Pair Thread Kyanrute & empressdonna Suite

[Kyanrute]

Assuming Sorian is scum, the ground work should've taken mostly place already. One third of the votes free, another 3rd on Sorian. Dunno if there can be much of a convincing alternative without some drastic action like a superb claim. If he is town, shit can get bonkers or we can sleepwalk Sorian to death.

 

[empressdonna]

i'm surprised there's not been a crazy gambit/claim yet.

Unless he knows we are right or he has no pr

 

[Kyanrute]

It'd be weird for him to be a town PR, yeah.

If scum, ehh. It'd make sense to try and get a counter out so that the counter can still be killed, but what claiming doc ain't gonna bring the real one out, he can't claim gossip because of Bae, cop was claimed so what's there that can be believed and not be taken as a ZOMG SORRYAN FAKE CLAIM? Investigative of some sorts but ehhh, dunno how to fake that, is hella risky.

 

[empressdonna]

I won't say this in the thread cause it's been answered but i swear i've used similar wording to zipped and been town XD.

it's crazy right now.

 

[Kyanrute]

I read that as Zipped speculating about the chance that the Sorian flip is going to be a mislynch and he was asking for the final words. Don't see the issue.

 

[empressdonna]

same here, glad i'm not alone :D

 

[empressdonna]

that post from sorian wow, i can't see a townie saying that but this is sorian we are talking about XD

 

[empressdonna]

fff b-dubs response hahaha.

*gigglegiggle*

 

[empressdonna]

excuse me while i giggle more

sorian: nope
b-dubs: *reveals*

 

[Kyanrute]

I dunno, the lack of coordination on their part feels odd. Hoping it is scummy odd.

 

[empressdonna]

please be scum or neutral or else hats will be eaten

 

[Kyanrute]

when did lp start playing

crazy, did not even notice him

that is a nice burn

10 points for gryffindor

 

[empressdonna]

nom nom nom hat ;-;

 

[Kyanrute]

hats do taste nice

 

[empressdonna]

also: welp ;-; at mr geno

 

[empressdonna]

I wonder if he means it or if he will talk.

also if he is scum, we're probably dead???

 

[empressdonna]

and so to bed to sleep.

have fun with geno~ I'll fire questions when i am awake

 

[Kyanrute]

am zzz soon tm as well

short night

waaaaaaaaait

shit that'd be so cool

getting killed in our own chat

that'd be cool

 

[empressdonna]

trying to think if there is anything else i want to ask or say to geno o.o.

I can't think of anything right now :( boo

 

[Kyanrute]

Not sure if there is much more.

At least we got him to think about other things than just Doc Stu, he is right about us needing a scum kill soon.

 

[empressdonna]

indeed :D, we need a good boost for town else we are dead ;-;

 

[Kyanrute]

Monkey and Stu might have figured us out.

 

[Kyanrute]

hmm how hard have we been going for the scum mvp award i wonder

 

[empressdonna]

haha ;-; maybe maybe.

 

[empressdonna]

secretly helping scum since the start of the game?~

 

[Kyanrute]

My end vote will almost certainly be on Stu / Monkey today.

 

[empressdonna]

I really really don't see myself joining you there unless it was for self-preservation.

I just fail to see them as scum :(. I do promise to reread them though like with everyone else

 

[empressdonna]

<3 geno hahahaha

 

[Kyanrute]

Is all right, good to have some balance and if not for you I imagine I'd not even entertain the idea of them being town.

 

[empressdonna]

<3 if I'm wrong well... it wouldn't be the first time haha but I'm so sure this time.

(ignore the fact i was sure on sorian, sorry sorian)

 

[empressdonna]

since i can't do this in the main thread because it would be super obvious.

I love that post kyaa <3

 

[Kyanrute]

Bae's reaction to this is bad. It lacks feeling, much like a scum response would.

 

[empressdonna]

:( worry worry

 

[empressdonna]

ahhh that is sus as fudge ;_;

if stu/monkey have figured us out then that VA post wow

 

[empressdonna]

no no no no no no no no no no is all i'm thinking right now.

this is wasting so much time we could be using for scumhunting

 

[Kyanrute]

there is no world here where we don't reveal or to be exact force them to reveal

 

[Kyanrute]

The pocket part of the argument is too integral to the whole. Not guessing us correctly punches a hole into it.

 

[empressdonna]

urgh i don't know... if piratemalus and genosparks AREN'T scum, then we are outing ourselves for nothing.

i don't know what hints stu/monkey have seen but others may not have.

it feels safer to stay hidden

 

[Kyanrute]

I mean the idea is to force them and then get Geno to counter it if they guess wrong. If they are correct, scum know regardless since either Doc Stu or Pirate malus are scum.

 

[empressdonna]

maybe that is just nervousness but ahhh.

I don't want us to die d3 haha

 

[empressdonna]

I mean the idea is to force them and then get Geno to counter it if they guess wrong. If they are correct, scum know regardless since either Doc Stu or Pirate malus are scum.

fair enough, okay then. Maybe geno will be like 'nope' if they say us to protect us? though we shouldn't hope for that

 

[Kyanrute]

We aren't dying this day. This night though, who knows?

 

[empressdonna]

though they have moved off it for now... ahhh

 

[empressdonna]

true

 

[empressdonna]

think i'll head to bed soon but before I do:

i think part of my 'please be wrong'/'please don't out us if you are right' is just based on my survival rate haha. I should stop thinking 'just let me live till past day 4 ;_;' and think 'well, it could pull scum out of the woodwork if they are right'

 

[empressdonna]

And there we go.

Lets see who believes it or not. geno will, pirate will

 

[empressdonna]

XD well then, looks like we are being protected!

though yeah scum know now, if they didn't already. if they believe stu and monkey

 

[Kyanrute]

One theoretical mistake that we made was not asking Bae to post the command in our chat.

Only theoretical though since she'd have had every reason to not to do that regardless of her alignment.

 

[Kyanrute]

My end vote will almost certainly be on Stu / Monkey today.

Hmm. All the things I commit into and then later take back.

Funny.

 

[empressdonna]

Hmm. All the things I commit into and then later take back.

Funny.

what? donna ish confused, maybe cause sleepy donna z.z

 

[Kyanrute]

I take that back already, only took 2h.

The Bae case is worth investigating and thinking about.

 

[Kyanrute]

Regardless, the stage today is set for a pirate and a doctor. Solving this should happen.

lets see in how many hours i am going for a 3rd candidate

 

[Kyanrute]

we are now pocket gossips

smol gossips that fit pockets nicely :3

 

[Kyanrute]

hmmm

pokegos

we are pokegos

wow

 

[empressdonna]

XD haha omg pokegos hahaha

 

[empressdonna]

also: was originally going to find something else but decided on that higurashi gif to respond to Natiko.

(so few umineko gifs though ;-; otherwise for my avatar sake I'd use one)

 

[Kyanrute]

fuck i am a great pokegos

i even sound like a pokegos

kyaaa, kyaaa!

 

[empressdonna]

XD hehe kyaa

^_^ so silly

 

[empressdonna]

I'll not dogpile on piratemalus right now but it is interesting to see her reaction.

either monkey and the stu are right or... we are lunching a town that was defending us ;_;

 

[empressdonna]

;-; Bae I'm sorry if we are causing you stress

-huggle-

I agree with fantomas's sentiments

 

[Kyanrute]

Me too.

is game is hard

verily hard many of times

 

[empressdonna]

For future gamereaders and curious cats:

Gifs I've used so far-

Idolm@ster cheering gif (here)
Higurashi opening gif of rika furude (main thread, response to natiko)
clannad hug gif (response to bae ;_;)

 

[Kyanrute]

much images needed for stress curing ;_;

 

[empressdonna]

also I won't say this in main thread but will in here because it is random.

Why does reki's post make me think of the buffy episode 'Once more with feeling' and the 'I have a feeling' song haha.

"I have a feeling that there's a demon... a dancing demon? no something isn't right there"

 

[empressdonna]

much images needed for stress curing ;_;

I have more cute gifs if you need them <3 :)

 

[Kyanrute]

Great work has been done by various parties to tone down the no counter argument.

The malusian silence is troubling, I want to try to catch him in a lie / omission.

Town v town would be lol.

Role cop implication still is stronger than a grand scum plan about sacrificing one of their own and watching for protection. Grand scum plans aren't a thing.

Monkey implies a watcher, one funny tidbit that is obvious but not out in the public: we can't be watched since we move during the day. Isn't what happened the following: doc protects town cops on N1, scum watch cop because they are afraid of doc and have no strongman. They get the doc and kill them on N2. Is role cop obfuscation and watcher the actual truth?

 

[empressdonna]

maybe maybe

 

[empressdonna]

sorry if that sounded dismissive!

Just thinking about all this madness while sipping on cola

 

[Kyanrute]

no dismission detected

only infinite possibilities

argh

 

[empressdonna]

certainly infinite possibilities ahh

Baelus = town means green check (confirmed), us (not really confirmed till we flip but WE know we are town), double voted (most likely town), cops confirmed and maaaaybe messenger is town

Baelus = scum means fake green check, us town, double vote townie, cops hidden/non existant, messenger could be town?

 

[Kyanrute]

No investigative would mean that town has something like 1-shot BP left and scum are what, Pirate malus and two goons?

 

[Kyanrute]

But me thinks it will be very beneficial to vote either Pirate malus or Doc Stu out today.

Which one would you go for? I'm still waiting to see if I can catch malus up on some contradictions about their chat but I am bit more leaning on voting Doc Stu right now. smol bit. verily smol.

 

[empressdonna]

maybe ;-; ahhh

though, wouldn't scum have a bp or rb to block the vig o.o

 

[empressdonna]

If it was between the two and only the two, piratemalus though after her last post, i wouldn't feel good about it regardless of her alignment.

But the fact there hasn't been another surge to another train yet (though it is still early doors) makes me wonder if this is town v town and scum are like 'haha! let them fight, we'll watch /popcorn.gif'

 

[Kyanrute]

Oh yeah, the day vigi. I dunno if you'd want to mirror the town BP over to the other side as well and RB would be odd with this little roles to block. They do need something though, Occam's Razor says BP and I can't instantly think of good alternative.

 

[Kyanrute]

Early doors is such a cool way to say that thing lol.

 

[empressdonna]

I'm being as honest as i can be but left out that i'd probably vote for baelus.

My head hurts a little right now, going to grab painkillers and try and see if i can find a third option for a train.

 

[empressdonna]

I am pretty sure vere is trying to swerve on me

 

[empressdonna]

You can't change my feeling potentially scum!vere

and if you are town, well hi, i'm donna and my feelings are weird XD

 

[Kyanrute]

Looking back on some of the read posts I've made, I must say that I am pleased that so far I have continued the proud tradition of town Kyaaa's reads being absolute shit.

 

[Kyanrute]

hammer danger oh noes donna where are your read lists halp my town reads are scum and scum reads town prs

 

[empressdonna]

XD I am here!! (sort of, ffxiv stream is on).

If it wasn't a mess up, looks like we were pocketed which means malus = scum and tybro = ???

 

[empressdonna]

fat4all, best doggo previous scum friend, are you scum ;_;

 

[Kyanrute]

oh you are here yay

 

[Kyanrute]

I dunno, everything is kinda going on so not sure but I was thinking umm Chugger to pretty much see if we can play around with the messengers and figure something out, should it be the case that this mechanics thing ends up being true.

Dunno what the other alternatives for steal would be. I was thinking like Stu, but they could be vanilla, or abso because everyone else feels rather ehh to me.

 

[Kyanrute]

I dunno though, if Bae is scum why stop at faking town cop, go all in and green check a mate as well.

what is this game

 

[Kyanrute]

There is a world there where this is scum v scum. Oh my.

 

[Kyanrute]

STEAL: Stuart444

in the case of mr hammer the slammer during the times of three z

 

[Kyanrute]

feel free to change it should the need arise, i iz zzz

sweepy

 

[empressdonna]

:) no worries, if it looks like it is moving to them on the chopblock i'll swap

 

[Kyanrute]

If the day ain't over yet, lets talk about who we actually should steal. Stu is a possibility but are there any alternatives? Should we try to poke some speech out of some of the silent ones?

 

[empressdonna]

we'll probably have a better idea once the site is back (as in, if it was a messup or it wasn't and thus piratebae may get hammered to a lunch).

I'm fine with stealing stu right now though there is the possibility that either they will be dead or we'll be dead so it might not matter. I'd like to bounce some more info out of him but if we don't go for the stu route then hmm...

Other choices could be like apollo, reki or stan/fep. If we are talking quiet people that is

 

[empressdonna]

oh or rac, rac is always an option.

 

[empressdonna]

My main thoughts now are:

- Stu/Monkey dies tonight, we get set up by scum for a mislunch or we die tonight

Also, if scum can see chat town can't thing is true which with how malus is acting i am sure it is, we can't just ASK people now 'hey, can you see your chat' cause they will lie... scum could use us easily ahh

 

[Kyanrute]

Stu / Monkey in order to build the town hugbox more.
Vere / Apollo to question the publicly presumed 2nd scum.
Various others to look for the 3rd or 4th scum or to look for a town PR.

 

[empressdonna]

Going on that theory, maybe we should stick to a stu steal then at least if they die and are town, we could have their reads?

I mean worse case, they are vanilla and all we get is an idea of where stu's brain is at.

 

[Kyanrute]

Hmm. They did do work during the night, seems fair to assume that they'd do so this time as well. Would breaking them up cause damage though, since they could not see their chat anymore during the night?

 

[empressdonna]

maybe? one of the two would be stuck talking to themselves but if anyone we steal is town, that's a risk we'll have to take :(

 

[empressdonna]

But I also don't see a world where they survive tonight unless scum kill us and spin it as a dr stu did it thing after we lost our usefulness...? assuming town of course

 

[Kyanrute]

The kill is us or them I'd think. Hmm. A lifeline play then? Guarantee some info gets out via linking us and them?

And now that our cards are on the table, the one lone thing we can still do is force scum to copy and paste down everything they say to us into scum chat and I question the usefulness of that somewhat. Playing for scum slips ain't gonna work here.

Maybe you are right. Stu or Monkey?