Spectator Thread Wait, who is the Tanner? Whoa...
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Faddy
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13 players probably means Coolspot's claim, like all day 0 claims, is complete nonsense. I actually think this is a scum move. The meta from the last couple of games where this happened is that a townie did it. I think Coolest might be trying to swerve on that strategy.
Weemad is putting in a lot of "effort" when there is so little to work with. They are on my radar.
Weemad is putting in a lot of "effort" when there is so little to work with. They are on my radar.
rac
whatever
yeah i can see that
salva claimed to have an egg d1(they actually had one) and lasted the whole game
i can see coolest using this claim to last late game as scum
but if no one receives a message or receives one and doesn't say anything it puts him in pretty big risk
probably safer to just lynch them right now
unless he is a weird neutral role
salva claimed to have an egg d1(they actually had one) and lasted the whole game
i can see coolest using this claim to last late game as scum
but if no one receives a message or receives one and doesn't say anything it puts him in pretty big risk
probably safer to just lynch them right now
unless he is a weird neutral role
I actually thought of this just now. He's a smart player - he'd do something like this. I wish I had seen his flip, but I can't blame them for voting an inactive townie out on D1.
Faddy
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I think it sort of helps. You see the moves and there is a decent chance scum is spooked that they have a chance of being lynched.
Like Fandorin is out there if CoolestSpot is scum. I also find CS giving up with 10 minutes to go to be overly dramatic.
He did lean on that a bit during Berserk as well, haha.
Faddy
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Spot does seem to be attempting to pocket Fandorin.
The other notable thing for me is Turmoil who almost comes across as bragging about his kill in his opening post. And then the quick set up on Geno. Although it is perhaps more work than scum should be doing. And now he is pro-Fandorin as well.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I'd be interested to see if anyone else gets on board with Ynnek's idea of Castamere being the supposed third party. Nicole seems to be the only one so far, although she did 'follow along' quite a bit on the first day. I see it as a bit of a 'thinking aloud' idea on Ynnek's part rather than a serious suggestion, so I wonder if there'll be any effort to push the notion?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Not now that CoolestSpot has said his play was a gambit.
And giving up on his gambit so early is more narrative that CS is scum. He would rather survive than hold his gambit.
Yeah. And even if he was town, his gambit was apparently fruitless. They should just lynch him to clear the air today.
cabot
Why.
Bloody self hammers.
My alarms were going off when I saw CSpot saying he wanted to control the game. I was actually reading him as neutral after that.
Personally I think the people pushing Geno are more suspicious. Scum would know CSpot was Town and could avoid taking heat for his lynch, and he was a player that muddied the waters, which is sweet sweet goodness for scum.
Geno's trying to solve, which is scum bad sauce.
My alarms were going off when I saw CSpot saying he wanted to control the game. I was actually reading him as neutral after that.
Personally I think the people pushing Geno are more suspicious. Scum would know CSpot was Town and could avoid taking heat for his lynch, and he was a player that muddied the waters, which is sweet sweet goodness for scum.
Geno's trying to solve, which is scum bad sauce.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Not really surprised to see Spot hammer himself given that he said he always had a sacrifice play in mind - I just hope it works out as he planned. I can't help feel that something's a little 'off' with weemad's accusation of Geno being too 'self-focused' - although that's probably because that's the same suggestion that was made against me in Cluedo! I personally wouldn't rule Geno out as scum straight away, but I'd exercise extreme caution with that - he does seem like too easy a target at the moment for my liking.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Please don't self-vote as town -.-
I understand the good intention of the gambit, but unlike Terra's Berzerk gambit it only leads to mechanic/role speculation, which is an absolute gold mine for scum to blend in with.
Agree with Cabot/swamped, Nicole's argument boiled down to "if you mislynch CSpot first then you might not mislynch Geno!".
That implies Geno is town, we're boned.
I understand the good intention of the gambit, but unlike Terra's Berzerk gambit it only leads to mechanic/role speculation, which is an absolute gold mine for scum to blend in with.
Agree with Cabot/swamped, Nicole's argument boiled down to "if you mislynch CSpot first then you might not mislynch Geno!".
That implies Geno is town, we're boned.
I like the cut of Nicole's jib. If she's scum and this is orchestrated, amazing. If not, it's still a nice move.
She's misguided in a lot of places, though. Her reasoning against Geno is so weak. Even if he ends up flipping scum, him going after CSpot the way he did is not at all indicative of his allegiance. Scum theoretically would love to keep CSpot alive and on the spotlight.
She's misguided in a lot of places, though. Her reasoning against Geno is so weak. Even if he ends up flipping scum, him going after CSpot the way he did is not at all indicative of his allegiance. Scum theoretically would love to keep CSpot alive and on the spotlight.
Yeah, my l33t mod skills tell me she edited that big post twice.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Gutsy move from Nicole, there. When I tried that in Cluedo - a pre-typed post with an immediate vote, a claim and naming the scum team - it was out of 'make a move or get mislynched and we lose' mentality, so I'm curious as to her motivations here. I'm not actually sure what she's trying to gain in doing so, actually - surely taking a slow approach and re-confirming her suspicions from yesterday would have been just as credible. All I know is that if she's town and there are two kills on N3, good luck getting out of that one...
Swamped
Dazzling Mafia Queen
Aw man, i really want to know! But don't tell me... Yet.
cabot
Why.
Don't believe Nicole right now.
- Why would scum target her? She was middle of the pack and fairly suspicious
- Assuming all scum dive into a town lynch wagon is foolish.
- As has been said, scum would have no reason to push for CSpot's lynch. That kind of player is beneficial to scum. Town have plenty reason to though.
- I think one of her scum reads is probably a team mate, leaning on fandorin
- I think weemad is possible also, their interactions with each other have been odd.
- She set up a lynch chain after CSpot, which is never good.
- Why would scum target her? She was middle of the pack and fairly suspicious
- Assuming all scum dive into a town lynch wagon is foolish.
- As has been said, scum would have no reason to push for CSpot's lynch. That kind of player is beneficial to scum. Town have plenty reason to though.
- I think one of her scum reads is probably a team mate, leaning on fandorin
- I think weemad is possible also, their interactions with each other have been odd.
- She set up a lynch chain after CSpot, which is never good.
Sawneeks
little green dog
110% that will happen.
Febe is playing a lot like he does when Town so I think he's good there, also wouldn't be surprised if most of this circular talk is all Town too. Scum might just be sitting this out and occasionally poking the conversation back at Geno if he's actually Town.
Here's Fan's post: https://www.resetera.com/posts/2050427/
Hmmm... I think Nicole would know if she was hit during the Night phase. I was BP in Berserk and I would've gotten a notification.
If she's lying... They're in MyLo? Because there's no way she doesn't get lynched in case two people die tomorrow. Seems like such a weird gambit.
And if Geno's town, he's awful at defense. Bringing up roleblocker and ninja? Come on...
If she's lying... They're in MyLo? Because there's no way she doesn't get lynched in case two people die tomorrow. Seems like such a weird gambit.
And if Geno's town, he's awful at defense. Bringing up roleblocker and ninja? Come on...
cabot
Why.
he really shouldn't need to defend himself. Killing a claimed tracker in this game which has shown to have a very limited cop is very bad.
Why is scum!Time bussing Geno right now?
Scum!Time eager to waste Town!Geno when there's likely Doctor still roaming at night makes a hell of a lot more sense.
Why is scum!Time bussing Geno right now?
Scum!Time eager to waste Town!Geno when there's likely Doctor still roaming at night makes a hell of a lot more sense.
cabot
Why.
mentioning it is nice, but yeah that needs more push.
cabot
Why.
Time really is messing with my guesstimate scum team though,
If scum, it makes sense to push a Geno lynch.
If town, he doesn't seem to be making a real effort to think through scenarios.
Time is usually a solid player (if low-activity), he's made some frankly bizarre errors in this game that make me lean scum than silly Town
If scum, it makes sense to push a Geno lynch.
If town, he doesn't seem to be making a real effort to think through scenarios.
Time is usually a solid player (if low-activity), he's made some frankly bizarre errors in this game that make me lean scum than silly Town
cabot
Why.
What is a crucial point which no one seems to have really considered is that there are likely 3 scum around, so maybe let the tracker claim have a night phase to deliver goods, and maybe try and figure out the remaining 2 in this day phase.
Even if Geno is kept alive, he either gives a result or confirms a scum blocker. That's valuable information.
Even if Geno is kept alive, he either gives a result or confirms a scum blocker. That's valuable information.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Glad I wasn't the only one lol.
Yeah, seems somewhat shortsighted. She could simply be trying to throw Geno to the wolves to save face.
Sup homies.
So I played bad. Real bad. But honestly I have other plans so hopefully this pays off at some point.
Great game can't wait for chose!
So I played bad. Real bad. But honestly I have other plans so hopefully this pays off at some point.
Great game can't wait for chose!
Faddy
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10 minutes and no posts.
Geno's flip did surprise me. I wonder if the self vote was an admission he was past saving with team mates already on his train and trying to throw shade on townies who hadn't voted. And a scum player voting themselves probably means there was already a bus in play since. Or I could be well off the mark.
Fandorin is a good kill I think, easiest town read I think.
Nicole will probably get pressure today.
Geno's flip did surprise me. I wonder if the self vote was an admission he was past saving with team mates already on his train and trying to throw shade on townies who hadn't voted. And a scum player voting themselves probably means there was already a bus in play since. Or I could be well off the mark.
Fandorin is a good kill I think, easiest town read I think.
Nicole will probably get pressure today.
You think so? I was getting scum read by a lot of players there, like turmoil and Nicole. They even commented on that now.
Mafia thought I had a power role lol So glad I didn't claim.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I was 100% you were town when CoolestSpot flipped. Day 1 end, it tied you two together pretty heavily and with it being your first game it seemed unlikely you would make such a risky move as mafia.
Yeah, makes sense. Most were ignoring that though. Nicole might still be scum sacrificing Geno so her scum read on me could be false.
In fact, now that Geno confessed that there was no scum tracker it's clear mafia were just going all in on D3, so I don't think it would be that weird for Nicole to do that.
In fact, now that Geno confessed that there was no scum tracker it's clear mafia were just going all in on D3, so I don't think it would be that weird for Nicole to do that.
