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[Aeleus]

Now ynnek is in a room with me and A, i don’t move at night and neither does A. What is the point of ynnek’s decision here? (Or am I wwrong and kyan is in here, I didn’t look, this is from memory). It means ynnek is wasting his own role as written.

Asked him about room choice this is what he said
"Looks like everyone who has actually moved today are pretty high up on my town list right now. I refrained from checking on our room last night, but I wonder if I had your power would have triggered mine if you were targeted?

I'd probably want to room with Stan since we can't really confirm their role without killing them."

No idea why he didn't go to the quarters though

 

[Kyanrute]

Ynnek even wanted to check Stan and asked for opinions on movement. Then he went with this.

 

[weemadarthur]

What if feps and ynnek were in a room, and vere invited feps to chat?

 

[weemadarthur]

How did I manage to move to the top of everyone’s town lists after this game start? *totally not asking for next scum roll*

 

[Kyanrute]

If feps ever activates himself before endgame, he is scum. He has no reason to do it before that.

 

[weemadarthur]

I’m just really not liking ynnek lately. His ideas seem to be to introduce fud.

 

[weemadarthur]

If feps ever activates himself before endgame, he is scum. He has no reason to do it before that.

Hey, we could ask him.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ask him what?

 

[weemadarthur]

3 people got away with failing the post count min and we didn’t even turbo?
Can we kill 5 people in a day? I’d really like to.

3rd serial killer, please save us!

 

[weemadarthur]

Ask him what?

Ask him to do so.
*but really it’s a movie quote*

 

[Kyanrute]

Shoot Stan, lynch feps and Ynnek.

Win game ez.

incoming day start with no gun woe is me

 

[weemadarthur]

Feps may have won something other than a motion detector. Could be a lie.

 

[weemadarthur]

And ynnek used feps’ motion detecting move as an excuse for why my speculation that ynnek might block moves couldn’t be true.

 

[weemadarthur]

If the stuff I completely made up were true, then that could be a connection!

 

[weemadarthur]

But that’s only if ynnek’s role isn’t a lie already. So i’m arguing in circles here. I was trying to figure out who could have stopped zipped from tagging a player, and “ynnek lied” would preclude the thing even happening.

 

[weemadarthur]

Maybe zipped HAD tagged a player and if we didn’t kill him then, wow. I wonder if A would have taken an extra day to die in case of being serial kilt. It’s a night action, right?

 

[weemadarthur]

If I die before maolfunction does, will y’all turn on each other?

 

[weemadarthur]

Anyone got time to reread mafia interactions with Zeke and Ketkat? As far as I’m currently aware, for them to be scum team, it would already be completely plausible. Although ket would be pretty bastard of narf, but hey, I’d laugh.

 

[Aeleus]

If I die before maolfunction does, will y’all turn on each other?

I'll be honest am barely keeping myself from turning on Vere already. I feel like the item stuff is important and he doesn't even think it worth brining up in the day.

Bit of suspicion on Kalor due to role and am feeling ok about kyan.

 

[Kyanrute]

While all the long con theories are hella entertaining, at least when I think of them I always end up with the same result: need to flip other people 1st.

 

[weemadarthur]

I question Kalor the most of this here batch. But I haven’t checked the early game again, apparently he was used a lot. I know sorian used him as an alternate to bae/sorian lunch. But did anyone else?

 

[Kyanrute]

Ket being scum would be more bastard than Zipped's role. If Ynnek isn't scum informative, I'd consider Vere but not sure how fast that lynch would come to fruition. Kalor is the most likely long-conner I'd say but entertaining that needs a feps flip 1st.

 

[weemadarthur]

Yeah for my taste, I really don’t like ynnek wasting his role, and I don’t trust feps’ item claim, and I think they have been in different [interaction groups] of the game, so they’d be a good pair to flip when day starts.

Any other ideas? I’m happy to see pushback.

 

[weemadarthur]

Ket being scum would be more bastard than Zipped's role.

Which is why it would be great!

Dunno if I can make myself believe it though, ket has seemed fairly towny the whole game.

 

[Kyanrute]

I question Kalor the most of this here batch. But I haven’t checked the early game again, apparently he was used a lot. I know sorian used him as an alternate to bae/sorian lunch. But did anyone else?

What I can quickly see was that while it was Sorian that revitalized the Kalor train with his vote, mostly known townies were the ones to point out how the train just suddenly died.

But really, why would Sorian make the trains two scum and a townie instead of one of each?

 

[weemadarthur]

I guess vere’s item claim is a bit suspect too, now that i’m looking back.

Vere you seemed awfully worried about me when I claimed. Although it’s consistent with not inviting me here lol.

Should i submit to spec “Is Fran fucking with us?” Per stan’s suggestion from an earlier phase?

 

[weemadarthur]

Zeke getting a bomb defuser ?
Do we believe it?

Hmmm.

 

[Kyanrute]

I don't see why not. I imagine the list of items was pre-set and the defuse kit or whatever was put on purpose for the last auctions in case the defuser role died early. Basic balance.

 

[Aeleus]

Zeke getting a bomb defuser ?
Do we believe it?

Hmmm.

Probably given he was basically inviting himself to jump on top of a bomb

 

[weemadarthur]

Kyan why did you let nin end a day so early?
So many day ppl couldn’t get their stuff in, what did you think was going to happen?

 

[weemadarthur]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/co...ound-like-a-crazy-person.165845/post-28844560

I SILL haven’t done this. Ugh wee, do more work.

 

[Kyanrute]

Kyan why did you let nin end a day so early?
So many day ppl couldn’t get their stuff in, what did you think was going to happen?

I expected better from nin. I did say that he should talk about whatever he was going to do, should it be drastic like ending the day early. I wanted him to explain himself. When it became apparent he wouldn't do any of that - he kept on avoiding my posts where I wanted him to say more - I just entertained him. I did assume it wasn't going to be an override since using it like that would be stupid. In addition there was the possibility that he had won some item and at that point the results could've been anything. I expected him to be reasonable, he was not.

 

[Kyanrute]

I expected better from nin. I did say that he should talk about whatever he was going to do, should it be drastic like ending the day early. I wanted him to explain himself. When it became apparent he wouldn't do any of that - he kept on avoiding my posts where I wanted him to say more - I just entertained him. I did assume it wasn't going to be an override since using it like that would be stupid. In addition there was the possibility that he had won some item and at that point the results could've been anything. I expected him to be reasonable, he was not.

To add to this, the exact thing I was hoping it to be was some sort of a mass alignment check with the votes. Like get two votes on a target and nin gets a result saying whether or not all three share an alignment. Or just if the vote target ain't scum, the people voting for him die and vice versa.

 

[weemadarthur]

Bomb was planted N4. Presumably it wasn't in the quarters, since Ket was forced there last night and we got no fancy message about the spooks being gone. Re-checking suspects...


It is malus and kitchen, isn't it? turmoil was blocked N4. nin was in quarters with Tearable.


MOVE: Library

So malus, Maol or Turmoil are the bomber.

Oh right, Turmoil was blocked N4 so they couldn't have planted the second one.

So between Maol and Malus, I'm thinking Malus after Maol hit that day vig. Unless that was an item power.

I think I agree with this to be honest. Day 4 I was in the Library as the bomb was planted, so by not picking a spot yesterday, I moved to the Quarters and we didn't get a message about the danger passing. Which should leave Malus as the most likely person to have planted stuff, unless Maol's vig shot was an item of some kind

I’ve been trying to be more cooperative with teammates.
It’s y’alls fault I shot malus!

 

[weemadarthur]

I expected better from nin. I did say that he should talk about whatever he was going to do, should it be drastic like ending the day early. I wanted him to explain himself. When it became apparent he wouldn't do any of that - he kept on avoiding my posts where I wanted him to say more - I just entertained him. I did assume it wasn't going to be an override since using it like that would be stupid. In addition there was the possibility that he had won some item and at that point the results could've been anything. I expected him to be reasonable, he was not.

I think your role must be Naive Gambler.

 

[weemadarthur]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/co...ound-like-a-crazy-person.165845/post-28877644

Ok so he’s a serial killer, but this was a good post

 

[Kyanrute]

I think your role must be Naive Gambler.

Yeah, must be. I did the same with Ket after all, took her answer about the passiveness of her role as a confirmation that she was actually confident that that's how it worked. I also expected that she'd comment on my theories and the plays coming from them, should the rationale behind the theories and the plays not be solid after all. There too I was wrong.

 

[weemadarthur]

Zeke is the Invert X Axis of mafia, I swear.

 

[weemadarthur]

*stops being cooperative forever*

 

[Kyanrute]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/co...ound-like-a-crazy-person.165845/post-28877644

Ok so he’s a serial killer, but this was a good post

Too long, did not read. Spam posts like that are scummy.

 

[Verelios]

The dead still don’t think nin should die and it’s not morning so I don’t have last night’s responses. And I am bright enough to not share things where anyone may be watching if I don’t wanna.

You make it sound like scum can manipulate your results.

 

[weemadarthur]

Which room is safe for me to move to? I thought I saw somewhere in my reread that the quarters aren't safe anymore?

HIGHlarious, you Tearable Person you.

tosses...


hmm. empty ice cream boxes at wee.


i will have you know i have killed with ice cream before! fear me!

I hope you’re not mafia, we’ve had SUCH fun this game.

 

[weemadarthur]

You make it sound like scum can manipulate your results.

Dead scum? Possibly.

Got 9 responses to Nin question, 8 said don’t kill, 1 said kill.
This is not much increase from 8 responses on previous day. It’s confusing. Possibly scum aren’t allowed to reply to me because they have been spoiled? Perhaps they are and i must parse it? I do not know this. I only know game runners, reviewers, and people in power over us are not allowed to vote in my polls.

And that I only got as bonus info. I squeezed in an extra question like Aladdin getting a wish out of a genie.

 

[Verelios]

I guess vere’s item claim is a bit suspect too, now that i’m looking back.

Vere you seemed awfully worried about me when I claimed. Although it’s consistent with not inviting me here lol.

Should i submit to spec “Is Fran fucking with us?” Per stan’s suggestion from an earlier phase?

Well, yeah. Your role is unverifiable and somewhat convenient. I still find it somewhat useless and suspect, but people apparently know it as a mafia role so *shrug

 

[Kyanrute]

somewhat useless lol

like anyone would even listen to those dead chumps

survival of the fittest!

not like our we haven't lynched scum since D3!

 

[weemadarthur]

My headcanon is that the bomber needs n people to die via the bomb in order to win and their own death can count for the kill total.

*pats kyaa on back*

 

[weemadarthur]

Well, yeah. Your role is unverifiable and somewhat convenient. I still find it somewhat useless and suspect, but people apparently know it as a mafia role so *shrug

Town of Salem!
Actually Medium is kinda an odd name for it. It’s just a made up role.

*but did wee make it up*

 

[Verelios]

somewhat useless lol

like anyone would even listen to those dead chumps

survival of the fittest!

not like our we haven't lynched scum since D3!

We lunched two SKs <.<

 

[Kyanrute]

*pats kyaa on back*

shiiiiiit it had the suicide clause, I really like that with arsonist variants

yaaay

 

[Verelios]

I'll be honest am barely keeping myself from turning on Vere already. I feel like the item stuff is important and he doesn't even think it worth brining up in the day.

Bit of suspicion on Kalor due to role and am feeling ok about kyan.

What are you referring to? Didn't I claim what stomach medicine did in thread?

 

[Kyanrute]

We lunched two SKs <.<

Hey Zipped had only tagged me and it was me, Ket and feps that were about to die to the bomb. As in you got the SKs but let the rest of the scum team walk by.

scum gang scum gang scum gang

would i really shitpost like this as scum

 

[weemadarthur]

Still rereading history.....lol. Whoever bid 10 against fanto did him a huuuuge favor, fanto do something nice for them later.


malus

Does your role say you only the info if you are killed by lunch or by NK, or is it any-way-you-die, you show the extra data.

OMG i even asked this. I tried, i really did.

 

[weemadarthur]

I like to hedge my bets when manipulating roles.

 

[weemadarthur]

What are you referring to? Didn't I claim what stomach medicine did in thread?

Yes.
A bit on the vague side from my PoV, but yes.

 

[Verelios]

Hey Zipped had only tagged me and it was me, Ket and feps that were about to die to the bomb. As in you got the SKs but let the rest of the scum team walk by.

scum gang scum gang scum gang

would i really shitpost like this as scum

I'm going to say I dunno?

Wait, Zipped tagged Aeleus too though. There was no reason to lie about that when he needed them to not vote him.

 

[Verelios]

OMG i even asked this. I tried, i really did.

This was as bewildering as Kets not being clear about the defusing move.

 

[Kyanrute]

I'm going to say I dunno?

Wait, Zipped tagged Aeleus too though. There was no reason to lie about that when he needed them to not vote him.

I still refuse to believe that. Why target people in the bathroom. Whyyy. Is just dumdum.

 

[Kyanrute]

I still refuse to believe that. Why target people in the bathroom. Whyyy. Is just dumdum.

WAIT FUCK I AM AGAIN EXPECTING THE REASONABLE

fuq

 

[weemadarthur]

Why is it only weems is allowed to test the bathroom, but when I do it to confirm they're telling the truth, it's suddenly not part of my personality.

But I already explained my Hypocrisy Scum Hunting method.

 

[weemadarthur]

@Kalor, did you ever confirm you didn't make a move N1?

If Turmoil is scum, it would be easy for Ynnek to say there was no actions performed in that room because the others are now dead.

Kalor would be the only obstacle for Ynnek to make that gambit.

this only isn’t a contradiction because Kalor is day move, yes?

 

[Kalor]

this only isn’t a contradiction because Kalor is day move, yes?

Yeah, I send the action during the day.

 

[weemadarthur]

Maol isn't the bomber, I refuse to believe that Fran created the role and then decided to throw some vigi shots which don't help the win condition but instead hinder the bomber in every way as a freebie. If we've reached the point where you believe that then I've got some arsonist doctors to sell you.

Arsonist doctor? Sounds fun. That’s what I play role madness FOR!

 

[Kalor]

I feel like I need to reassess who I'm looking at but this has been a tough game to get solid reads with the activity of some people and replacements.

In a normal game I'd lynch nin right now but they're probably town who are just completely lost. Don't feel great about Stan so maybe they'd be one of the people I want to lynch during this double lynch. Especially with Turmoil/Stans claimed roles being somewhat similar and Turmoil was town. I'm weary about Zeke but I only see that role being scum if we only have one scum left, and the increased chance of items was the way of evening the odds. But that seems too risky from a balance perspective to rely on that.

 

[weemadarthur]

So Malus lied about his power (saying info would be shown if dead rather than NKd).


We probably kill Turmoil now, but if he is town (and that's a big if) I'd like to point out that every miskill we've done is partially because the player did a big dumb gambit/large misplay on their part.


Going to look into Malus now he's been confirmed, also why was VA killed? Has anyone brought that up, why him compared to me or wee? Worth looking into his reads imo.

Now, now. After telling Nin not to be down on ppl here you are being down on ppl.

 

[weemadarthur]

Did zeke win the netflix and actually say what it did, or did he make up that it stopped a person from moving rooms?

 

[weemadarthur]

It’s still hard to see Zeke as scum when he used the aspirin. This game is already overextended from not using all the deathtraps and mafia is having trouble down 3 strong members.

 

[weemadarthur]

I felt bad for TearablePuns, lunching him impromptu was dirty


rip

But.how.what.i.u.theres.huh?helphelpi’mbeing repressed

 

[weemadarthur]

I would like to apologize for sharing my thoughts as they happen. Nobody should be forced to sit through that.

 

[weemadarthur]

If i’m not dead, should I claim to have moved in the night?

 

[Kyanrute]

and to think you have to copypasta the same messages to the scum chat as well

such work, much dedication

 

[Kyanrute]

If i’m not dead, should I claim to have moved in the night?

How though? What made you move? I don't see anything credible.

 

[weemadarthur]

How though? What made you move? I don't see anything credible.

I dunno, ynnek isn’t paying attention anyway.
Obviously, like, I lied about my role and really I am um well. Something that moves. ??

 

[weemadarthur]

I'd rather scum win than cult to be honest

Is she just jealous or is she scum

 

[weemadarthur]

I really don’t like feps putting me as #2 top town given my totally unverifiable role, it seems like a pocket manurveruser. I will never learn to spell that.

Unless my scum hunting has been en pointe. Has it?

 

[weemadarthur]

If ynnek was town he’d probly be 3 shot like fanto?

 

[Kyanrute]

Why even that weak. Could be four. Or three. Would need to know all the roles to make an educated guess. Two would be curiously weak at 1st glance.

 

[weemadarthur]

and to think you have to copypasta the same messages to the scum chat as well

such work, much dedication

Oh no, not the SAME messages. Way different ones.

.....oopsie.....

 

[Kyanrute]

didn't bet feps btw

so if i rip in spicy sausage that wasn't the origin of it

 

[Verelios]

If ynnek was town he’d probly be 3 shot like fanto?

Oh yeah, he claimed X shot. Forgot that.

 

[Franconp]

This chat Is now closed.

 

[heymonkey]

Still legit shook about Monkey's death. I thought about it and really did expect her to self-protect. She was target number 1. But by her usual actions I'm guessing she made a chance on Fanto being the target and protected him instead.

Yep. I assumed they would choose between me and Fanto and I chose Fanto for the possibility of another track shot, but down I went.

 

[Aeleus]

Good to know we were all town, no hard feelings Vere/Kalor :D

 

[weemadarthur]

I lied about the one question because I just couldn’t trust y’all. Sorry.
But I was starting to pay attention to the lack of caring and move on to the right scums! Who was, not us!!

 

[Aeleus]

And it turns out that Vere's ability was targetable? And a counter to the poison VA got from the taco bell?

This is why we should have all been honest to each other!

 

[Fanto]

Vere both did not invite me to this chat, knowing full well that I love me a good night chat, and also refused to protect me when given the chance.

If anyone has doubts about how (un)healthy our relationship in this community is, that's all you need to know! :P

 

[weemadarthur]

Hmm well my unfocused lie did mislead zeke, so maybe I could have done something with it.
Probably not tho.

 

[Franconp]

Vere both did not invite me to this chat, knowing full well that I love me a good night chat, and also refused to protect me when given the chance.

If anyone has doubts about how (un)healthy our relationship in this community is, that's all you need to know! :P

Vere couldn't protect you. He could never cure, it was just an antidote for VA.

 

[Aeleus]

Vere couldn't protect you. He could never cure, it was just an antidote for VA.

 

[weemadarthur]

All of spec were trying to fuck me up! None of them answered seriously, only what they thought was funny, regardless of their original alignment!!

My poor useless role.

 

[Verelios]

Ya'll tried to mutiny your chat leader. Shameful.

 

[Chuggernaut]

All of spec were trying to fuck me up! None of them answered seriously, only what they thought was funny, regardless of their original alignment!!

My poor useless role.

This is not true! I voted what I meant

 

[heymonkey]

This is not true! I voted what I meant

me too!