4on

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I like the reaction we got from the thread btw

Assumptions it was a townie and groans because they all had Kalor as lean town
 

Ty4on

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Ty4on

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Hmm, why would discussing a kill that had been telegraphed earlier in the day be worth talking about when said person who telegraphed it was the vote leader at the time of the shot? I wonder. YOure right, waste of time.

/s
Is Sorian secretly on our team? o.O
 

Ty4on

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I'm gonna spend all night looking for that aren't I :D

it just popped into my mind and I was like "hey, that kinda makes sense" and I guess it is sorta bastard
 

Ty4on

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Wee has admitted to trying to crumb mafia and now THIS

You're also a mean person, ty. What did I ever do to you. *sobs*

ok, focus tho. we can look at this tonight, now just be normal and let townies be lynched :)
 
Cool cool.

Also we haven't interacted at all so I may gently quiz you on your kopite vote if you're okay with that?

Don't want either of us to land each other in it but we've been at arms length so far.
 

Ty4on

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i'm just casually stepping away from this worthy lynch even tho I town read him pretty hard

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Haha sorry I got thoroughly distracted and failed to call you out. I'll make sure we talk in thread tomorrow.

Yeah this is incredibly satisfying the way that shot went. I feel bad for kopite though. However, we could probably get some mileage out of this so good that we're both on different sides of the kopite votes
 

Ty4on

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Wee and especially Sorian are pushing mislynches.

We are very few, so something is very strange with this setup.
Solution 1: We have multiple mafia teams one way or another.
This doesn't make much sense right now. We have only one kill unaccounted for and it looks like Fantomas'. At the same time another mafia faction with kills means it's super likely the game ends before Fantomas had the chance to eat three people.

Solution 2: There's another, strong, 3rd party.
Strong means they can kill which seems a bit iffy. We are also still waaaaay too weak with only 2 members in a 22 player game.

Solution 3: There's a cult.
In game setups with a cult of this size the mafia time is usually a lot bigger, they are already the same size as us (plus 1 tonight) if things went as plannes. This just makes cult seem super strong and mafia still absurdly small.

Solution 4: We're not alone and have friends.
There is nothing in our role PM about it and nothing really hinting at it, but there seem to be people out there that want us to survive. No mention of it for us would make it bastard.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Traitor

I can't come up with much more.
 

Ty4on

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Aeleus and saenima are sticking out as somewhat town read, but also productive and stuff.
Chugger seems fairly townread, but he's so far not been a big threat and looks kinda vanilla-y to me.
 

Ty4on

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Note that Sorian and Wee have both claimed dirty/whatever and couldn't be killed by Fanto. Sorian's seemed less serious FWIW.
Sorian said:
This all feels very hypocritical. So since we are assuming things, Fanto was a neutral, he was a baby version of a serial killer (because he could win with a faction). The answer here is that town and scum both had protected members from the serial killer so that neither team could be ravaged by the neutral kills too much.
I'm unprotected and I assume you are too.
 

Ty4on

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[he/him] TheChuggernaut - CST
Creeping up on my list, but his reads are kinda not quite going there and he's often following others. There's also a fair bit of people voicing a will to lynch him.

[he/him] Lone_Prodigy - EST
Surprisingly town read, but I still think he's lynchable. Imagine if he survives till lylo, most townies are gonna go "damn, I feel like he just coasted to lylo".

[he/they] saenima - GMT
Fairly independent thinker. Followed yesterdays lynch because they were unavail for most of the day and chose the one with the most townies on it. This to me means they are really gonna have a closer look at everything tomorrow.

[he/him] EzekelRAGE - CST
Vanilla. He's more pokey and idependent than Chugger, but still doesn't seem that threatening compared to his post count.

[they/them] Aeleus - BST
Very few posts and a pretty clear lynch target.

[he/him] Kopite - GMT+8
Also a lynch target.

[he/him] AbsolutBro - EDT
Less of a lynch target. He's someone I wanna get rid of, but it'd look a bit suspicious and despite his reads being damning he's not someone really rallying town so he's not doing that much damage now.

[he/him] Faddy - UTC+1
Faddy feels like a friend in a few weird ways. It's the lightest of the bunch, his predecessor asked what bastard while the role PM should've then said something was amiss. What makes me find him friendly tho is just how nice his reads of us are and how he attacked Verelios in a way for attacking you.

[he/him] Rover - EST
Lover?

[he/him] Vincent Alexander - CST
I almost wanted to NK him because that self vote is weeeeeird as scum unless you know it ties, but yeah.

[any] Sorian - PST
Please be friend :(
He's pretty much never brought up my name and I never found him mentioning you. He's also always pushing townies to lynch.

[he/him] Comrade Doggo Sparky - GMT-5
Lover?

[they/she] weemadarthur - CST
Friend? :(
She openly discussed a lost partner, made a hypothetical of her flipping as one.

[he/him] Brazil - GMT-3
Lynchable? I guess it looks a bit strange to kill him too.

[he/him] Olinad - PST
Lynch target?
 

Ty4on

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Next night I wanna poke with my investigation to see if that does something to those I find "friendly"
 
I think VA might be a good NK because some people are really pushing the self-vote as scummy but I think the majority will back off.

From a really evil angle, this will paint some of the v angry people (Brazil) in a bad light.

Teehee
 
My reads are going to be of v poor quality this EoD. Apologies for this, I'll scrape it back tomorrow.

I also have another hospital visit with my Papa at the same time tomorrow so I'll probably put a kill down fairly early in the night phase and be fairly AWOL for the rest, sorry. LP or Absolut or to be honest, maybe even Aeleus. Again, don't want to waste a strong kill on a quieter person.

Also happy to just trust you with whoever you want to check this night phase. I reckon you're right on going for someone who looked like they could be a possible ally. Wee or faddy probably.
 

Ty4on

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My reads are going to be of v poor quality this EoD. Apologies for this, I'll scrape it back tomorrow.

I also have another hospital visit with my Papa at the same time tomorrow so I'll probably put a kill down fairly early in the night phase and be fairly AWOL for the rest, sorry. LP or Absolut or to be honest, maybe even Aeleus. Again, don't want to waste a strong kill on a quieter person.

Also happy to just trust you with whoever you want to check this night phase. I reckon you're right on going for someone who looked like they could be a possible ally. Wee or faddy probably.
don’t think about it, just take care
 

Ty4on

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My reads are going to be of v poor quality this EoD. Apologies for this, I'll scrape it back tomorrow.
You’re in excellent standing in the thread, one of the, if not the most town read person right now. Don’t worry about it and don’t be afraid of asking for a replacement if you’d rather spend your energy elsewhere.

Sending good thoughts your way.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
All the best to you and yours GoG. If you need to step away from the game for any reason please do not feel bad to ask.
 

Ty4on

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Sorian vote pretty sure he’s lying (first post) – (To Kalor) Bread crumb joke – Backtrack, looks like fishing Kalor and unvote – joke – sorian vote joke – bread crumbing not town because vanilla can’t (!!!!!) – joking a bit – agrees with Sorian’s claim, doesn’t like it – Fluffy with Rover about Sorian - “I’m always town” – ‘It does seem weirdly early to be all "Fuck it, I'm getting killed."’ – townreads Sorian still, doesn’t seem too scared of getting killed – sparky reaction – LP can post little while Brazil is killed doing same – neutral ish on both – very fluffy with Wee, seems comfy there – defends from Brazil saying he did it because there wasn’t much going on D1 so you just grab stuff – defends from Brazil about talking about him being silent equal scum in a way, but Brazil is quite reaching – fluffy with Sorian – 180s, thinks Brazil is really reaching – credits Kopite for making him look that way – talks about why not to lynch Sorian, jokes about the possibility he could be a cult leader – quite calmly arguing with Brazil, but pressing – still a bit frustrated at Brazil – doesn’t wanna vote Brazil, actions too strange for scum – memories of cult Sorian – always scum reads turmoil – inactive after 1545 – reappears 1815 – fanto weird – thinks fanto’s excuse is ok – nothing specific to scumread fanto, just different, so his excuse makes a lot of sense to him – finds turmoil weird – inactive after 1930 – reappears 215 – votes turmoil, thinks Vere looks like another game where he misread him scum so doesn’t wanna vote there – turmoil post not inspiring - edge is sneaky, keeping a look but not voting atm – not interested in rover/sparky – sparky always claims – doesn’t like faddy, thinks he should know better about Vere – doesn’t like Kopite’s vote on vere –
 
Also I think for the day kill we need someone that causes a bit of a fuss. They think it's a town day vig so I'm tempted to go VA. Make it look like scum-hunting
 

Ty4on

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Hmmmm...

You think he's neutral or a PR then?

I can use the strong kill on him tonight if you want?
Oh no, it’s just some notes I deleted because I turned off the computer lol

My only conclusion was possibly vanilla, but I’m less sure now.
 

Ty4on

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My chuggernaut notes switch between his thoughts and mine, started off as a summary of everything he had posted.
 

Ty4on

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Wee could turn into a pretty big target tomorrow because of the Brazil flip making her smelly claim suspicious.
I don’t want that :(

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I’ve been toying with the idea that we have lost scum and trying kill them recruits them. The reason is this gives Fantomas extra time to finish the job.
I don’t wanna test it tho lol
 

Ty4on

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Should I be lynched today and leave you alone I think it could be a decent strategy to replace your night kill with the day shot when possible. Generally day shot doesn’t have have counter (tho there definitely could be one, in one game Sorian gave me a cage to throw over someone that worked through the day and night as a roleblocker until I moved it to someone else) so it gives you extra strong kills and the lack of a kill at night can be confusing and give PRs false information (my block/heal must’ve worked).
 
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