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Franconp

Frank
Welcome to the spec chat.

Here we can laugh about all the crazy shenanigans that are going to happen.

Expect craziness.
 
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This will be so interesting to watch unfold from a design perspective. And so many great players in there! Still deciding on who to cheer for.

Correctly minmaxing the best stuff you can get away with sounds a bit hard though. To the point I'd consider an immediate "Approved" from you a downer since that means there could be a bit of extra room to be bolder.

Also thanks for that late, confusing like, loki. I guess.
 
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lokiduck

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This will be so interesting to watch unfold from a design perspective. And so many great players in there! Still deciding on who to cheer for.

Correctly minmaxing the best stuff you can get away with sounds a bit hard though. To the point I'd consider an immediate "Approved" from you a downer since that means there could be a bit of extra room to be bolder.

Also thanks for that late, confusing like, loki. I guess.
Can't wait to see who you are rooting for :D I'm just going to root for Vere because he's my gamemaking buddy :D

And ;D on the like.

I have to get my liking fix somewhere since I'll have to abstain while game watching (except in here of course ;D).

Honestly tempted to revoke my liking abilities >>;
 
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Franconp

Frank
This is my list of most creative roles (it is in a spoiler but there are no aligments or descriptions):

Flush
Vere
Geno
Muffin
Blarg

There are a lot more that are really good but those are the ones that I think were the most originals.
 
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lokiduck

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This is my list of most creative roles (it is in a spoiler but there are no aligments or descriptions):

Flush
Vere
Geno
Muffin
Blarg

There are a lot more that are really good but those are the ones that I think were the most originals.
I agree with this list and I'm excited to see these role in the actual game now. :D
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I don't know how much I'll be following along for sure, but I definitely wanted to be in here for this game lol.
 
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Won't touch that spoiler yet - want to be surprised by the flip - but settled for Natiko and Zipped this time. If we're getting a wild, unpredictable game, seasoned veterans honned by multiple LyLos accross years of madness seem like a solid choice to root for. Don't even care if they're of different alignments.

Go Zipptiko!
 
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If the HvV games were anything to go by, I can't even begin to imagine what kind of role Geno might have come up with.
 

lokiduck

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This game has already been off to a fun start. Lots of good jokes from people. Monkey had one of my favorites so far with that fake Essay title. XD

Also
Turmoil's comment had me in stitches because the scum team did in fact forget to write in the factional kill.
 
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lokiduck

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...They're all going to blow each other up, aren't they? Better get my popcorn on now, then.
Won't spoil anything, but with the powers we have in this game, you are going to need a big bucket because some of these roles are super exciting and will lead to a lot of fun stuff. I really can't wait for you guys to see how creative some people were and not just with killing powers I promise.

One player really went deep into the flavor they went with and it had me in stitches.
 
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lokiduck

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Soooooo for peeps in spec chat, what do you guys think of the game so far? Any faves? Any early town or scum reads?
Who are you most excited to the power of?
 
Things got serious pretty fast, but discussion is being headed by a handful of players. Quite a few are totally flying under the radar, Sawneeks even pointed out how she'd rather go for low-activity posters.

Faves are obviously Natipinhead. Whatever happens, they're always being the best players in the game. Also D6 is my bet for the end! Mark this post.

As of #455;

Early town reads; Dubs, Salva, turms.

Early mafia leans; Kyan, Stu. Want to hear more from Aeleus, Donna and Bear too.

Most excited to see; Blarg's role. Everyone talks about Geno's power but Blarg has this sarcastic charm and bizarre narrative that make for a potentially fantastic mess. The mod warning only hypes it up somehow. Honorable mention goes to malus. He's normally low-key but super thorough, so there could be space for an incredible surprise there.

Also Salva, Vere and Muffin sound like they could make the thematically fitting role you speak of, so looking forward to them too!
 
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Well, I can never read at all on D1, and I'm not breaking the habit of a lifetime now! (Unfortunately.) As for roles - I agree with Reki that Blarg could be one to watch. That merge command might have been a bluff, but it's just the sort of thing that I was hoping to see. I'd also offer bonus points to malus if he's come up with a role that integrates the use of graphs, or to Bear if he's come up with a role that passively strikes down other players with UNSTOPPABLE VENGEANCE if he's offed before D2 again.
 

lokiduck

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Good choices guys :D

I'm really enjoying the game so far and some players have been really fun for me so far. I'm really liking Monkey, Natiko, and of course my buddy Vere :D

Also totally minor as I won't name anyone, but don't click if you don't want hints about stuff:

So far one player has been completely correct in their reads, and I'm excited to see if anything comes of it. Also some P/I/K lists have had me laughing but i won't even hint why at this point. Some of the role speculation has been LOL too.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Soooooo for peeps in spec chat, what do you guys think of the game so far?
I haven't read a single post!
Any faves?
Monkey is my fave.
Any early town or scum reads
Again, I haven't read a single post, but knowing me, these are probably my thoughts:

I'm Town reading Monkey, but I really don't want to. I'm suspicious of her for reasons I won't be able to fully explain until I ISO her overnight, but I agree with everything she's said.

I'm Null on Blarg and Kyan.

I have an early Scum lean on Stu, but I wouldn't vote there.

I'd vote for B-Dubs.

Protect: Monkey
Investigate: Stu
Kill: B-Dubs
Who are you most excited to the power of?
Geno.
 

lokiduck

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I haven't read a single post!
Well then get reading :D

Monkey is my fave.
Excellent choice.

Again, I haven't read a single post, but knowing me, these are probably my thoughts:

I'm Town reading Monkey, but I really don't want to. I'm suspicious of her for reasons I won't be able to fully explain until I ISO her overnight, but I agree with everything she's said.

I'm Null on Blarg and Kyan.

I have an early Scum lean on Stu, but I wouldn't vote there.

I'd vote for B-Dubs.

Protect: Monkey
Investigate: Stu
Kill: B-Dubs
Also good choices. Can you explain your vote/kill on B-Dubs tho?

Also an excellent choice.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
RIP Sorian.

I had a feeling he was an investigator when he talked about how he had kept his role simple. I was thinking he would just rewrite his role from Conspiracy 1, 1 shot, super strong. But a Parity Cop is an interesting twist since you can clear multiple people by picking two people you think could not be partners.

I think the flaw in that role is there is going to be a lot of interference from other roles.

I always think Day 1 shots are town, even though shooting with no info is almost always a bad move. Stuart is claiming the shot. Seems like a waste to kill somoene with very little voting logic or even reads outside of Sorian being scary.

I was thinking Natiko was town but maybe I was wrong. The most convincing town post I have read is by Sawneeks but maybe I am just a sucker for a list that is just a little jumbled and inconsistent that says this person is solving but doesn't have all the info. Sawneeks had Nat as scummy for lack of solving and that might be true although he was pushy at the start which is townie for him but Nat is really good as scum.

Turmoil doesn't feel like scum. I think he could be a governor. That feels like a role Fireblend would pick. Powerful but not too complex.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Actually i didn't see that Stu was near the top of the votes.

The paranoia read from me is that Stu is scum and someone on their team had similar ideas about Sorian's role. (for fun let's assume it is monkey, someone who is always weary of Sorian)

Better for Stu to shoot early and claim. With town forgetting that there is no balance and scum could easily write themselves to have a day shot.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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Also yes, I went simple and I get a sneaking suspicion not as much was going to interfere with my picks as expected.
 
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Sorian

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Aw that joke won’t be as fun now, thought it would show on your post, sorry Fran
 
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Well that was certainly something. Were I playing, I'd have been suspicious of Stu trying a double-bluff here. "Whoops - bad choice! At least we know scum wouldn't try that, right! Oh, by the way, I'm BP." I don't know if I'd go all in on him being scum, but I wouldn't be ruling out the possibility of him being some kind of neutral.
 

Sorian

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I heavily telegraphed my N1 action so I still want to know the result, what would I have gotten from Stu and Donna
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Also wouldn't Sorian's power easily be fooled by a cleverly worded godfather-like role?

"for all intends and purposes, if alignment is relevant to a role's effect, they behave as if you are town"

I would like to think I would write a godfather like that, I have considered linked cops in the past and always had that issue
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Also wouldn't Sorian's power easily be fooled by a cleverly worded godfather-like role?

"for all intends and purposes, if alignment is relevant to a role's effect, they behave as if you are town"

I would like to think I would write a godfather like that, I have considered linked cops in the past and always had that issue
Not even cleverly worded. A godfather's power is to show town on cop reports.

Yeah if Stuart is multi-power scum. He could be 1 shot BP, 1 day kill and Godfather.

Stuart claiming the day restriction on the kill was strange. It seemed true. But why would anyone care when a town vig shoots? More likely a mod cares when scum shoots since a hidden shot late game can lead to an unexpected loss for town.
 
Just got around to catching up, that's a lot to digest. Liked your role Sorian, someone said it was overhyped but as Faddy pointed out it could be really useful depending on the targets.

What was your reasoning when making that role, turmoil? If I'm reading it correctly it's basically a Bus Driver, right?

By the way, is it weird that I'm following Kyan this time? Like, I recall the common meta of him being hard to read sometimes, but he seems straightforward this time. Dunno.
 
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turmoil7

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Not even cleverly worded. A godfather's power is to show town on cop reports.

Yeah if Stuart is multi-power scum. He could be 1 shot BP, 1 day kill and Godfather.

Stuart claiming the day restriction on the kill was strange. It seemed true. But why would anyone care when a town vig shoots? More likely a mod cares when scum shoots since a hidden shot late game can lead to an unexpected loss for town.
Yeah but Sorian talked like if he was godfather-proof during the game so I though maybe that was the intention

Just got around to catching up that's a lot to digest. Liked your role Sorian, someone said it was overhyped but as Faddy pointed out it could be really useful depending on the targets.

What was your reasoning when making that role, turmoil? If I'm reading it right it's basically a Bus Driver, right?

By the way, is it weird that I'm following Kyan this time? Like, I recall the common meta of him being hard to read sometimes, but he seems really straightforward this time. Dunno.
I always wanted to roll switcher, in my first game town's last hope was a switcher redirecting the kill target to a mafia player, I wanted to do that

But I am well aware it can do more damage than good, so I put restrictions to make it stronger

 
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Well that was certainly a mess of a day end. Will be interesting to see what chaos happens in the night. XD

Any speculation on who might get NK'd?

I'm laughing because a certain player may have hyped up their powers too much and now may get NK'd before they get to do anything with it. Scum was considering Sorian, but then he got shot so...
 
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Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
In no way did I think I was godfather proof, I just was planning to work around it.
 

Franconp

Frank
Lol ITA's are allowed? I thought this would go into not allowed territorry
I allowed a lot of things lol. I was even going to allow map roles if the player made the map but I was worried that two players decided to go for it.

I'm going to tell you a secret:

More than 1 player had the same idea so it's likely that we will have another ITA phase another day.
 
Fran technically Muffin still goes to chat of the dead instead of spec chat to be stuck there eternally to be joined by Sneeks right? Please tell me he's banished
 
I like that role of yours, Geno - shame it's not going to get a chance to play out, but it's a good concept.
 

lokiduck

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Lol ITA's are allowed? I thought this would go into not allowed territorry
The Two ITA's is part of why I was assuming this game was going to move fast LOL. Sorry you didn't get to use your power more Geno :< It was a neat one.
Another funny thing:

Monkey and Natiko will likely share not one, but 2 chats tonight.
Oh so [Redacted] picked Nat and Monkey last night? We might as well call this game, multiple chats the game considering. We should give a prize to whoever had to read the most threads at the end of the game LOL
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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The world will never learn. I don’t care if Blarg is the Uber scum that baked in 37 powers into his role. He’s not a conversation piece day 2, end of story.
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
blarg power being about having someone voting for them at day end wasn't bullshit? During the night phase I kinda regretted moving my vote out of him
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
Dunno, I think it's fun

Problem is that the ITAs fucked the normal pace of the game

Stu would had been a wagon this phase had not been for that
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
My thought is Natiko is scum based on picking killing role over cop.
The fact he gets two guaranteed kills
His indecisiveness on who to shoot. If you are town using that power N1 you already have a target in mind.​
 

lokiduck

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LOL at all the shots missing, except for the 100% ones. Also LOL at Nat shooting Malus' vest. At least town got Kalor even though that means this game may last longer than expected.

Good shot Monkey :D

One thing I'm laughing about tho is that certain players are really role fishing, but no one is actually calling them out on it.
 

Kalor

Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
That was both a fun and frustrating game. Wish I got to stick around longer but I wasn't expecting to meet my condition even if I did live longer.

I was genuine with everything I posted near the end or even during the whole game, which I understand why people in the thread are dismissing it now but still a bummer. Even my desire for people to vote is something I feel I always do, even if people don't notice it. I do think this game was my breaking point just in terms of meta. Being scumread from the same people and it never changing from game to game is just incredibly frustrating at this point. Then it happened with other people like Sorians death being entirely due to meta and nothing to do with the game. I don't know. I definitely had a moment on day 1 where I felt like I was done with the community because it's basically every game where people try to throw meta reads onto me that I know are inaccurate.

It is great to see the bomb work at least. I thought that was going to be a bad choice but the ITAs and people holding back their votes meant today would have been tough anyway.

Also at least like three people saying I shot Stu when I clearly shot Zipped. And I'm the one who was apparently not reading the thread.
 

Kalor

Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
I have no regrets.

Apart from not giving myself more day-vig shots and less investigation.

lol.

Also Hi everybody.

Well fucking played Kalor
I was cutting it close with Salvas sole vote. I added the death condition on 0 votes deliberately hoping it would force me into more difficult decisions which worked out. I was sweating it at one point that I might die to the bomb.
 

turmoil7

more than six maelstroms
sucks you felt like that Kalor :(

This game you were a prime victim of "bitch eating crackers", but that happens to everyone every so many games, I think.

I liked your role, but yes, it would had been hard to win
 
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turmoil7

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Also, did your pre-role said you were neutral or your Nen affinity allowed you to become neutral if you chose?
 
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turmoil7

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why would ITAs be unlikely scum?

vigilantes aren't foolproof and scum gets to shot too, most shots this phase were on confirmed not-scum

in fact, given that to get this power Natiko and Monkey must have similar Nen I suspect one of them is scum

And I lean on scum Nat there
 
So, I was right to put Stu and neutral in the same train of thought... except instead of 'could be a', I should have put 'has been stitched up by a'. Ah, well. More nice roles flipping, though, which is good to see.