Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite

[Terraforce]

What do you think he softed?

This post https://www.resetera.com/threads/love-boat-3-mafia-ot-this-time-its-bearsonal.116855/post-21287393. Could be (I hope) nothing, but just read as ominous to me.

And yeah, bummer we couldn't get a replacement for AB. But I think even if we got a mislynch off we would be back in this same scenario tomorrow. Sacrificing AB will give us at least another day or two since FEPs and Fanto will be pushed to the forefront, and Monkey seems like a viable distant third option (especially with the town confirmed Vere pretty harshly scum reading her).

 

[Terraforce]

Hmm @Natiko I'm not going to be around for long, and I don't have time to finish posting my reads as I intended to (which I was going to link with a vote and final thoughts of the day). Do you think I could just get away with an AB vote at this point?

 

[Terraforce]

We're not far from a three way tie so it could really swing either way. I might just not post again and leave it there for today (I'll be out of wifi in about an hour iirc anyway).

If anyone asks or gets too pushy, pls just tell em again that I likely can't reply again until Monday (if i'm even still alive then).

 

[Natiko]

This post https://www.resetera.com/threads/love-boat-3-mafia-ot-this-time-its-bearsonal.116855/post-21287393. Could be (I hope) nothing, but just read as ominous to me.

And yeah, bummer we couldn't get a replacement for AB. But I think even if we got a mislynch off we would be back in this same scenario tomorrow. Sacrificing AB will give us at least another day or two since FEPs and Fanto will be pushed to the forefront, and Monkey seems like a viable distant third option (especially with the town confirmed Vere pretty harshly scum reading her).

Ah, I think he was just angling for some weird 'gotcha' about SkyChugg being scum because they made a point to confirm their role to Kyonna..or something.

True, but if Chugg goes we can do some real crazy shit depending on what results a motion detector returns (I can't find it googling halp)

 

[Natiko]

Hmm @Natiko I'm not going to be around for long, and I don't have time to finish posting my reads as I intended to (which I was going to link with a vote and final thoughts of the day). Do you think I could just get away with an AB vote at this point?

I think if you just are honest and say you haven't had time due to getting ready for vacation it might be fine, worst case people will think it's scummy and us trying to protect Chuggs but uh, that thought process won't get them anywhere good so meh lol

 

[Natiko]

@The Bear I take it we aren't getting a replacement for AB's partner? His boat's weakened vote may actually impact the outcome of the day at this rate.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

@CoolestSpot want to jump on SkyChugg for now? Votes are 5-4 Abs/ent to SkyChugg.

 

[Natiko]

@CoolestSpot want to jump on SkyChugg for now? Votes are 5-4 Abs/ent to SkyChugg.

I don't know if he can - he was just saying he was mainly interested in Terra/me and Dr. Stu. Maybe he could reconcile it by saying he's choosing between currently available trains, but at the same time you're pushing to go for a vanilla as well so idk lol

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Maybe I'm just very convincing in our boat chat.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Okay at least we should agree on a target? Or go it alone?

 

[Natiko]

Maybe I'm just very convincing in our boat chat.

If you can swing it then go for it - I doubt you'll catch a ton of heat regardless.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Coolest has his vote on AbsFat anyway.

 

[Natiko]

Well then, town has apparently had a hard swing to considering you both as scum. No fucking bueno.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from.

taking back my early celebrations, sorry y'all, it's probably my awful playstyle.

But L_P, try to covience me join any train if it's not the 3 I mentioned, and also say you were talking to me in private PMS, and then I'll jump wherever you land

 

[Natiko]

Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from.

taking back my early celebrations, sorry y'all, it's probably my awful playstyle.

But L_P, try to covience me join any train if it's not the 3 I mentioned, and also say you were talking to me in private PMS, and then I'll jump wherever you land

Don’t think that’s allpwed about the PMs so don’t say that

 

[CoolestSpot]

Don’t think that’s allpwed about the PMs so don’t say that

you can't say "oh we discussed this topic in lovers chat"? Cause everyone is doing that

 

[CoolestSpot]

Also the vanilla train got people on our ass in first place, but trying to hold steady

 

[Natiko]

you can't say "oh we discussed this topic in lovers chat"? Cause everyone is doing that

You can just don’t say PM

@absolutbro vote Chugg and pray

 

[Natiko]

God if he had a partner it could be tied blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[CoolestSpot]

God if he had a partner it could be tied blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Can he not vote for both?

 

[Natiko]

Can he not vote for both?

Bear hasn’t said so, that would be nice

 

[CoolestSpot]

We're fucked in that the easy riders me and L_P now got eyes on us tho

 

[Natiko]

We're fucked in that the easy riders me and L_P now got eyes on us tho

Hence why AB getting Chugg out today would be ace

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

AB flip gives us some breathing room.

 

[absolutbro]

Get em guys, I believe!

 

[Natiko]

AB flip gives us some breathing room.

It also means they’re probably never voting Chuggs out. This is shitty. There’s been literally no communication on this.

 

[Natiko]

I’m shitty. Just want this game to end, don’t really give a fuck if we win or lose.

 

[CoolestSpot]

We needed AB to flip to save our asses.
Sorry AB, hope you and the pups are all alright

 

[CoolestSpot]

I’m shitty. Just want this game to end, don’t really give a fuck if we win or lose.

What? Why? This is kind of frustrating, but honest.

Is it how me and L_P play?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Vote was close: 8-6. AbsFat gets one additional vote from their partner and a swing and SkyChugg are gone.

Sky's late posts don't inspire a lot of confidence.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Get em guys, I believe!

Hope things work out with the new puppy, AB.

 

[Natiko]

What? Why? This is kind of frustrating, but honest.

Is it how me and L_P play?

No, I’m frustrated because AB has been without a partner all phase shorting his ability to play defensively. No one posted in the main OT asking for additional replacement volunteers, no one put out an announcement on the discord, nothing.

 

[Natiko]

Hope all is well with the new pup AB. You deserve a good break.

 

[Natiko]

No, I’m frustrated because AB has been without a partner all phase shorting his ability to play defensively. No one posted in the main OT asking for additional replacement volunteers, no one put out an announcement on the discord, nothing.

I even pinged Bear and we got diddly in response.

 

[The Bear]

No, I’m frustrated because AB has been without a partner all phase shorting his ability to play defensively. No one posted in the main OT asking for additional replacement volunteers, no one put out an announcement on the discord, nothing.

I've been pinging through the replacement list, but most are either already in spec, or have said they don't have time atm.

 

[The Bear]

That said, I've only given double vote rights if their partner was banned, which did happen in LB1.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Yeah it sucks all around, AB was kind of stuck to die, but I don't blame the gods as they were powerless to stop it

 

[Natiko]

I've been pinging through the replacement list, but most are either already in spec, or have said they don't have time atm.

That said, I've only given double vote rights if their partner was banned, which did happen in LB1.

It can’t be helped now, but I see very little difference between a boat losing a player to a boat losing a player due to an injury and then never being able to find a replacement. If anything the first scenario deserves less accommodation than the second. Not going to argue though, your game your rules.

Hopefully we can somehow pull this out even though we need two mislynches and one of our boats is suddenly under extreme suspicion.

 

[Natiko]

to a ban and*

 

[Natiko]

KILL: Fantomas

Goodnight my sweet prince

 

[Natiko]

I also can’t believe you two may get voted out because CS didn’t remember what a JOAT was and we don’t even have one because our team is weak. Lol

 

[Natiko]

If someone disagrees with the Fanto kill let me know and we can talk about it. I personally don’t see any reason to not kill them though. AB’s flip essentially confirms their role. Then the next night you kill either kyonna or Verello, the following night if the game isn’t over you kill whichever one is left after that.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

There is some doubt with Fanto but we can't risk them detecting any of us.

Next day should be interesting with the scum flip.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Err by doubt I mean he could be scum but the ninja confirms him. Only one shot though.

 

[Natiko]

Err by doubt I mean he could be scum but the ninja confirms him. Only one shot though.

Yeah, it’s the ninja flip that I think throws out any chance of him being voted out.

Our best shot is probably FlatStan and then Dr. Stu or SkyChugg.

 

[CoolestSpot]

I say fanto is the best kill yeah, or Monkey

 

[The Bear]

NOTE:

CoolestSpot has been banned from Era, with his ban length under review. As such, he is being removed from the game starting from now.

I'm looking for a replacement, and potentially giving LP the rights to double vote until a replacement is found since this is a special case.

 

[Natiko]

Thanks for the update Bear.

Between that and Terra being on vacation gonna be a quiet day start on the scum side @Lone_Prodigy

 

[saenima]

Hey everybody! My first time scum :D

I haven't been following the game and there's a lot to read. So, what's happening? What do i need to know?

 

[saenima]

Has any of us claimed anything?

 

[Natiko]

Has any of us claimed anything?

You’re a one shot double voter and it has already been used. You started catching heat at the end of last day due to Coolest being weird. We just bussed a teammate though so you were on the vote for a scum player. A chunk of people assume you are town due to double vote being town. LP doesn’t talk much so people won’t expect you to be super informed.

 

[Natiko]

Terra and I claimed vanilla. Just read part of the last day phase and you’ll be okay.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

We mass claimed

Dr Monkey and Stu are vanilla
Stan and FEP are vanilla
Kyan and Donna are gossip thieves
Sky and Chugg are messengers
Verelios and Apollo are celebrities

Coolest and me are double voters
Nat and Terra are vanilla

Our best chance at winning is to take out SkyChugg and FEPStan. Maybe Dr. Stu if we have to. The rest are too confirmed to be lunched.

You can say our chat is quiet so just spend the day catching up.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

5-2

We can probably get FEPStan today. 4-2

3-2 which means we can hammer a win if someone suspects SkyChugg or Dr. Stu. Which means we leave both those teams alive and kill... Kyanonna?

 

[Natiko]

5-2

We can probably get FEPStan today. 4-2

3-2 which means we can hammer a win if someone suspects SkyChugg or Dr. Stu. Which means we leave both those teams alive and kill... Kyanonna?

Yes we kill either kyonna or verello. If scum get got whoever remains kills the one we didn’t kill the previous night.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

The more likely scenario is that me and sae die tomorrow, making it SkyChugg, Dr Stu and NatForce as the final three. That will be fun.

 

[Natiko]

Especially since Chugg is still firmly on Monkey’s side. Not gonna be fun for me.

 

[saenima]

Thanks. Gonna read last day and take it from there. I just hope i don't get us killed with some idiotic comment :/

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Monkey wants fire, eh?

 

[Natiko]

Monkey wants fire, eh?

Little bit. Have a feeling we gon lose. We’re going to look back on the missing vote from AB’s boat that could’ve swung the Chugg lynch as the reason we lost. Very cool.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Activity and replacements did us in, which sucks for you guys that have been there since the start.

One argument I won't use because when we flip it'll be discarded: Xbro started a day suspecting Dr Stu. They died, flipped town. Next day, Fanto came out with a vote. He died that night, flipped town.

Talking about trail of bodies, how about the ones that Dr Stu have been leaving behind.

Btw the boat nicknames are now in my auto suggest list lol

 

[Natiko]

Good call. I’ll keep it in my back pocket in case this goes to lylo. I may end up bussing you today. Still debating on it. I worry if we don’t get the FEP lynch today though people won’t go for it tomorrow and I’ll be hosed. If Verello would go for FlatStan that would be best for us but I suspect they may not.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

If we die today maybe kill Dr. Stu since they'll get a million town points with our flip. And bank on neutral thieves or something.

 

[saenima]

Should probably go for the survival vote. Not gonna be able to build a case against anyone tbh. This sub caught me in the middle of overtime week :(

 

[saenima]

If we die today maybe kill Dr. Stu since they'll get a million town points with our flip. And bank on neutral thieves or something.

On the other hand, monkey will die on Town Natiko hill i think.

 

[saenima]

If we survive today i will consider it a win whatever happens next lol

 

[Natiko]

The good news I think if you go today FEP might still be a shoe in the next day. It’s that lylo of 2-1 that we’ll lose. I think leaving kyonna and Chugg alive may be too transparent. Pretty sure Verello still have us as their number two scum so any configuration with them alive probably ends in a loss. Dr. Stu and Chugg probably ends with me going because I think Chugg will vote me first and Dr. Stu were scumreading me before the bus. I think we’re just hosed. I’m probably going to be salty over not getting Chugg out for a very long time. Feels bad to just get short changed over semantics (drop vs. ban).

 

[saenima]

Say we go today. Who do you NK?

 

[saenima]

What about a DrStu NK? If not the next night, the one after that.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

If only we still had that double vote. :P

<3 you Coolest.

 

[Natiko]

Say we go today. Who do you NK?

Basically just depends on which of the configurations I want in the end.

What about a DrStu NK? If not the next night, the one after that.

The possible pairings in lylo would be:

Me/Terra vs Dr. Stu vs SkyChugg
Me/Terra vs Dr. Stu vs Kyonna
Me/Terra vs Dr. Stu vs Verello
Me/Terra vs SkyChugg vs Kyonna
Me/Terra vs SkyChugg vs Verello

We have to figure out which of the aboveboard gives me the best shot at winning. I want to say it’s either 1 or 4.

 

[Natiko]

If only we still had that double vote. :P

<3 you Coolest.

Yeah, that would’ve been useful. I’m still willing to move if people make a strong enough case, but I did not want to be the last one on your vote if you go. Better to slide on now and see if momentum can shift elsewhere to hop back off.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Yeah but how are you going to slide back to FlatStan now. :P

 

[Natiko]

Yeah but how are you going to slide back to FlatStan now. :P

All comes down to if momentum can be made towards that lynch. I don’t have anything down saying I think they’re clear and I’ve been pushing a four scum team setup. But the hard part is going to be getting momentum there when you are town reading the boat and town seems checked out.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I wouldn't bother reading much if at all, sae. Just vote with me.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Don't have to town read FlatStan. Votes will go there for self preservation.

 

[Natiko]

I do think if it comes to it I’m going to do SkyChugg and kyonna. Just going to have to pray people buy the whole “last scum can do their PR and the kill” thing. Just think that might be a better chance than getting Monkey to turn on Chugg...idk.

Don't have to town read FlatStan. Votes will go there for self preservation.

Oh I know, but you can’t really make a strong push for them as scum was more my point.

 

[saenima]

I wouldn't bother reading much if at all, sae. Just vote with me.

Yeah. Flatstan?

 

[Natiko]

If Apollo and Sky follow their partners you can live through today.

 

[saenima]

We could literally turbo right now lol

 

[Natiko]

We could literally turbo right now lol

That would make Terra and I look so so bad. Just have to hope Apollo and Sky join on FEP.

 

[saenima]

That would make Terra and I look so so bad. Just have to hope Apollo and Sky join on FEP.

I'm hopeful. The fact is that Flatstan is leading with only one of us voting there. Gonna make DrStu fight for it at least.

 

[Natiko]

I'm hopeful. The fact is that Flatstan is leading with only one of us voting there. Gonna make DrStu fight for it at least.

Yeah I think it may come together.

 

[Terraforce]

Where is LP? We need him to vote standas. Getting a bit close for comfort.

I’ll post in the main thread when I get home.

 

[Terraforce]

Dang this game is so close. I'll wait to post in thread to get some feedback, but assuming no currently on Standas one flips to vote LP, we should be fine one more day as long as I vote Standas. Tomorrow is the real concern though. If we nk'd Monkey, we might be able to push for a Skychuggs lynch for the win since Apollo would be the only remainder on the LP lynch after that.

Conversely I could bus LP with Nat for some additional cred, but at this point I'm not sure it's worth much. Especially since if we lose LP we'd have to take the game into mylo to win.

 

[Natiko]

Dang this game is so close. I'll wait to post in thread to get some feedback, but assuming no currently on Standas one flips to vote LP, we should be fine one more day as long as I vote Standas. Tomorrow is the real concern though. If we nk'd Monkey, we might be able to push for a Skychuggs lynch for the win since Apollo would be the only remainder on the LP lynch after that.

Conversely I could bus LP with Nat for some additional cred, but at this point I'm not sure it's worth much. Especially since if we lose LP we'd have to take the game into mylo to win.

I really, really doubt they go SkyChugg after FEP flips town at this point. I think FEP and LP are gone today and tomorrow in whatever order. It's going to come down to lylo between us, skychugg, and whoever we want as the third.

 

[Natiko]

#foreverbitteraboutAB

 

[saenima]

Dang this game is so close. I'll wait to post in thread to get some feedback, but assuming no currently on Standas one flips to vote LP, we should be fine one more day as long as I vote Standas. Tomorrow is the real concern though. If we nk'd Monkey, we might be able to push for a Skychuggs lynch for the win since Apollo would be the only remainder on the LP lynch after that.

Conversely I could bus LP with Nat for some additional cred, but at this point I'm not sure it's worth much. Especially since if we lose LP we'd have to take the game into mylo to win.

Well LP should just vote Stanflat, out of preservation if nothing else. This will tie 6-6. Your vote would get it to 7, only one away from majority. Which wpuld be great! But you should only vote there if you can defend your position. Otherwise just put on the bus and get some town cred. Your team us in a good place for end game and we shouldn't risk that.

 

[saenima]

Can we edit posts here in chat?

 

[Terraforce]

@Natiko I feared as much, I'm just betting on the best case scenario for us. I'll probably settle on Standas on the off chance we can salvage LP somehow.

 

[saenima]

Well we can't. Should have checked before asking lol

That post up there is a mess and it's bugging me.

 

[Terraforce]

Well LP should just vote Stanflat, out of preservation if nothing else. This will tie 6-6. Your vote would get it to 7, only one away from majority. Which wpuld be great! But you should only vote there if you can defend your position. Otherwise just put on the bus and get some town cred. Your team us in a good place for end game and we shouldn't risk that.

Sky also hasn't voted yet and seems stuck on FEPs so there's that to consider as well. I'm basically the tipping point assuming no one shifts votes too frantically.

 

[Natiko]

Dang this game is so close. I'll wait to post in thread to get some feedback, but assuming no currently on Standas one flips to vote LP, we should be fine one more day as long as I vote Standas. Tomorrow is the real concern though. If we nk'd Monkey, we might be able to push for a Skychuggs lynch for the win since Apollo would be the only remainder on the LP lynch after that.

Conversely I could bus LP with Nat for some additional cred, but at this point I'm not sure it's worth much. Especially since if we lose LP we'd have to take the game into mylo to win.

I wish Sky would cast his vote for FEP as would LP. Then you could notch it at 7-7 all and we could hope someone blinks and moves to FEP. Our best hope is to just make sure we look better than SkyChugg so if they go FEP and we go LP that'll at least help.

 

[Terraforce]

I'm still catching up, but I see now why you think LP is likely a lost cause either way. Ooof

 

[Natiko]

I'm still catching up, but I see now why you think LP is likely a lost cause either way. Ooof

This whole game is probably a lost cause. But we'll play it out and shrug our way to a defeat lol

 

[saenima]

I mean, winning is a bit of a reach but i'd like us to go into Lylo at least. Make'em sweat lol

 

[Natiko]

@Lone_Prodigy You gonna vote for FEP?

 

[Terraforce]

@Natiko which way would you rather me swing, partner? I don't know how much we can rely on Sky and LP this late into the day. Hopefully they pull through, but it's getting down tot he wire. With you being one of the earlier pushes against LP, I might be able to inch out a Standas mislynch. It's your call since my activity has fallen off of a cliff this past day and you're still there to play.

 

[Natiko]

@Natiko which way would you rather me swing, partner? I don't know how much we can rely on Sky and LP this late into the day. Hopefully they pull through, but it's getting down tot he wire. With you being one of the earlier pushes against LP, I might be able to inch out a Standas mislynch. It's your call since my activity has fallen off of a cliff this past day and you're still there to play.

I say just vote LP. If we get got tomorrow anyways then there was never any hope for us. Going LP now will give us a slight positive upside over SkyChugg who we are unfortunately going to be stuck trying to get voted out in LYLO alongside either Kyonna or Dr. Stu. We can't afford to have you go off on FEP without much groundwork at this point. You can just say you're sheeping me on LP since you haven't had much time to devote.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Not the way I wanted today to go, all. Sorry about that.

Still mildly annoyed at Monkey using Cluedo against me but it happens.

Honestly if this push happened last day I would've swung to SkyChugg.