Spectator Thread Home away from hell

Discussion in 'Life is Strange' started by Fantomas, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. Fantomas

    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    I picked the Black Eagles, but don't worry, I'm sure you'll still town read me. ;)
    Yeah, I'm playing it on casual mode to hopefully avoid anything like that, not really interested in permadeath and stuff haha. At least not for my first time playing.
    Pff, my thread, if there isn't any Mafia to talk about, then we talk about Fire Emblem! :P
     
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    Who’s gonna stop me - I’m a mod :P Just killing time for things to pick up in the game. My prediction is Zeke wins in lylo.

    Also, I was playing normal and casual I believe. It was some mission that started me on a mountain with a couple party members split up and surrounded I think. Just got brutalized.

    Yeah, the permadeath stuff is not for me.
     
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    I forget if you saw the spec thread where Stan went on for pages about D&D. Wasn't that long ago, it was him letting off steam after being killed. Hilarious though. (<3 Stan)
     
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    Oh no town what is you doin
     
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    Verelios Were-elios

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    OA is putting in work. If they make sense then at least give them a chance =/
     
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    Yes, a split party can make stuff pretty challenging. Can't remember the exact map though, but did you have any flying units? These can be good for moving other units across mountains, since reuniting the party should be priority.

    As general advice don't always push ahead. FE usually rewards turtling and backtracking, with only a few exceptions.

    By the way Awakening has an amazing rendition of Anna is a great entry point, so I'd totally recommend you to try again.

    The first few times I played classic but always hit reset when units died - I liked them too much - but;
    - When you accept permadeath for what it is, the game becomes something so different. It's so thrilling and makes for a run unlike any other, making you value these lovely characters even more and granting a good alibi to dispose of those you hate.
    - Since Echoes the franchise introduced a mechanic to rewind turns. Although limited, it can encourage you to eventually play classic.

    I remember recently reading Stan referring to DnD with weird grammar (was he drunk?) for posts and posts. Unsure if it was something that happened a while ago and was just linked though.

    And yes he's always a fun poster to read.

    So you can form an united front and kill Swamped! You both distrust her. Please.
     
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  7. Fantomas

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    Damn, OA just busts in and talks some sense!
     
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    rac whatever

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    whats the order on nks if both scum and sk go after one another?
     
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    this could be a wild fucking ending

    edit: i honestly have no idea whose in good shape here
    edit edit: town has to hit a baddie here right?
     
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    The thing is, Swamped still has a 1-Shot BP vest. It's one of the reasons I'm now thinking that telling her she could claim Miller might have been going overboard a bit, because that alone kept both Town and Scum off of her, she basically has to be voted out to lose here now.
     
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    I'd say chances to win would be:
    Town: 25%
    Mafia: 50%
    SK: 25%
     
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    Yeah, I'd probably put money on Swamped going today, and then Zeke winning on D6 in the final three, but we'll see.

    Otherwise, if they go OA today for the Vanilla claim, Swamped's chances shoot up because it all comes down to the kills. The day starts with her winning if any Townie gets shot, the only way a D6 can play out there is if she and Zeke shoot at each other and it goes to a final three with her, Stan, and Kits, and she's probably done for there.

    If they somehow vote out Zeke today, it's also probably a Town win.
     
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    Yeah, Zeke has the edge here if town doesn’t go fully insane and keep votes down on their own. That anyone is even considering a non-Swamped vote today still feels kind of wild to me. I guess the two one night kills may be throwing them off, but I just can’t see how anyone is buying a Miller claim with the roles they’ve seen so far.
     
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  14. turmoil7

    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    Everyone seems to simply have forgotten there were two double kills nights
     
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    Is this going to be the part where they all tell Kits what a Miller is and she goes "Oh, well what the fuck are we waiting for!? Vote for them!"
     
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    Nevermind, she has decided she isn't suspicious of the Miller now, carry on.
     
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    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    Could it be, that perhaps, maybe, just maybe, Maol was killed by someone who wasn't on the Scum team, or the Town team?

    Just sayin...
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    are we totally sure there isn't a cult?
     
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    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    I will neither confirm or deny the existence of a cult in this game, you will just need to choose whether or not to believe in it.
     
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    i wonder if anyone actually read eod yesterday

    i mean its right there ezekel completely dropped the fact that he was calling kits a neutral yesterday
     
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    rac whatever

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    alright time to stop procrastinating 160 pages left
     
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    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    OA is making a good point about Stan's claim. Nothing Stan has provided them with in regards to his role couldn't have been obtained by just looking at dead player's flips. None of the roles left have any way to prove they are telling the truth, and so therefore, they should be focused on things other than role claims right now if they want to call someone Scum. Except for that Miller claim, they should all be side-eyeing the fuck out of that lol. :P

    Also, Coroner was one of the fake claims that Fran gave us in Conspiracy (shoutouts to Malus).
     
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    A fresh pair of eyes that haven't been dealing with the game can really bust it wide open in the right situation. That said, now I'm worried Swamped might not make it through the day.
     
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    cabot Why.

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    Miller really should have been cleared up by this point, and it's not like Swamped has been helpful to Town through much of this game either.
     
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    Faddy of, having, or involving transitory whims

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    Policy lynch in LYLO wtf???

    Swamped has been scummy, her votes are very suspicious and she has kept herself on the sidelines to some extent. That is what is scummy, not the Miller role.
     
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    this is gonna be a long day phase
     
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  27. rac

    rac whatever

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    yeah it would be tough to be in town's position atm and i wouldnt know what to do if i was alive really
    but at least for them it shouldn't feel unwinnable
     
  28. Geno

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    Slow day, hope it picks up later.
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    Has Zeke realized swamp isn't town? Has swamped noticed Zeke is scum?
     
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    Based on Scum Chat, Zeke thinks Stan is a Neutral because he convinced himself that Stan's flavor, Dana, is probably neutral by reading her wiki page, and I have no idea why lol.

    Based on what she said before killing Rac, Swamped thinks Melon/OA is the last Scum and that Zeke is Town.
     
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    Fireblend ABLF

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    What happens if Zeke and Swamped are the only ones alive? Tie? No one wins? lol
     
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    I imagine they'd give it to swamp either way, but if she still has her BP she definitely wins
     
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    Fireblend ABLF

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    Oh I'd forgotten about the BP. That makes sense :D
     
  34. Fantomas

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    Swamped's win con is to be alive "with 1 Town and 1 Mafia, or less, remaining."
     
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    #Howling at Swamped using Sparks as a shield, haha. That is some mustache twirling posting.
     
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    the chances are diminishing but I really want Swamped to win this ;;

    she taught me how to be good scum. GO SWAMPED GO
     
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    It's 10% luck
    20% skill
    15% SK missing the kill
    5% flavor
    50% blame
    And 100% melon ain't surviving this game
     
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    Sawneeks Queen Doppelpopolis

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    she is the original Mafia Queen for a reason :clap:
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    She doesn't need her name up in lights

    She just wants to survive whether it's the lunch or the night kill

    She feels so unlike everybody else, alone

    In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know her

    But fuck 'em, she knows the roles, it's not about majority

    It's all about the subtlety and killing PRs

    Making a story, making sure her cover stays up

    That means when she puts it down, Zeke's pickin' it up
     
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    Lmao you were thinking a whole day for that don't lie.
     
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    cabot Why.

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    i said should have been cleared by now. she shouldnt be alive at this stage
     
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    Sawneeks Queen Doppelpopolis

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    If you're up for it I can help you run Scooby-Doo. Everything involved in gamerunning isn't too hard, you really just got to make sure you're there to make sure everything isn't on fire and to start/end days. Among a couple other things.

    BUT it's a lot of fun and a totally different perspective on the game since you know all of the pieces and just get to sit back and watch them move. And if it ends up being too much don't worry, that's what I'd be there for and to help out just with the general running of things. :>
     
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    lokiduck aw yiss mothafuckin breadcrumbs

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    I'm honestly curious if OA can possibly turn this around to prevent being lunched. If not, then it'll all come down to the night actions to night to see who wins. XD
     
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    Sawneeks Queen Doppelpopolis

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    Hmmmm. OA has good points there about Swamped but i'm worried people are just set in the lunch right now. :<
     
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    OA is also getting hosed by Zeke.

    Always kill Zeke. Always.

    That's my one mafia lesson. Zeke is always scum and when he's not you should kill him to eliminate the possibility.
     
  46. Fantomas

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    I think OA is making a good case against Swamped here. Zeke ultimately won't care which one he votes for, I think he'd rather let Town, aka Stan and Kits, choose for him, so it's ultimately how much OA sways them at the end of the day.
     
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    I'm not sure it'll be enough this day phase.

    Also, Zeke will probably want OA gone for the very reason you think they'll sway town this phase. If OA can catch the sent the game is over. OA is coming in without the prior game states clouding their reads. If it were me I'd prefer that kill today and try for swamped tonight.

    Of course I'd be wrong, but either way I'd want to get to the next day phase without either.
     
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    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    Really like that big OA post
     
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    lokiduck aw yiss mothafuckin breadcrumbs

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    Ooooh Stan is looking into Swamped... maybe something good can come from this.
     
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    I feel like going back in the thread might put him on to Zeke. Though that might just be me wanting a SK win.
     
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    nin1000 Chilean German Madman

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    I am currently biting my nails!!!
    If they go for OA I will scream and laugh
     
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    I still find it funny no one brings up Zeke's final vote from the last day phase. It just felt so Un-Zeke like.

    That said, I really like OA. I hope they play again in a game I'm playing in. <3
     
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    im sad no one even addressed the point i made about the voting on d2.5 concerning melon

    was it really just a bad point?
    feels like just my weakness as a player coming through
     
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    cabot Why.

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    this is going to be a very sad day end isn't it.

    OA has done well with what he had though.
     
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    Yeah, OA made some great posts and is the only Town player who is on the right track here now, but I guess it wasn't quite enough.

    I do hope this gets him to sign up for another game soon though, I'd like to see some more of what his playstyle is like, and maybe not coming in as a replacement in a ridiculously tense MyLo spot haha.
     
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    Hmm, why is Zeke pushing OA, does he realize he basically loses if OA is lynched?
    OA Lynch= 2-1-1, Swamped is the person with the most chances here. Let's see all the scenarios.
    1. Swamped shoots Zeke/ Zeke shoots Swamped. This is game over for Swamped and a very lucky win for town most likely.
    2. Swamped shoots Zeke/ Zeke shoots Kits/Stan. Game over and Swamped wins.
    3. Swamped shoots Town/ Zeke shoots another Town. Swamped wins vs 1 Mafia because of the BP.
    4. Swamped and Zeke shoot the same Town. Town has lost, Swamped claims SK and town prefers to give wins to 3rd Parties, most likely a Swamped win.
    Zeke should not be pushing for OA.
     
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    Hmm, he might be thinking Swamped has no BP, that's info only we know.
     
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    For the last scenario, remember that we made it so that Swamped auto-wins in a 1-1-1 final because of the weirdness that can happen with that. Her win con is being alive with "1 Town and 1 Mafia, or less, remaining" so if the day begins at 1-1-1 or just 1-1, she wins the game.
     
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    So if they don't lunch her today she wins?
     
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    Basically. It can still go to a 2-1 if she shoots Zeke and he hits her BP vest, or if they somehow lunched Zeke today she'd still be in for a 2-1 LyLo tomorrow, but that's it.
     
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    Oh yeah that's right, although even without that I think she would still win for the reason I mentioned.
     
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    Shouldn't it be a tie with Zeke then? In a 1-1-1 Swamped completes her wincon, exits the game, then that makes Zeke complete his and win too?

    I'm protecting my winrate
     
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    Swamped wins and the game ends, she does not exit.
     
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    I'm not sure if I remember how we settled on this in review. If the 1-1-1 day is allowed to play out, it's impossible for Town to win no matter who gets voted out. For Mafia and SK, Mafia's win con needs them to have a majority "or nothing can prevent this from occurring" so the SK being alive there can still prevent them from getting their majority, by killing them. Technically, Swamped isn't "exiting" the game with her win con, she would just win while the others lose.
     
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    Zeke I fought for you

    and my winrate
     
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    And all of the above is assuming she had spent her BP vest already. The fact she still has that in endgame means the only way for her to lose now is getting voted out.
     
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    Jesus that OA vote is so bad I just can't believe this is really the direction today has gone. RIP Town.
     
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    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    Can you tell them to submit night actions so we can end it tonight? no need to wait 30 hours for it.
     
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    Natiko Administrator

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    Town deserves to lose, really hope they don't luck into a win by Swamped and Zeke shooting each other.
     
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  72. Fantomas

    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    Yeah, as soon as I get kills in from Zeke and Swamped I'll end the night.
     
  73. Natiko

    Natiko Administrator

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    OA you played really well for the crappy situation you walked into. You should definitely play some more - next time maybe you won't walk into essentially a building burning lol
     
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  75. turmoil7

    turmoil7 more than six maelstroms

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    You did well OA

    I wonder who has the best odds now
     
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  76. Faddy

    Faddy of, having, or involving transitory whims

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    Swamped wins if she or Zeke kills a town player. Mafia just lost.

    Town can still win if Swamped and Zeke cross shoot.
     
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  77. nin1000

    nin1000 Chilean German Madman

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    Okay damn, here we go
     
  78. Fantomas

    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    It's looking like Swamped is going to win, Zeke submitted his kill on Kits. I just need Swamped to submit her kill to end the game officially, but yeah, as it stands the day would start in a 1-1-1 which is a SK victory.
     
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  79. nin1000

    nin1000 Chilean German Madman

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    Swamped you can do it.
    You go girl!!!
     
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  80. nin1000

    nin1000 Chilean German Madman

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    I just saw this and I can't stop laughing.
    Well done hahaha
     
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  81. Z-beat

    Z-beat only here for the flavor

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    [​IMG]

    Sidenote: have we had a SAW game yet?
     
  82. Natiko

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    Nope
     
  83. Aeleus

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    SK for the win!

    Though I do feel bad for my fellow townmates/enemy scum mates, a sad way for our sides to lose.
     
  84. Geno

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    Congrats Swamped, I kind of feel bad for Zeke and Fireblend, they played well. Town deserved to lose like Natiko said.
     
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  85. Aeleus

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    This sounds great, I'll make a post asking to adopt it then.
     
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  86. Fantomas

    Fantomas Confirmed Town

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    And there it is. GG Swamped, sorry Town and Scum, you got Neutraled.
     
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  87. Swamped

    Swamped Dazzling Mafia Queen

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    Aw thanks for the kind words here! Not sure I deserved it but, this was still a super fun game to play!
     
  88. rac

    rac whatever

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    reading town deserved to lose hurts but i can't disagree
    if i posted that last day more of my thoughts or something
     
  89. Natiko

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    It's not an indictment on town's play the entire time or anything. Zeke did a killer job so I can't fault you all for ultimately losing, but that last day phase was rough. Some of that is probably due to time zones, but not nearly enough re-evaluation was going on. There was no reason to be so skeptical of a vanilla claim over the miller claim. I think more of our role madness games of late have had a vanilla than haven't. Just seemed like no one was willing to give OA a fair shake though and kits ultimately just tossed that vote out and walked away, sealing town's fate.
     
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  90. lokiduck

    lokiduck aw yiss mothafuckin breadcrumbs

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    I just finished reading scum chat and it was a really good read.

    The best part was Zeke getting so excited about the :truffleshuffle: gif, but it was cool seeing him plan out how the fake claim was going to work so it was believable.

    I’m both now scared of facing scum him again and also hope to be scummates with him one day. c:
     
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  91. Nomad Sparkster

    Nomad Sparkster Ask me about Buck Bumble

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    Wild shit I survived as scum as long as I did in this game

    I get flabbergasted when I get compared to Sorian or Blargh
     
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  92. Nomad Sparkster

    Nomad Sparkster Ask me about Buck Bumble

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    Swamped was Neutral?
     
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