Scum Thread Some Real, Evil Weirdos

Yeah I guess I could crumb a check again and wait one more day phase. In that case I'll probably green check Kits for now, she seems like a good investigation target and it gives us a good excuse to night kill her.
I won't be around for day start anyway, so I'll see where the wind is blowing when I catch up and decide what to do then.


Sounds good to me.
Meat, can you do the heavy licking on Gorlak then?

I've crumbed a hide on Kitsu on N1, which is why I had a "solid town read" on her this last phase. If I have to claim, I'll probably say that I was baiting a night kill on me as a doctor while crumbing my hides - since they would whiff on me if I targeted someone town.
 
This is the second message regarding VA/Ezekel, and they both seem ominous. I don’t think this involves Monkey’s role since we have zero reasons to doubt her targeting Mao, but I’m thinking VA could be the neutral?

Those messages don’t seem “typed out” by another player and more like a warning thing sent through Nat.
 
Don’t think they come together with this package either, since Nat specifically says who got the item while the message is open ended.

Weird that we got targeted twice in a row by both actions tho.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Some weird shit happening in this game.
The question is if I was blocked or if something happened with Fran. Could he be a commuter?

To me those messages sound like someone is baiting us to night kill VA/Zeke. Maybe we could mark them next.

Why would someone send an empty package? Maybe the content is randomized?
 
Some weird shit happening in this game.
The question is if I was blocked or if something happened with Fran. Could he be a commuter?

To me those messages sound like someone is baiting us to night kill VA/Zeke. Maybe we could mark them next.

Why would someone send an empty package? Maybe the content is randomized?
I think the package is randomized or the sender needs to send a random one.

I think Fran could be a commuter, yeah.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Kitsunelaine said:
I explained it before but I'll re-state it anyway because I'm nice like that sometimes. I targeted Gorlak because I felt like it was possible that, in the case of Gorlak being the Neutral, he might have been smart enough to fake being targeted by himself on the first Night in order to bait players into reacting favourably. It's not exactly a far fetched strategy, but I guess not everyone is outside-of-the-box as I am in terms of potential Mafia strategies, ahaha.
It's funny because I thought about using exactly that strategy, lol.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Claim list:

Confirmed Roles:
turmoil7 - Die-Hardman the Adrenaline Junkie: Survives another day phase when night killed. #502
KetKat - Naked Norman Reedus the Motion Detector: Is informed how many actions target her during the night. #506
Maolfunction - CDT6 Operative the Dying: Dies after D4 Hated: Takes one less vote for Turbo. #1180
Fantomas - Heartman the Loved: Takes one more vote for Turbo. #1183

Unconfirmed Roles:
Dr. Monkey - Mama the Spirit Mother: Can ask questions to the other side (dead players). First claimed #508. Further information #620
Kitsunelaine - Backpack: Detects weird spooky thing. First claimed #623. Investigated Fanto N1 (negative result) #629. Investigated Gorlak N2 (negative result) #1201

Other claims:
Gorlak - was marked by a hand print N1#529 #642
Gorlak - was blocked N2 #1229
Kopite - was marked N2 #1227
Kalor - was switched from Vanilla to ??? #1341

So what we (as scum) know:
Kitsunelaine - Probably detects Fando
Fran - Commuter
Maolfunction - Doomed, switched to Hated
malus - Eraser
Fat4all - ???
Kalor - Vanilla, switched to ???
Ketkat - Self Watcher
Vincent Alexander - ???
Kopite - ???
turmoil7 - Die Hard
Meatwad - Roleblocker
Dr. Monkey - Medium
Fandorin - Marker
Gorlak - ??? (active role)
Fantomas - Loved

someone gives packages
someone sends messages into scum chat
someone switches roles
Gorlak can't be any of those roles since he was blocked.
 
Gorlak knows he was blocked and we had a bunch of other active roles in play last phase. He could be the game's doctor.

I'm worried VA is some neutral, though I think we are strong enough as a 3-man scum team to consider this too much. Worth noting tho.
 
Heat check - do people feel I should extend the day 24 hours due to the deathly quiet Saturday we experienced. Please respond via PM. I will make the decision within 3 hours so that it's not a 'last second' type of thing. This is why I usually try and avoid weekend phases, but if the players think it's fine then I'll leave it.
Can we talk through here? I wouldn't mind an extension now, but I don't think we have enough topics to go through for more 24 hours at this point.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Can we talk through here? I wouldn't mind an extension now, but I don't think we have enough topics to go through for more 24 hours at this point.
Sure - you can discuss as a team and I'll weigh your decision as three.
 
@malus and @briefs_cat , what do you think? I'm afraid an extension can get more people into Meat, but at the same time you could put some thoughts out so we can lead them into Kalor's or Zeke's lynch. Those are our options at the moment.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I really want to claim cop now, but I don't know if it would bite us in the ass in the end.
My plan would be to green check Monkey and say that I targeted Fran last night. At first I thought I was role blocked because of the no result, but Gorlak claiming blocked and Fran asking if he was targeted made me realize he must be a commuter. Since commuters are usually town I would also sort of green check Fran.

The implication of that would be that the Mao train on D1 was pure. This could take pressure off Meatwad, because why would scum ignore a town wagon when one of them is on the line?

On the other hand I will not be able to pull off a red check because I would definitely be blocked next night. Unless we perform operation Hydro Cannon and use up my bulletproof, lol.
And I have a feeling something big is going to go down next day phase with Fat4All hinting at changing when a certain state is met and the role switcher still afoot.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Are you guys okay with me claiming?
I'm a bit nervous because so far all my scum gambits have gone horribly wrong.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Kitsunelaine said:
Okay looking back on it it IS a reasonable inferrence but it's still a bit of an assumption and not immediately obvious. Definitely not the slam dunk I was thinking I had lol
Phew, sweating blood here, lol.
 
Are you guys okay with me claiming?
I'm a bit nervous because so far all my scum gambits have gone horribly wrong.
lol haha

I don't think you should now. You have a BP and someone town can maybe confirm this - you can use that and say you were saving your shot for later as you didn't get marked or shot at night.
 
Damn, I guess I'll have to claim the vig then. I had already crumbed the Kitsu hide with the protect and signalling that I was baiting a NK on me, but now that's done.
 
I really want to claim cop now, but I don't know if it would bite us in the ass in the end.
My plan would be to green check Monkey and say that I targeted Fran last night. At first I thought I was role blocked because of the no result, but Gorlak claiming blocked and Fran asking if he was targeted made me realize he must be a commuter. Since commuters are usually town I would also sort of green check Fran.

The implication of that would be that the Mao train on D1 was pure. This could take pressure off Meatwad, because why would scum ignore a town wagon when one of them is on the line?

On the other hand I will not be able to pull off a red check because I would definitely be blocked next night. Unless we perform operation Hydro Cannon and use up my bulletproof, lol.
And I have a feeling something big is going to go down next day phase with Fat4All hinting at changing when a certain state is met and the role switcher still afoot.
I don't think this would save Meat, but it can be a good time as any for the claim.
 
SO! Right now we should figure things out. Do we want the extra kill right now or do we hang on for one more night and actually kill Gorlak this phase? Postponing the double NK would give town some room to breathe and not force mass claim now with so many players alive - it's clear we need to flip someone erased before we are all forced to mass claim. I think I won't be lynched next phase despite probably attracting some attention on the Meat bus.

I don't think using the erase + red check combo is our best bet now without Meat, so I think we should just use it on someone who's likely to bite soon like Kalor or Zeke. Them not flipping could cause some good confusion for us and mess with voting track. I'll post color coded with our alignments and see what comes off. But considering the above, our kill options I'm considering:

Go for the extra kill
We mark Fran or Monkey and NK the KItsu or the unmarked between Fran / Monkey - it's very possible for Fran to be protected this night phase tho and I think we should consider that Monkey is actually a neutral changing roles and making this mess.

Wait another night and go
We NK Gorlak and go back a phase with the mark kills - while marking either Fran, Monkey or Kitsu.
 
What do you think? I need to come up with a fake claim on the double and I'm not sure where to go to. I'll probably settle with something weird - maybe backup or town copy role? Hell, I don't know.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
SO! Right now we should figure things out. Do we want the extra kill right now or do we hang on for one more night and actually kill Gorlak this phase? Postponing the double NK would give town some room to breathe and not force mass claim now with so many players alive - it's clear we need to flip someone erased before we are all forced to mass claim. I think I won't be lynched next phase despite probably attracting some attention on the Meat bus.

I don't think using the erase + red check combo is our best bet now without Meat, so I think we should just use it on someone who's likely to bite soon like Kalor or Zeke. Them not flipping could cause some good confusion for us and mess with voting track. I'll post color coded with our alignments and see what comes off. But considering the above, our kill options I'm considering:

Go for the extra kill
We mark Fran or Monkey and NK the KItsu or the unmarked between Fran / Monkey - it's very possible for Fran to be protected this night phase tho and I think we should consider that Monkey is actually a neutral changing roles and making this mess.

Wait another night and go
We NK Gorlak and go back a phase with the mark kills - while marking either Fran, Monkey or Kitsu.
I think we should go for the extra kill. The longer we wait the fewer possible mark targets we have and we risk ending up in a situation where our marks get lunched.
I agree on the red check. I'll probably green check Fat4All for being on the Monkey train.
Killing Fran will make me look very suspicious on the d1 Mao train so I would rather not kill him right now. I'd mark Fran, kill Monkey and erase Kalor.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
As for your fake claim, universal backup could be fun. This would mean you are now Turmoils die hard role.
 
I think we should go for the extra kill. The longer we wait the fewer possible mark targets we have and we risk ending up in a situation where our marks get lunched.
I agree on the red check. I'll probably green check Fat4All for being on the Monkey train.
Killing Fran will make me look very suspicious on the d1 Mao train so I would rather not kill him right now. I'd mark Fran, kill Monkey and erase Kalor.
Alright, I agree on this. I'm worried about Kitsu checking me since I think that could be an auto kill, but killing Monkey might be best now.
 
Marking Fran could be dangerous though - I'm supposing he could be "mark killed" even if commuting, which would give out the nature of the mark.
 
Day 1 Vote said:
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

turmoil7 (5 votes)
Meatwad - #213
Kalor - #280
Vincent Alexander - #442
Dr. Monkey - #450
malus - #490

Fran (3 votes)
turmoil7 - #472
Gorlak - #478
Maolfunction - #479

Maolfunction (3 votes)
Ketkat - #449
Fantomas - #458
Fran - #461

Meatwad (1 votes)
Fandorin - #364

Fat4all (1 votes)
Kopite - #272

Gorlak (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #109
Fantomas - #168 #187

Not voting: Fat4all
[/quote
Day 2 Vote said:
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start - Day End

Maolfunction (5 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #797
Kalor - #864
Fat4all - #1,027
Kopite - #1,102
Meatwad - #1,165

Meatwad (3 votes)
Fantomas - #1,035
Fandorin - #1,086
Gorlak - #1,173

Fran (1 votes)
Maolfunction - #832

Not voting: Fran, malus, Dr. Monkey, EzekelRAGE

Day 3 Vote said:
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====

Meatwad (5 votes)
Fandorin - #1,423
Kopite - #1,441
Dr. Monkey - #1,483
Kalor - #1,487
Gorlak - #1,819

EzekelRAGE (1 votes)
malus - #1,407

Dr. Monkey (1 votes)
Kitsunelaine - #1,652

Fandorin (1 votes)
Meatwad - #1,823

Kalor (1 votes)
Fran - #1,434

Not voting: Fat4all, EzekelRAGE

Votecounts with what town knows - with Gorlak as confirmed town because w/e.

I think we can push a bit on Fran due to the D1 vote, despite the commute claim against Meat. He had a pure wagon on him and was also the only one on the Maol wagon, with Meat as the scum one.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Alright, I agree on this. I'm worried about Kitsu checking me since I think that could be an auto kill, but killing Monkey might be best now.
I think Monkey becomes more dangerous the more dead people there are. Not that I think Meatwad would give us away, but the danger of spec chat figuring stuff out just increased dramatically with him joining. But I agree that Kits checking you would probably end in you being lunched.

Marking Fran could be dangerous though - I'm supposing he could be "mark killed" even if commuting, which would give out the nature of the mark.
Oh right, I didn't consider that. Though without a vig claim, I think it will be obvious what killed them unless our normal NK is somehow blocked.

Votecounts with what town knows - with Gorlak as confirmed town because w/e.

I think we can push a bit on Fran due to the D1 vote, despite the commute claim against Meat. He had a pure wagon on him and was also the only one on the Maol wagon, with Meat as the scum one.
I could also erase Fran, so it looks like he was indeed the scum on the Maol wagon if he is lunched.
 
I think Monkey becomes more dangerous the more dead people there are. Not that I think Meatwad would give us away, but the danger of spec chat figuring stuff out just increased dramatically with him joining. But I agree that Kits checking you would probably end in you being lunched.


Oh right, I didn't consider that. Though without a vig claim, I think it will be obvious what killed them unless our normal NK is somehow blocked.


I could also erase Fran, so it looks like he was indeed the scum on the Maol wagon if he is lunched.
Hummm, this is harder than I thought initially.

I don't think spec is giving Monkey info though. I don't buy that.

Erasing Fran could work, but I'm not sure we can actually get him lynched and someone NK'd without a flip would obviously be town anyway. We should aim to lynch the erased person I think.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
In case you are investigated by Kits you can still claim you just exit the game after marking four people. Then we just have to make sure there are never more than three marks.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
In case you are investigated by Kits you can still claim you just exit the game after marking four people. Then we just have to make sure there are never more than three marks.
Though I guess that's a pretty transparent claim...
 
Someone would die with our commands this phase, and either way I'd get lynched if I admitted to that - even if it's not Fran.
 
I don't know. Did Kits leave any hint who she was going to investigate?
She said she'd go for "town blind spots" based on the day's discussion. I think Meat leaving a giant WIFOM on me with that final vote could get her attention.

She's pretty carefree with her actions so far, so I'd bet she will investigate either me or Monkey.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Okay. Let's wait one more phase before killing Kits.
Kits is still convinced she checks for neutrals and the WIFOM doesn't scream neutral to me. I also don't want to confirm Kopite and Fran as town just yet. Once the extra kill happens and no neutral exits it will be obvious anyway.

I feel like: "some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I am willing to make" :/ I hope I'm not stupid here.
 
Hahahha, nah it makes sense. I hadn't thought about the fact that she's still looking for a neutral. Let's hope she checks Monkey or someone else.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I just hope she doesn't "kill" me just by targetting me, since she'd have another night to find me as the NK should be the last action in the night.
I don't think that's the case. That would be like a conditional vigilante that only kills if the right target is hit.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You have received the following message:

I know who you are, and I know who you are aligned with. You have two choices.

Join me or I let town in on your secret. The choice is yours.

In your first post of the day mention the color purple, to join me. Mention yellow if you don’t want to join me. If you do the former, we can work together to win. Tell any of your potential partners to mention purple too, so I don’t push a lynch onto them. Choosing the latter does not end well for you.
 
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malus

#1 official chartmaker
lol, the bluff would have worked better if they had mentioned a name or what our alignment is.

I guess the sender only knows that their message goes to someone with a non-town alignment. They don't even seem to be aware that the message is posted directly in the night chat and doesn't go to one single person.
 
With regular NKs and the extra mark kill this night, we need 2 more mislynches. I don't think we are at immediate risk this phase - Kalor, I think will be lynched.

Things get complicated after this though as we narrow it down to Zeke, Kitsu, Fat4All and either Fran/Gorlak or Kopite. Getting Fran or Gorlak out would be best, but there's luck and maybe protection in there. Best case we go into D5 with Zeke, Fat4All and Kopite - which could still be rather tough for us to pull through considering we would also have to full claim.

While I'm not confident on my own fake claim (Fat4All seems to have softed a backup, Zeke is probably the our secret messanger), I won't flip. I'm worried that if you green check someone else without me flipping people will partner you with your target and lynch you first. At the same time, I'm not sure going the opposite way with full gambit mode is a viable option: I can red check you or vice versa - I'm erased so the fact that you won't be able to prove your check could backfire, still, you've crumbed it already and still have that BP for some good credit.

I've realized this post is full on paranoia and probably not helpful, but I think we should consider our options throughly.
 
My guess for the remaining PRs:

Fran: Commuter, probably not even-night limited.

Kalor: Role Thief after conversion from vanilla. Still hasn’t stolen another role.

Fat4All: some kind of Backup, maybe not the usual “first killed town PR”.

Kitsu: what she claims, I guess. Very probably there to find me with her investigation role.

Zeke: weird Gossiper or w/e the hell that role is.

Kopite: Town Gifter, that sends randomized gifts to target.

Gorlak: No idea, something active I guess. The doctor maybe?
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I think if I full claim cop we can spin the "only 1 more scum" narrative. Once Kalor dies without flip it could look like he was the weird spooky thing. There also won't be any new marks which would also make it more believable. If they instead lunch me, you should still be save.
Also I can't wait much longer to claim or it will look very suspicious.
 
Didn’t see you had claimed. I think 2 shot cop is already too much malus, so you’re alright with that. No need to deviate from the fake claim I think.
 
Didn’t see you had claimed. I think 2 shot cop is already too much malus, so you’re alright with that. No need to deviate from the fake claim I think.
Checked and I was wrong. Fake claim is an unlimited cop afte rall. Regardless, I think being a 2-shot cop is ideal and something you should think about when posting - anymore and we're fucked and you would actually be too OP for this especially with Kitsu in the game.

malus, if we pull off this phase with the Kalor lynch + NK + Marked Kill, I think you can also motion that you got your BP hit the next phase. Someone town would vouch for you and we'd gain some credit with that.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Fat4all said:
alright so i haven’t gone to bed quite yet because I’ve been drinking, I think I’m gonna go ahead and claim first and then go to bed



I’m BB, the bridge baby.



I started the game vanilla, but with a caveat: when specific players die (I wasn’t told who), I inherit their role. After my role changes, then that players role becomes my role, it won’t change again from other specific character deaths.



Well, after Naked Norman Reedus was killed Night 1, I became a Motion Detector.



Night 2, no one targeted me.

Night 3, one player targeted me.



Going by what we know, this isn’t an issue, but here’s the kicker:



My role changed again Night 3, and to one of Monkeys roles they can give away. And then Monkey won.



So









this will need to be explained



good night
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malus

#1 official chartmaker
Checked and I was wrong. Fake claim is an unlimited cop afte rall. Regardless, I think being a 2-shot cop is ideal and something you should think about when posting - anymore and we're fucked and you would actually be too OP for this especially with Kitsu in the game.

malus, if we pull off this phase with the Kalor lynch + NK + Marked Kill, I think you can also motion that you got your BP hit the next phase. Someone town would vouch for you and we'd gain some credit with that.
I was going to claim limited shots anyway. Just looking like I'm baiting the NK.
 
We potentially have a doctor, and possibly another protective role if these packages are good things. We had a good lunch and night. I think we can save massclaim for another day. That being said, I've no problem claiming if everyone else wants to.
Yup. Kopite is the gifter.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I feel bad for Kits. :(
But she should really look at the evidence. Her role is in conflict with mine and Fat4All said I couldn't have targeted him. There's really only one valid conclusion.
 
I feel bad for Kits. :(
But she should really look at the evidence. Her role is in conflict with mine and Fat4All said I couldn't have targeted him. There's really only one valid conclusion.
Yeah, town is towning on this. I’m trying not to talk too much about this but unfortunately it’s the only topic going on right now.
 
I’m kind of doubting my own gut on malus. It seems like when I claimed I was certain I had caught them out mechanically, but now I’m not so sure. Them seemingly having a bit of a change of heart on Frans motivations following Frans claim on Day 3 makes me think they could be telling the truth about their role (either that or they were already planning their claim the next day).


I’m having some doubts about Kits as we get closer to EoD. It kind of seems like they want to be turned to prove a point but I dunno if I buy it all that much. They’ve been poking around just as much as anyone else while saying “well just flip me” at the same time. Kinda feels like its being played up a bit.


I think there is a decent chance either malus or Kits is lying/bluffing, at this moment I’mI think it is more likely to be Kitsunelaine.The ‘call my bluff’ vibe may just be theatrical, but combined with what little has resultedfrom their claim/targets and the like, it may just be an attempt to seem more sincere. If one were to flip, I feel Kits is the better option of the two.


Vote: Kitsunelaine

Vote: Kitsunelaine


*truffleshuffle*

I think that’s one away from a turbo.

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Damn, I just can't not vote scum. I'm like the ultimate bus driver.

But anyway, that was great. Didn't thing we would get Kitsu out like this.
 
Damn, I got invited to a gossip chat with Doggo. Guess that's what he got turned to - I'll need to come up with a claim ASAP I guess.
 
As a receiver, I can't say that the packages are connected exactly to the handprints - I just don't see scum having packages and marks as scum powers like this, considering both notify the player that received them and have happened every night so far.

Goddamn me holy shit. I slipped hard here hahah.

Praying hard no one realizes this.
 
malus we gotta talk about this lol

I’m pretty sure Kopite is the gifter like I talked about below.
My guess for the remaining PRs:

Fran: Commuter, probably not even-night limited.

Kalor: Role Thief after conversion from vanilla. Still hasn’t stolen another role.

Fat4All: some kind of Backup, maybe not the usual “first killed town PR”.

Kitsu: what she claims, I guess. Very probably there to find me with her investigation role.

Zeke: weird Gossiper or w/e the hell that role is.

Kopite: Town Gifter, that sends randomized gifts to target.

Gorlak: No idea, something active I guess. The doctor maybe?

Yup. Kopite is the gifter.
I’m pretty sure that I was right about this list and that Gorlak is the doctor.

Kopite is the most probable one to catch my slip + he’s the one only that knows you’re the other person he sent a package to. If he shares that next phase, this could really fuck us up so I think we NEED to kill him this phase, even though he’s already marked which means we would have a 1/3 chance of wasting our extra kill for “double killing” him.

If he wakes up dead, you just keep quiet about the package and don’t share that information at all. If shit hits the fan and someone picks on that, I’d still be able to say I just misremembered or phrased it badly, but not confident at all that would stick.

I’m really sorry for the clutch!

What do you think?
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Goddamn me holy shit. I slipped hard here hahah.

Praying hard no one realizes this.
lol, I noticed that.

I'm not sure if killing Kopite is really necessary. If you look at the last day phase I think they would believe it if you said you just misremembered, but I've made wrong calls before so there's that.
The problem with killing Kopite is, if we do hit that 1/3 chance we will need an additional mislunch to win. If all our kills go through we will be at 6-2 tomorrow and then 4-2 the next day phase which is MYLO. If one of our kills is blocked we will only be at 7-2 and 5-2 respectively and we will additionally have to go through a 3-2 day phase.

Also about Gorlak being a doctor: Do you get informed if you're role blocked in that case?

By the way @Natiko: If Fando marked someone tonight, would they be considered for the random kill as well?
 
lol, I noticed that.

I'm not sure if killing Kopite is really necessary. If you look at the last day phase I think they would believe it if you said you just misremembered, but I've made wrong calls before so there's that.
The problem with killing Kopite is, if we do hit that 1/3 chance we will need an additional mislunch to win. If all our kills go through we will be at 6-2 tomorrow and then 4-2 the next day phase which is MYLO. If one of our kills is blocked we will only be at 7-2 and 5-2 respectively and we will additionally have to go through a 3-2 day phase.

Also about Gorlak being a doctor: Do you get informed if you're role blocked in that case?

By the way @Natiko: If Fando marked someone tonight, would they be considered for the random kill as well?
I hadn’t thought about marking someone else to increase the odds, hopefully we can do that.

My main issue is that we will have to mass claim tomorrow and mine sucks, and if I’m lynched with Kopite alive he’ll force you to say you got a package and then anyone who catches that slip would end us.

About my fake claim specifically, I went through Pedro’s game data for some credible fake claim (yes, I’m that desperate) and found this Naminé role from Bear’s Kingdom Hearts Mafia which just gives me the power to vote from the grave for one phase after I die. I’ll claim Generic Soldier Something and just call it that. It’s not the worst claim, but it’s nothing special. Unfortunately nothing else I found would stick, like Sleepwalker which would only make sense if I had claimed as well after Fat claimed only a single visit on him.

But about your count, if all our kills go through we will actually be on MYLO this next phase: we will be at 4Town / 2Scum on D5, and another myslunch + kill would end the game with 2Town / 2Scum on D6.
 
On Gorlak, I’ve seen doctors get notified about roleblocks, and maybe he was on Fantomas on N2. It’s also possible that he protected Monkey on N3 too and caused the NK’less night.
 
We should also consider that Gorlak maybe got a 1-shot kill with his package, if Kopite’s role is more like an Inventor. This would fit as 2 protective roles would be too strong for a game this size + to factor in the chance that scum can get an useless BP like we did.

Hopefully he doesn’t shoot me in the face with it if he did.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
lol, I noticed that.

I'm not sure if killing Kopite is really necessary. If you look at the last day phase I think they would believe it if you said you just misremembered, but I've made wrong calls before so there's that.
The problem with killing Kopite is, if we do hit that 1/3 chance we will need an additional mislunch to win. If all our kills go through we will be at 6-2 tomorrow and then 4-2 the next day phase which is MYLO. If one of our kills is blocked we will only be at 7-2 and 5-2 respectively and we will additionally have to go through a 3-2 day phase.

Also about Gorlak being a doctor: Do you get informed if you're role blocked in that case?

By the way @Natiko: If Fando marked someone tonight, would they be considered for the random kill as well?
No, the PM explicitly says one of the three will die. Sorry friends.
 
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