Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite

I want to claim vanilla, but I'd be worried about being called out for moving last night. We couldn't be seen N1, didn't move N2 so it's basically just last night. Seems like a somewhat low chance, but might it be worth claiming something low tier?
 
If you all feel confident enough that you can win with Fat and I dying, we could claim Watcher to draw out whoever the watcher is. I suspect Rac is waiting for everyone to claim because he has information on at least some of us still alive.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If you all feel confident enough that you can win with Fat and I dying, we could claim Watcher to draw out whoever the watcher is. I suspect Rac is waiting for everyone to claim because he has information on at least some of us still alive.
Eh, no need to do that. I’m sure he’s the movement PR at this point. No need to draw him out. Either claim vanilla or come up with a fake PR that could explain movement. Frankly though I suspect if you had been seen moving for the kill last night you’d have already been exposed.
 
what name did you and Terra take Natiko? (Or vice versa?) Thinking of claiming nurse (i.e., backup doctor) and going with the Pokemon names.
 
Is backup doctor worth claiming in case we were spotted, or should we just claim vanilla? I feel like the number of vanilla is kind of low.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Is backup doctor worth claiming in case we were spotted, or should we just claim vanilla? I feel like the number of vanilla is kind of low.
You only moved once and it was for the kill. If you were seen claiming doc won’t make a lot of sense anyways and you’re toast. I don’t think you’re going to get voted out today regardless so vanilla might be best as to not rock the boat.
 
Just going to claim vanilla then :-\ I would wait for Fat4all, but the game thread is getting antsy and I'm hoping this will move things along.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Did not expect that outcome. Still feel like PR wise we got shafted. Oh well. Kill rac/VA I..guess? They won’t get any power tonight, but knowing our luck if we wait they get the next lynch correct and become BP or some shit.
 
Feel like it should be Zipped/Fanto. They're the dedicated tracker. We can always RB RacXander if they get a power. If we RB FantoHead they will know they were RBed.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If we kill rac/VA tonight using Ab/Fat who we think would be the one scum left we can afford to lose then worst case they get voted out which is already likely based on Rexbro flipping town. Then we can kill Fanto the next night before he can reveal anything useful. Then town has nothing left of use except the gossips, but fingers fucking crossed they’re neutral and bounce tonight.
 
If we kill rac/VA tonight using Ab/Fat who we think would be the one scum left we can afford to lose then worst case they get voted out which is already likely based on Rexbro flipping town. Then we can kill Fanto the next night before he can reveal anything useful. Then town has nothing left of use except the gossips, but fingers fucking crossed they’re neutral and bounce tonight.
Agreed on this. Though alternatively CSLP could probably get away with killing rac/VA, but that's clearly far more risky of a move.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Agreed on this. Though alternatively CSLP could probably get away with killing rac/VA, but that's clearly far more risky of a move.
Yeah, they probably could but I don’t even want to risk it. Same for the block. If we just let the rest of everything play itself out we should be okay. I can’t see them killing CS/LP before we get enough people voted out.
 
Terra and Nat you guys are killing it and holding it down holy shit
All of us are putting in so much work. I love it. This is one of the better coordinated scum teams I've played on.

Our only problem now is that we need more of us to be active. LP in particular I don't recall posting much at all and definitely deserves a prod.
 
Aw thanks Terra.

Early on I def was thinking we should kill Rac but I forget what was his claimed role ended up being by time I came to post. So yay me.

Still movement trackers def seem the route to go for some sliced necks.
 
If everyone active on scum came in and turboed to kill Xbro, and we pull kill off tonight, do we win?
Like I said in the thread, we get put into Lylo if the Xbro lynch goes through (assuming our kill doesn't get blocked from some crazy freaking way). So we need two more mislynches before we're golden.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Fanto said:
Here we go, my mind is just racing right now, so let's see if anyone can keep up with me:


If Natiko and Chugg are in on this, they jumped off of bussing Bae to bus their other Scum mate, who Bae would later fake claim a green check on. Natiko would then spend the first part of the next day arguing that Ty/AB, his partners in this world, are Scum, before the fake green check comes out on them from his other partners, Bae/Malus. He and Terra also argue with Bae about all of her claim stuff during D2, putting on a hell of a show for us I guess.


How far down this rabbit hole do we want to go?


Ok, now let's say it's Xbro/Reki voting for their Scum Partner, Ty/AB. Who else is bussing here on D1? Still Natiko/Terra and SkyChugg, so they all piled on their partner? Or just one of those two? Or is it Monkey/Stu being Scum with Bae/Malus, Ty/AB, and Xbro/Reki? So Monkey has already hard bussed Bae/Malus, and is currently hard bussing Reki/Xbro. And also Bae fake green checked Ty/AB in this world too, never forget this. Or else it's my nightmare scenario, Monkey/Stu, Natiko/Terra, Ty/AB, and Bae/Malus, which makes me jump off a bridge.


There are so many fucked things going on in the world where Ty/AB is scum that I am just so not into it.


And sure, apply that to all of my above rambling as well I guess.
:eyes::eyes::eyes:
 

Fat4all

SCIENCE DOGGO
hello, it’s me, the dead dog

well not dead, just injured

sorry I’ve been gone for a while, I fractured my flipping ankle
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Nat if you get us killed I am going to lol all the way to spec thread, just FYI.
Don't worry, even if it happens we should be fine. Terra and I will have super town cred and even if not they aren't touching CS/LP.

Would be nice if we got a replacement in so you and them can vote defensively. Or if LP would like..play the game to vote with CS.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Terraforce Tomorrow isn't lylo? As town - if you assume the worst case scenario of 3 remaining scum it goes:
3-8 Right Now
ML NK
3-6
ML NK
3-4 LYLO D6
 
I made that last post before I was fully caught up. The Fat4all votes were puling up at the same time and I got scared for a sec.

And I keep thinking we're 3-7 since I thought we said in here we only needed two more mislynches, so yeah my numbers are off.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I made that last post before I was fully caught up. The Fat4all votes were puling up at the same time and I got scared for a sec.

And I keep thinking we're 3-7 since I thought we said in here we only needed two more mislynches, so yeah my numbers are off.
Yeah, that's if kyonna are neutral and leave the game tonight like they "joked" about. No clue if they are or not.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Now is the time to decide between rac/VA and Fanto/Zipped. Here are my thoughts again:

If we kill rac/VA tonight using Ab/Fat who we think would be the one scum left we can afford to lose then worst case they get voted out which is already likely based on Rexbro flipping town. Then we can kill Fanto the next night before he can reveal anything useful. Then town has nothing left of use except the gossips, but fingers fucking crossed they’re neutral and bounce tonight.

But I'm open to discussing it for sure. I think I'm strongly against killing outside of that group though.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Also am not interested in using the block at all, but if you disagree we can discuss that too.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Looking forward to hearing how Xbro came up with that thread count. I genuinely have no clue how you would do that without going into the admin panel and I'm an OM mod lol Whatever he did will probably have to be looked into to prevent going forward, though his math didn't check out so who knows what he was even seeing.
 
Don't worry, even if it happens we should be fine. Terra and I will have super town cred and even if not they aren't touching CS/LP.
haha, all good all good. I was just actually laughing that the majority of pressure on my boat has come from you and Terra.

Anyways, yeah, either rac/va or the trackers should die tonight. I would say rac/va, since their power is a bit more unknown than Fantohead's motion tracking. We could roleblock whichever team we don't kill, but honestly I'm not sure why we would. I do not 100% believe Fanto's description of their power. That sounds super weak since it's doesn't really say anything about anything, just basically says "hey, something happened" or "something didn't happen". With what we know of the remaining town powers, I think we've been pretty lucky to get the Vig and the Doctors as early as we did.

I did not expect the turbo though. I was just about to post that I would not be around EoD and leave me vote. (We have to take the one dog left to the vet for regular shots and stuff.) Came in to see Reki hammer his own boat, which makes no sense to do.
 
Rac is the only other option to kill for sure, and I do think blocking one or the other either is needed.

We can't get fucked up at this point, we play next day right we win.
 
Because right now you're pretty town read because of your power. I'm second on the chopping block today anyway, so if I get spotted it's no big deal. It's easier for you to sneak to game end than it is for me.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
haha, all good all good. I was just actually laughing that the majority of pressure on my boat has come from you and Terra.

Anyways, yeah, either rac/va or the trackers should die tonight. I would say rac/va, since their power is a bit more unknown than Fantohead's motion tracking. We could roleblock whichever team we don't kill, but honestly I'm not sure why we would. I do not 100% believe Fanto's description of their power. That sounds super weak since it's doesn't really say anything about anything, just basically says "hey, something happened" or "something didn't happen". With what we know of the remaining town powers, I think we've been pretty lucky to get the Vig and the Doctors as early as we did.

I did not expect the turbo though. I was just about to post that I would not be around EoD and leave me vote. (We have to take the one dog left to the vet for regular shots and stuff.) Came in to see Reki hammer his own boat, which makes no sense to do.
Yeah, I just had confidence it would ultimately fall on Rexbro and sure enough it did (with some help lol). I just didn’t want us to get 2 of our MLs and then be found out at the end because the pool of suspects is too small. I think we’re in a great spot now ultimately - even if Kyonna don’t exit.

Rac is the only other option to kill for sure, and I do think blocking one or the other either is needed.

We can't get fucked up at this point, we play next day right we win.
To explain my reasoning - if we leave rac alive they may get a power we can’t plan for since it’ll be a mystery whereas Fanto’s is a known quantity. Additionally, if we block the surviving pair they’ll be able to report back that a blocker exists which will further focus people in on the vanilla group. AB/Fat’s flip won’t help in that regard either since they’ll still know the blocker exists. That makes it less likely Chugg gets voted out due to role speculation which is not the desired outcome.

abs why would you do it you're for sure being looked into
Because that way if someone gets exposed it’s the only boat left that we are likely to lose anyways. Either Fanto sees AB move and he gets bussed to oblivion or he doesn’t and we can play the day out normally anyways. No need to risk you, our safest boat.

Why does everything happen when I'm not around. Which is all the time.
Has the game been a slog to read? I feel like it probably was. Especially D2 lol
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don’t think anyone can fault you there lol I wonder if we’ll even get a replacement for Fat.
 
So let's assume worst case scenario:

The gossips are town and do not leave the game
I am caught performing the NK and voted out (we should try to turbo I think?)

how many more days/nights do we need?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So let's assume worst case scenario:

The gossips are town and do not leave the game
I am caught performing the NK and voted out (we should try to turbo I think?)

how many more days/nights do we need?
Two MLs would be needed still. I suspect worst case it goes something like this:
3 Scum - 6 Town
AB/??? voted out
NK Fantohead
2 scum - 5 town
ML FEP/Stan or SkyChugg
NK Verello
2 scum - 3 town
Nat/Terra voted out
NK Kyonna
1 scum - 2 town (CS/LP, whoever is left of FEPStan or SkyChugg, and Dr. Stu)
Then just hope Dr. Stu or FEP/Stan turn on each other and CS/LP hammer.

I don't think it gets all the way to that point though. Fingers crossed.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
The real kicker will be if rac/VA are neutral instead of kyonna, but I don't love the idea of relying on them getting items being a lie.
 
So do we have power to bus someone today?

Cause we WON MOTHERFUCKERS

Congrats to Nat/Terra for being the killer duo who helped us reach victory

And extra grats to Bae Malus for sacraficing plays that led us to control the discussion how we warned
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So do we have power to bus someone today?

Cause we WON MOTHERFUCKERS

Congrats to Nat/Terra for being the killer duo who helped us reach victory

And extra grats to Bae Malus for sacraficing plays that led us to control the discussion how we warned
We haven’t won yet?
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Eh I don't think we've won yet. But Coolest who could be the remaining scum, hmm? I feel like voting down the list of vanillas is a path to losing.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Basically we have.
Fat4Alls do I have permission to post your gif for you giving ya credit after we get official win?
It is looking decent for us. A shame Kyonna weren’t neutral. This all could’ve been easier.

Eh I don't think we've won yet. But Coolest who could be the remaining scum, hmm? I feel like voting down the list of vanillas is a path to losing.
The good thing is I think it’s unlikely for town to pluck out the correct two scum vanillas. Just a matter of getting them to pick two wrong ones or to convince them SkyChugg is scum messenger.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’ll be going for AB or FEP today. Terra has some more options open to him. You two can pick pretty much any path forward since you don’t have tons of reads out there. Just don’t go too hog wild because you’re still our back up plan if needed to win.

I hope AB gets a teammate or bear lets him cast both his boat votes or something.
 
I’ll be going for AB or FEP today. Terra has some more options open to him. You two can pick pretty much any path forward since you don’t have tons of reads out there. Just don’t go too hog wild because you’re still our back up plan if needed to win.

I hope AB gets a teammate or bear lets him cast both his boat votes or something.
I say you make me go monkey L_P, like you said we need them out
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I don't think we should go for Monkey. It would placate Fanto but he's not going to be around much longer.

The options should really be as Nat said. FEPstan or AbsFat today, maybe even both. Then if it's not over then you look at Chuggdin, or choose between NatTerra or Monkey Stu.
 
Wonder how much easier this game would have been to win if Vere didn't turn out to be Innocent Child. He seemed like a shoo in for lynch yesterday.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Wonder how much easier this game would have been to win if Vere didn't turn out to be Innocent Child. He seemed like a shoo in for lynch yesterday.
True, still kinda salty how many PRs they have compared to us but oh well.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
The good news is after today there’s so little chance they flip whoever survives between AB and us. Coolest/LP need to just not catch heat and we’ll be good. Kinda hope no one latches onto AB’s comments there especially if he’s the one that lives.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Don’t know that you’ll have the time to. Fantohead tonight, Verello the next night, Kyonna the next night. At that point it’s the final day of the game.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I suspect you two boats are going to have to try and fight your way across the finish line. When I flip scum it’s going to become hard to lynch FEP now so you’ll probably have to go Dr. Stu and Chugg.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If we flip remember that I’ve defended Dr. Stu a lot, angled to push Chuggs off until later down the line, and that I went at Coolest/Zbeat some D1.
 
The good news is after today there’s so little chance they flip whoever survives between AB and us. Coolest/LP need to just not catch heat and we’ll be good. Kinda hope no one latches onto AB’s comments there especially if he’s the one that lives.
I can't see them latching onto it. It argues a technicality more than anything.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
At least some people are already entertaining the idea of FEP and me bussing each other. That might make the path a little easier.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I'm using scum chat to explain my in game persona.

Right now I'm wavering between the 3 vanilla teams right now. Dr Stu isn't in consideration today. I kinda agree with Monkey that it might come down to not reads.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
We're in MYLO, right? Or do we have another day even after this one, assuming I don't die today.
We are not in mylo. Even if town is voted out today the game won't be over. We need two townies voted out before we win, regardless of how many scum go in the process of getting there.
 
i think if worst comes to worst we need ab out before us. An ab scum flip would help secure our position with several people, and CS seems to be flying completely under the radar.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm honestly fine with it going either way, so long as we make sure it sticks that AB and us can't be aligned. Then the survivor and CS/LP carry it to the finish line hopefully.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
SkyChugg out today might put pressure on the claimed PRs. But it leaves the vanilla pool alone to be revisited the next day.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If SkyChugg actually gets outted today that will be a huge boon to us, but I don't think we should fall over ourselves to make it happen.

Also:

"For the life of me, I can't figure out what balances out a town team that has this many confirmable townies."

SAME
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Man, if AB actually had a partner he could make it close (6-5 AB assuming Sky moved back to AB). Lame.
 
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