Deathless night. Kills Gorlak on the deathless night. The terminology might need some work but moving on:
1) Have you suspected Gorlak before in a post that could be called understandable to the common reader?
2) Why did you fight back on D2 but not on D4? (countless very easy answers to this exist)
3) Why did you not shoot Muffin or in the larger scale, what was the exact reasoning behind the Gorlak shot over others?
Regarding before: yeah sticky only works the first half of the day and without ITA, meh. Who else would you target?
I don't think Aeleus could day time protect every day
Safe option: Bomb Donna, Kill Zipped?
Riskier: Bomb Flush, Kill Donna.
This wouldn't be too bad I thinkI prefer the boring option of killing Zipped and bombing Donna.
If Monkey opts to ITA, I shoot my shot and BOOM :D in the same post on the 1st minute.
If we kill Zipped that removes one scumread player we could've scapegoated though.
And the TOWNCORE is still there.
If y'all wanna go MEDIUM RISK I wouldn't say no to; BOMB: Flush and KILL: Donna
Day 5 (DONNA BOMBED SUCCESSFULLY):
Royal_Flush
Muffin (STICKY)
Verelios
Natiko
Blargonaut (SELF-SHIELDING/VOTING, CANNOT VOTE AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE)
Gorlak
10 players left.
6 Town.
4 Mafia.
Hell yeah! BLOOD CANYON!
And really, the one gambit I am fully fine with is Blarg rolling 3*10% to dodge the ITA shots without protection.
A red check on you is only interesting if there is ITA, and in that case you blow up anyway. Of course having you around for another day is A+. I don't think people can be swayed away from Blarg tomorrow. And I think Zipped is more inclined to investigate me.Zipped can check Muffin or me for one. Sure I'll blow up at some point, but I think we can't conclude for certain that the day would be tomorrow no matter what.
Nah, I'm with Blarg here.And really, the one gambit I am fully fine with is Blarg rolling 3*10% to dodge the ITA shots without protection.
Let's say Dr. Monkey dies from Kyan's "BOOM :D" this Day 5...Can anyone explain how Natiko isn't ultimately lunched when both Zipped and Monkey are dead? We are eliminating his cover which he would need in case we miss at some point. That's the only doubt I still have in our plans. Please soothe my worries. Will it be too late for town at that point anyway?
oh shit, yeah. Forgot, 100% could be a bluff...Didn't Natiko say that all of Monkey's shots, even her own, have a 10% hit chance? 72,9% chance to dodge three shots, ez. But I am not the one getting shot at there so you do you.
Can anyone explain how Natiko isn't ultimately lunched when both Zipped and Monkey are dead? We are eliminating his cover which he would need in case we miss at some point. That's the only doubt I still have in our plans. Please soothe my worries. Will it be too late for town at that point anyway?
I just thought of a better claim for myself, how's this:
"Neutral Friend"
- Neutral-aligned Dayproof Survivor.
- I can't be killed during the Day by anything, even bad lunch.
- I can only be killed at Night.
- My Win-condition is to survive until either faction wins.
If there's no ITA phase Tomorrow; that votebomb would still be on me, right?
So no matter what won't I be starting the Day with a self-vote|Shield anyway? ITA phase or not?
Here's the basic version of it: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=SurvivorI suck with balance, but is that too town-aligned for a neutral that is supposed to be able to pick sides? The usual disclaimers about claiming a neutral apply here as well.
ohhh okay. TYThe presence of the vote bomb will be apparent by the time Flush's steal is made public. That will happen some time between action lock and day start. If he steals turmoil, the bomb can't be there.
Well we don’t HAVE to end the game tomorrow so even if you get voted out there’s still future hope.extrapolating Scenario "KILL: Zipped, BOMB: Donna":
Day 5 start:
Royal_Flush
Dr. Monkey (Kyaa~bombed N2)
Aeleus (Kyaa~bombed N3)
empressdonna (IN PROGRESS: Kyaa~bombing N4)
Muffin (STICKY)
Verelios
Natiko
Blargonaut
Kyanrute
Gorlak
10 players left.
6 Town.
4 Mafia.
and if Dr. Monkey triggered her ITA (so I would self-vote|Shield first, THEN Kyan takes his ITA-potshot + triggers BOOM :D)...
Day 5 (DONNA BOMBED SUCCESSFULLY):
Royal_Flush
Muffin (STICKY)
Verelios
Natiko
Blargonaut (SELF-SHIELDING/VOTING, CANNOT VOTE AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE)
Gorlak
10 players left.
6 Town.
4 Mafia.
3 Town votes vs. 2 Mafia votes.
Blarg is self-voting.
While I'm self-voting; Royal_Flush, Verelios & Muffin would all have to vote against me together (6 players, so majority is 4, right?) to eliminate me instantly Tomorrow.
But, if instead; either Royal_Flush or Verelios votes against Muffin... that's 1/4 votes needed. Natiko and Gorlak can vote against Muffin straight after, but that's 3/4; I can't help out with my own scum!vote because I'm STUCK self-voting.
So we'd need BOTH Royal_Flush and Verelios to vote against Muffin so you scum!2 can go for the hammer-kill.
This is the path of "KILL: Zipped, BOMB: Donna".
So... do you think you, Natiko & Gorlak, can convince BOTH Royal_Flush and Verelios to vote against Muffin Tomorrow??
I love it, but also I realize now that if we NK Gor Town will 100% just think it was due to Muffin so RIP that plan.
Hell yeah! BLOOD CANYON!
She claims she doesn’t get one but who knows.Also doesn't Dr. Monkey gain a 100%-shot? What if she shoots me
Oh I’ll be under heavy scrutiny the moment Zipped flips, more so if Monkey goes boom. The hope is that I can keep it at bay long enough to end the game. Blarg might still be under more suspicion than me at that point. If needed to force the issue the next day Gor we can have you do a fake slip to get voted out maybe.Can anyone explain how Natiko isn't ultimately lunched when both Zipped and Monkey are dead? We are eliminating his cover which he would need in case we miss at some point. That's the only doubt I still have in our plans. Please soothe my worries. Will it be too late for town at that point anyway?
(NO) MORE BRAIN POSTS
EVERYBODY SUBMIT YOUR LATEST DRAFT FOR TONIGHT PLS
TEMPLATE HERE:
Natiko-> KILL: ???
Gorlak-> GUNGI: ???
Blargonaut-> STICKY: ???
Kyanrute-> BOMB: ???
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well if you want to ;)can i just boom so i can skip mass claim plsplspls
But holding out for another day if possible would be pretty cool, do you believe Donna or Vere might shoot you (if they end up having a big shot not ITA)
So just to be clear, if I get your Bomb I get a mod-PM at Day-start, right?So I hold boom if Kalor gets stolen and ITA isn't there? This where we at?
And if I boom, I'll give Gorlak and Blarg a single minute to post to say if they got the bomb redirected to them.
So just to be clear, if I get your Bomb I get a mod-PM at Day-start, right?
I think the idea is sticky on Muffin maybe dissuades votes there, and if you end up having to self vote it’s the same as if you had never used sticky?STICKYing myself is not compatible with self-vote|Shield
As soon as I do the self-vote|Shield, if I was STICKY the STICKY gets removed
- AT DAY START: If ITA is up Kyaa go boom after Blarg self votes? DEBATABLE MUST DECIDE
but slower clear time results in a lower style scoreWell we don’t HAVE to end the game tomorrow so even if you get voted out there’s still future hope.
When I die, someone will connect the dots and understand that I got Muffin'd N1. You can argue against him being cleared by that with something like:
- scum did not know their mate's roles before the game so Muffin could very well be scum
- just because I got Muffin'd it does not mean that he can't be scum, he can't control his role after all
- in fact maybe that is the reason he wants to die so much - he fucked up one bomb delivery so the scum team saw that he had to be gotten rid of sooner than later
I didn't go that far, because role sounds scummy as hell and there isn't anyone I can get in on this. Would be empty words... Maybe a real bad claim gets me up the priority list, so we can ensure the extra kill?Who would confirm the third one?
I feel like there’s other ways to manage that without risking you being the very next voted out lolI didn't go that far, because role sounds scummy as hell and there isn't anyone I can get in on this. Would be empty words... Maybe a real bad claim gets me up the priority list, so we can ensure the extra kill?
No way that works when Stu shared a green oneI could go with a red check on Verelios. "yeah, I know. lunch me and go for Vere after you've confirmed my check."
Just in case people are steering hard towards you.I feel like there’s other ways to manage that without risking you being the very next voted out lol
Could be, if so oh well. B-Dubs wasn’t shot limited so it was reasonable to not expect Flush to be either - his limitation being he can’t store multiple.DAMN IT Flush is 3-shot of course people. Fran probably narfed that, there never was the risk of a switch.
lolyeah well, we didn't do BLOOD CANYON, so we'll just have to live with the Gore Lack
Yeah, maybe difference in town/scum role as always or he held back his last of 4 shots? Risky? Nah. And still Donna or the vote on Vere could've protected Flush anyway. We'll be fine.Could be, if so oh well. B-Dubs wasn’t shot limited so it was reasonable to not expect Flush to be either - his limitation being he can’t store multiple.
We only look for ITA, there should be no bombs gone awry.How does this change our opening chess move(s)