Scum Thread The Spine of the World

Going to be a nice gamerunner and ask your thoughts, is this a fair day end message " Town, mafia, neutral and totally in the game cult, I want you all to know that the game isn't over yet. Play with everything you've got until the last vote is cast." or would you not like the uplifting nature of it?
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Going to be a nice gamerunner and ask your thoughts, is this a fair day end message " Town, mafia, neutral and totally in the game cult, I want you all to know that the game isn't over yet. Play with everything you've got until the last vote is cast." or would you not like the uplifting nature of it?
Oh, I think that’s fine. Give them hope.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I’ll be checking in sporadically today, but I think Stu should be the kill still because we can pin this on Blarg, including Stu dying right after Blarg joined the chat (if he did indeed invite Blarg). But I would like to hear thoughts on Uzzy to sell the Geno claim.
 

Hawthorn

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OK, I trust your judgment, and you have a good read on the situation since you're in the chat with the town dignitaries :-D My only concern re Stu would be that both Blarg's green checks would be cleared posthumously, but I think that the nin situation is still dire enough that he'll be in hot water, especially if he does come in to the chat.

I don't love the Uzzy idea, mostly because even after Geno green checked her it didn't seem like she was widely trusted. I think that if she showed up dead the assumption might be that mafia killed her to bolster Geno, which would in fact be the case.
 

Hawthorn

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I'm a little worried that Stan might not be able to check in with us during the short night.
 

Hawthorn

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LOL, hi! Anyway, do you want to investigate someone? I guess there aren't that many town left who don't have known roles/powers.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Ok I’m here for a few minutes, I don’t see a reply in the gossip so I don’t know if Blarg is in or not.

i agree with your point Hawthorn. That’s actually a great point. Stu still makes sense.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Next question is do we want to use any of Hawthorn’s abilities tonight on Stu and have her roleclaim at day start?
 

Stantastic

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Killing Stu tonight sounds good to me, the chat complication is a big plus, and he has the unsettling track record of solving games out of nowhere.
The concern about this clearing blargs check is something, but i dont think it would really make all that much difference since i doubt anyones really going to have a strong scum suspicion on Stu if we leave him alive.
LOL, hi! Anyway, do you want to investigate someone? I guess there aren't that many town left who don't have known roles/powers.
yeah there arnt all that many options left, for some reason my gut is saying Uzzy?
just because shes the biggest unknown left to me i guess.
 

Hawthorn

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I'm open to it! Might be a lot going on what with the Blarg/Geno cop battle also, but it could be a dramatic moment for it, and I can't coast forever. My reading of my powers is that if I use purge on Stu the kill will be delayed until the end of the next day phase, meaning that his next chat invite would go out, but presumably the chat would die with him? Honestly my gut says to just do a normal kill tonight, but maybe that's just stage fright XD

There are five mafia and eight town players left-- we know the roles of three of the remaining town players, and I think that jman truly is vanilla. That leaves only four unknowns: Uzzy, Kopite, Salva, and Sparks.

Uzzy sounds fine to me, Stan, I have no idea between the four I mentioned so good with any of them
 

Stantastic

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..wait, other idea that im surprised i didnt think of earlier, should i investigate Geno?
it might help to know exactly what his role is.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Blarg was not invited but based on Hawthorn’s reasoning, it’s still the right move. I threw a theory to nail Blarg with out in gossip.
..wait, other idea that im surprised i didnt think of earlier, should i investigate Geno?
it might help to know exactly what his role is.
Do it
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I'm open to it! Might be a lot going on what with the Blarg/Geno cop battle also, but it could be a dramatic moment for it, and I can't coast forever. My reading of my powers is that if I use purge on Stu the kill will be delayed until the end of the next day phase, meaning that his next chat invite would go out, but presumably the chat would die with him? Honestly my gut says to just do a normal kill tonight, but maybe that's just stage fright XD

There are five mafia and eight town players left-- we know the roles of three of the remaining town players, and I think that jman truly is vanilla. That leaves only four unknowns: Uzzy, Kopite, Salva, and Sparks.

Uzzy sounds fine to me, Stan, I have no idea between the four I mentioned so good with any of them
The chat would die with him, so it’s all good. I say go for it. We’re in a good enough spot that we can afford to take that relatively small risk.
 
Wow, did not think town would turbo after the last turbo result. Gonna be slightly disappointed if we win because of one player's hubris, lol.

I agree that we should still kill Stu. Don't want him influencing town today and I don't want people talking in town chat about what they want to do.
 
Next question is do we want to use any of Hawthorn’s abilities tonight on Stu and have her roleclaim at day start?
I don't see why we would risk it and distract town. If Stu is dead, most people left are probably gonna want to hammer Blarg. Claiming out of nowhere for Hawthorn is just gonna distract town from the overall goal here which is to get Blarg lynched.

Once Stu is dead, the only town leader left is gonna be Terra. The other players will want to go after Blarg, we just need to nudge them that way and not do much else.
 

Hawthorn

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I have to say I tentatively agree with Maolfunction-- I think getting Stu out of the way before morning is the best plan, to keep the narrative streamlined-- but I'm open to discussing it more.
 
I think we keep it simple. We're at the point too that there might be too many town claims out there. Adding another one and people might start seriously questioning the balance, and if Hawthorn just claims, even after a no kill night, people might suspect scum might be trying to do something.

Keeping Hawthorn's power til we need them, if things go horribly wrong, seems likes a better idea to me.
 

Hawthorn

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I agree, even though it's a bit frustrating that I might actually end the game without ever actually using my powers XD. I guess I did use the help power on night one. Do you want to do the kill?

Break a leg in the chat, Launchpad, sorry you don't get much of a break
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I’m spinning more yarn about Blarg being untrustworthy. We’ll see how Terra runs with it. He hasn’t checked in yet.
 
I'll just claim vanilla. Having more than 6 or 7 town PR claims out invites trouble because that's on the verge of being completely unbalanced.
 

Hawthorn

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With Stu gone there will be 3 prs among the dead, plus terraforce & the two cop claims makes 6, though I think everyone will assume one cop, hopefully Blarg, is lying, so that makes 5 prs.

I still like Launch’s claim idea for me, but don’t like making it w/o proof. Would rather claim vanilla now then later say I was lying to protect town if we do the delayed kill + claim
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I’ve asked them to cover for me
With Stu gone there will be 3 prs among the dead, plus terraforce & the two cop claims makes 6, though I think everyone will assume one cop, hopefully Blarg, is lying, so that makes 5 prs.

I still like Launch’s claim idea for me, but don’t like making it w/o proof. Would rather claim vanilla now then later say I was lying to protect town if we do the delayed kill + claim
thats solid

Let gossip know I wasn’t going to claim and if they could vouch for me.
 
I will say, it does tell us with certainty he doesn't have a modifier attached to his role like me and Stan, so we can definitely conclude that Blarg decided to red check nin all on his own.
 

Hawthorn

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He must have some power though, unless the idea is just to increase our majority numbers? But it seems like kind of a thankless role if that's the case, since he isn't part of our nightly kill deliberations. Would the power always be said in the role name?
 
He could be just a goon. We have a bit of a numbers advantage, with 19 players it wouldn't be too unusual for there to only be 4 mafians, but I suspect since me and Stan are tied to each other, a fifth was added, but as a lone wolf so things were kept balanced.
 

Stantastic

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LaunchpadMcQ

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You gotta wonder what Blarg’s endgame is here. Instead of coming clean like Jman, which would’ve probably worked with this town, he doubles down on his lie? Fuck sake, this is hard to watch even from the opposing team.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Stan, I love your monologue. You’re just short of yelling at them you’re scum. Embarrassingly, they’re not going to catch on in time.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I also just feel really bad for Aeleus, putting together these cool roles and us having no reason or circumstance to use them.
 

Hawthorn

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Yeah I know what you mean, we haven't really used our roles much. Maybe we sort of got this close to winning through our wits alone? I do wish I'd gotten to do the delayed death/claim plan, as it is it looks like I'll be able to continue coasting right through the end of the game possibly.

The interesting thing is that if they killed any one of us right now, things could turn around pretty quickly-- one of Maol/Stan would kill both of them, my death would give them the information about the Lone Wolf role, and Launchpad's being dethroned from seen as town would make them reevaluate a lot of their previous reasoning. But I don't think they'll get there.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Yeah I know what you mean, we haven't really used our roles much. Maybe we sort of got this close to winning through our wits alone? I do wish I'd gotten to do the delayed death/claim plan, as it is it looks like I'll be able to continue coasting right through the end of the game possibly.

The interesting thing is that if they killed any one of us right now, things could turn around pretty quickly-- one of Maol/Stan would kill both of them, my death would give them the information about the Lone Wolf role, and Launchpad's being dethroned from seen as town would make them reevaluate a lot of their previous reasoning. But I don't think they'll get there.
Their next runner up is Salva or Kopite. They are most certainly not getting there today. Best we end it as soon as we can at this point.
 

Hawthorn

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Yeah, I just went in and voted even though I said in the thread before that we shouldn't turbo. I think it'll end today (actual calendar today)
 
If this ends the game, just want to say you all played great. Really enjoyed playing scum with you all, and wouldn't mind doing it again sometime.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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Fuck, you know, Blarg could’ve had me dead to rights right there lol we didn’t figure out the discreet part, but trying to coerce him to talk about it could have been interpreted like I knew exactly his role and that he couldn’t tell us the truth.

Just a couple of thoughts. I don’t know how MyLo situations usually play out, but my initial reaction to the game not having ended yet is we can still fuck this up somehow. I wouldn’t rest on our laurels just yet.

That said, I think Sparks is my first choice, but I might be in a bit of a catch-22 with Terra. If he suspected me even a little, he could turn around and say “hey, your role claim is pretty convenient considering I haven’t died yet and you don’t have to prove it.” At the same time, he can’t vouch for me if he’s dead. Not saying the first scenario is going to happen, but it’s a possibility. Terra wouldn’t hold back in airing me out either because he’d think we’re in LYLO/MyLo.
 

Hedin

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I think he would’ve used it on Terra N1. He must’ve given it to someone else N2.

I did in fact use it for Terra on N2, figured if you all wanted to go after him you wouldn't do it on N1 when he might have protections or watchers.

On N1 I ended up using it on jman in protest (we had a bodyguard and doc in Nier so I thought it could be possible), if I hadn't I was going to keep it for myself or actually use it on you. You had us all fooled that game Launch.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

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I did in fact use it for Terra on N2, figured if you all wanted to go after him you wouldn't do it on N1 when he might have protections or watchers.

On N1 I ended up using it on jman in protest (we had a bodyguard and doc in Nier so I thought it could be possible), if I hadn't I was going to keep it for myself or actually use it on you. You had us all fooled that game Launch.
Ah well, I’d have screwed that up if it came down to it lol
 
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