I agree. That's why I'm pretty sure it's not a power but I was just replying to say it was not impossible, just improbable.
Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This
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I agree. That's why I'm pretty sure it's not a power but I was just replying to say it was not impossible, just improbable.
Nope. Gladiator is the term most communities use from my experience.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gladiator
At that point Melon was more vocal and all around seemed more townie than Splinter. Plus I liked her calling out Terra on his weird logic.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
How do you feel about your reads on players then? Do you generally not trust your own opinions?
Sure, and I think we definitely got some..interesting responses during the event. I was mainly just explaining what influenced me to opt for the no lynch since Saw asked.
I'm still new enough to not know the term at all lol.
Ynnek7
OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
The more I think about it, the more I'm doubting that the event was player initiated.
It started pretty late at night for EST players, and if I remember the first 24 hours of the game correctly, those 8 hours were pretty dead. (I at least don't remember having multiple pages to catch up on after waking up earlier in this day phase.)
I'm thinking the event was started by Sorian to try to keep up activity during that period, and that seemed to work.
It started pretty late at night for EST players, and if I remember the first 24 hours of the game correctly, those 8 hours were pretty dead. (I at least don't remember having multiple pages to catch up on after waking up earlier in this day phase.)
I'm thinking the event was started by Sorian to try to keep up activity during that period, and that seemed to work.
Elaborate on this "weird logic" in your own words.
Wouldn't say 'Trust', it's just that, last time I wanted to say No lynch, ppl didn't like it, but I didn't really know who to chose between you 2. I just went with the one I didn't know yet.
Insisting to vote someone new because they suggested a no lynch. Sounds dumb to me.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Ok there's way too many people just going with the flow at the moment. I already pointed out the unreasoned voted on melon and the poorly reasoned votes on me, but look at all these votes that trusted us both enough on day one to give up a lynch.
I had the benefit of knowing at least one of us is town, and my townreads on the other isn't even the main reason I voted no lynch: I went no lynch because I trust the cause of that thunderdome less than I trust melon.
There's way too many guilty of this to all be scum. If we all sit back and follow the crowd we'll sleepwalk into a mafia victory.
I had the benefit of knowing at least one of us is town, and my townreads on the other isn't even the main reason I voted no lynch: I went no lynch because I trust the cause of that thunderdome less than I trust melon.
There's way too many guilty of this to all be scum. If we all sit back and follow the crowd we'll sleepwalk into a mafia victory.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/wiki/Gladiator Gladiator appears to be official terminology for the event where the voting is forced.
I would lean towards it being an RNG event. Unlikely coincidences being RNG are hardly unheard of, and as has been said, it's too weak for it to reasonably be a scum power.
I would lean towards it being an RNG event. Unlikely coincidences being RNG are hardly unheard of, and as has been said, it's too weak for it to reasonably be a scum power.
Most town? I dunno. I like Faddy at the moment. He seems relaxed and moving through the thread with a good eye. I will probably try to collate a list later of people who’ve stuck out to me, but my typical day one list of everyone is not happening today.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
This makes more sense than what a lot of the no lynchers are claiming.
I literally, literally said that's not why I voted for him. Are you just parroting what other players say without reading the game??
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Melon, Splinter, Faddy, and Terra. I liked Include but it feels like they've been progressively becoming a lesser presence so that read is starting to slip. I could see Stuart rising to this group as well. I think as scum they would be more cautious given their relative inexperience.
In a game with 50 players that Sorian advertised as being similar in length to a normal game I doubt there is much need for nerfed roles. Only way it makes sense to me would be if they get multiple uses which will prove itself out in time if so.
See, this is some actual reasoning. Perhaps include it with your vote next time lol
Eh, I guess New guys usually start with weak reasoning, I didn't know who to pick between Splinter and melon tbh, and I didn't want to vote no lynch again because it didn't go so well the last time I did that. So i spared the one who defended me against someone who, like i said, didn't like when i voted no lynch.
Maybe then explain because all I saw was that and "reaction". It sounds weird to me even if you wanted a reaction out of him. A scum member and especially a scum new player wouldn't suggest to no lynch because he wants to WIN.
I'm not sure who my most Town is right now but scum wise, my head keeps going back to Rynam just because of his whole "I just went into the thread for the first time coincidentally when an event started, joined it, stayed for a bit, left after event" type of thing.
Trying not to tunnel or anything though but my head keeps going back to that.
Trying not to tunnel or anything though but my head keeps going back to that.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Slight town, ever so slight, and its just a gut feeling.
If we have multiple scum teams, and taking into account the large total player group, I don't think it is unreasonable that the event might have had more scum than town (7/13), but more realistically 5/13. Scum benefits a lot from lurking and snipe posting and snagging spots in events.
If we have just one very large scum team, I think it wouldn't go any more than 4 out of 13, and the more I think about it 3 out of 13 might be the spot. again based on typical scum play ( unless you get all the spots, don't overextend), total player size (50!) and how quick the sign ups were.
I wasn't in Archer, but If I recall those events always had a fair bit of scum.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Time for n-hourly super-friend Bear read! RAWR. Some others, Faddy at least iirc, mentioned how Bear felt like Monopoly. I get some hints of that too. Apart from the #feel Bear's idea that Vere planned to give the win to his scum friend seems too much of a leap. I feel Vere's confusion was genuine and thus I think it is almost impossible to get into his head. Perhaps he had a second to think of a plan. Perhaps he did not. But I feel that Vere's action would fit various scum and town and neutral Vere scenarios. So what does this say of the Bear? Minor scum lean, strongly influenced by the fact that Bear's been missing since last night. Would be nice to see where he stands now.
Maybe go back and read instead of repeating what other people say? "Winning" mafia isn't just about the first step, it's about the long haul. If anything is dumb, it's the assertion that no lynch indicates you must be town. If you read the game, I made it clear that it came across to me as if he was just jumping on the bandwagon without much reason. As weak as was the logic of the other no lynchers, they at least said something. His reason was outright flawed. The pressure on top of that was just an additional reason to maintain my vote.
And I know you're not acting as if new players aren't reactionary to votes when literally our last game on FAQs had a new player lose his shit because of it.
Your mind goes to him as town or scum? Because if you think he's the latter, as far as I can tell based on the voter bot, you don't even have a vote down.
I'm also not sure why you're already trying to preemptively set up a defense from the tunneling accusation. Comes across as weirdly paranoid, especially when you haven't even pushed too far in the Rynam direction as far as I've seen.
I wondered myself the same thing. But his opening statement is him saying this is getting boring, and then forces the event. If it was a PR id assume it would have been worded differently.
Verelios
Were-elios
Morning Guys
--You could have killed me
--How dare you almost choose me
--I want you dead for that
Otherwise you would've come out the gate with this. If you had actual reasoning for your vote then maybe it would hold, but you don't.
I'm confused why you're so butthurt over me almost picking you. If any of the other three were pissed I would understand but tf is this
Right out the event you're bitter. I initally thought it was a joke vote but
You went OMGUS on me? Because I almost picked you? When you don't even have a penalty?
And again, Geno seems oddly interested in how things would have affected him.
GTFO, you're literally rationalizing how it's a good thing we got penalized
So it was an OMGUS vote. And we come back to the topic of death, where you believe I should've died for your sins on the 4/50 chance of catching scum.
So you're mad I almost chose you...I'm guessing most mad because I regretted not choosing you.
So you want me to die?
That's bullshit. Your train of thought was very clearly
--You could have killed me
--How dare you almost choose me
--I want you dead for that
Otherwise you would've come out the gate with this. If you had actual reasoning for your vote then maybe it would hold, but you don't.
Scum and I don't have a vote down because I'm still considering my options before I finalize my vote rather than voting just to have a vote down with only half a day left.
I also first voted for Ry to draw him out and he never came out until the event. So my mind has been on that for a while. I just mentioned tunneling because it's a good reminder to myself not to tunnel one person. My mind is weird and can often get fixated on one thing so nice to remind myself not to do so :)
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
One thing I've been thinking about is what the voting in the event would be like from scum. Would they be more likely to vote each other or avoid it? I don't think it will get us anywhere now, but it's worth considering as we start seeing flips.
Also, while I still lean scum on you based on your approach to the Vere situation, this interaction has made me feel a bit better so I'm going to switch back to my stronger scumread.
VOTE: Apollo
I've forgotten who suggested it but I reckon looking for people who only came in to talk about the no-lynch, particularly if they did it after that discussion had fizzled out. Which means I just can't get zippedpinhead out of my head. Natiko also pointed out that he's not had a whole lot of engagement outside of talking about the events either. I'm more willing to overlook that given that these events are interesting and exciting and its probably fair enough to talk about them if you're having trouble getting a handle on day 1.
However coming in just to push on the no lynch discussion as it was winding down seems weird to me, particularly since there wasn't a shortage of things to talk about. Just skimming the previous 50 or so posts (from his first post on the no-lynch) has Terra continuing to make waves, Stan adding some more explanation for his defence of monkey and Splinter coming in with some early reads. Heck, the game literally started with a soft claim in the first post, so why did you decide to limit yourself to just talking about the no lynch @Zippedpinhead ?
I've not finished going back over the early stages of the game yet, so I might come back with a couple more people to ask this question of.
However coming in just to push on the no lynch discussion as it was winding down seems weird to me, particularly since there wasn't a shortage of things to talk about. Just skimming the previous 50 or so posts (from his first post on the no-lynch) has Terra continuing to make waves, Stan adding some more explanation for his defence of monkey and Splinter coming in with some early reads. Heck, the game literally started with a soft claim in the first post, so why did you decide to limit yourself to just talking about the no lynch @Zippedpinhead ?
I've not finished going back over the early stages of the game yet, so I might come back with a couple more people to ask this question of.
Page 8 on 100 ppp*
Wow that first sentence of mine was a botch job, it should read:
"I've forgotten who suggested it but I reckon looking for people who only came in to talk about the no-lynch is a good place to start in looking for scum, particularly if they did it after that discussion had fizzled out."
(apologies if this double posts but I'm not seeing it go through after the first time i hit post)
"I've forgotten who suggested it but I reckon looking for people who only came in to talk about the no-lynch is a good place to start in looking for scum, particularly if they did it after that discussion had fizzled out."
(apologies if this double posts but I'm not seeing it go through after the first time i hit post)
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I totally forgot about @CoolestSpot . Do you have any new thoughts to share? You kind of fell off the map.
LuxCommander
Bro.
Should have paid more attention to the clock. Looks like I've missed a lot. Need to do recon. Lack of Blarg is troubling, but need to move on. Looking forward to your report NZJubJub.
Good thought. Should sorth through that list and see if anyone trips any alarms. Would be a good place to start.
Good thought. Should sorth through that list and see if anyone trips any alarms. Would be a good place to start.
The only other person I'm seeing that fits my criteria is BladeSymphony, however right now I'm thinking that its more down to him trying to find his feet than a decision to not engage with other topics. If I do come back to him later I'll have to decide if calling for Blarg and pointing out Coolest's first post and empressdonna's "flying solo" remark are him treading water and being rescued by the event and Grizzly's vote, or if he was pointing at random things to make it look like he participated. I'm more inclined to believe the former, also even if I was suspicious of BladeSymphony seeing as he is a new player I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt for a couple of days while he grounds himself and gets used to things.
I may have missed someone as I'm getting fairly tired and searching for the phrase "No Lynch" isn't very helpful given how much it was used in the discussion around Stuart444. I'll be around a bit longer as I want to have at least another person I'm interested in before I head off. While I agree with Stuart in that Rynam dipping in for the event and then immediately ducking out is more than a little shady, I'm also giving him the benefit of the doubt here in that I don't want to hold it against him if something came up that stopped him from playing. Also I reckon that with the activity of today there must be a few more people out there who're already worthy of suspicion, so I'll look over the recent arguments and then the votes in the thunderdome and see if anyone jumps out to me.
I may have missed someone as I'm getting fairly tired and searching for the phrase "No Lynch" isn't very helpful given how much it was used in the discussion around Stuart444. I'll be around a bit longer as I want to have at least another person I'm interested in before I head off. While I agree with Stuart in that Rynam dipping in for the event and then immediately ducking out is more than a little shady, I'm also giving him the benefit of the doubt here in that I don't want to hold it against him if something came up that stopped him from playing. Also I reckon that with the activity of today there must be a few more people out there who're already worthy of suspicion, so I'll look over the recent arguments and then the votes in the thunderdome and see if anyone jumps out to me.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Most Town?
Stan gives me good vibes thus far. I can't base it on much other than meta but his play does some consistent with whom I know to be town!Stan. I also feel strongly about Monkey and Stuart and lean town on both. Both are participating and been active and no lurking in the shadows for a quick one line or shadow vote.
And after that Thunderdome, I feel much better about Splinter who was calm and cool under pressure despite waking up to something I suspect was less than favorable with him being the lead in a surprise event.
Also, while obviously I don't agree with Gorlak's conclusion. I do like that he posted his thoughts in such a detailed manner, supported his findings and stuck to his guns when it wasn't the popular opinion. So that's one vote I'm okay with.
Stan gives me good vibes thus far. I can't base it on much other than meta but his play does some consistent with whom I know to be town!Stan. I also feel strongly about Monkey and Stuart and lean town on both. Both are participating and been active and no lurking in the shadows for a quick one line or shadow vote.
And after that Thunderdome, I feel much better about Splinter who was calm and cool under pressure despite waking up to something I suspect was less than favorable with him being the lead in a surprise event.
Also, while obviously I don't agree with Gorlak's conclusion. I do like that he posted his thoughts in such a detailed manner, supported his findings and stuck to his guns when it wasn't the popular opinion. So that's one vote I'm okay with.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'm wondering if -- pure speculation -- there's a reason Blarg can't post. Maybe some kind of restriction? I have nothing to back this up other than it is a Sorian game and also we don't have any minimum post requirements this game. So posting at odd time is possible.
Or he forgot.
He probably forgot.
Well Hecht said he forgot earlier so it's not impossible. Could also be he forgot and when he remembered, he was busy or something lol.
Verelios
Were-elios
Maybe D1 just isn't stimulating enough
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
This obverstation on Zubz and general insights makes me feel pretty good about Nat overall.
Zubz flip-flopping to end on Splinter was certainly headscratching but I'm not sure I take this last bit as literal as you, @Natiko:
Are you theorizing this is one kind of PR or just unbreakable pride on the issue of no lynch?
Zubz flip-flopping to end on Splinter was certainly headscratching but I'm not sure I take this last bit as literal as you, @Natiko:
Are you theorizing this is one kind of PR or just unbreakable pride on the issue of no lynch?
What criteria do I fit?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
You ain't right
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Can't give any reads rn would love some soft role claim tho
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I feel you are getting more and more aggressive this game.
Dare I say sharky?
How do you really feel about D1?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'll be honest, I have no definite read on anyone right now outside of contradicting behavior that others have pointed out and soft claims that some people are passing off as jokes.
A lot of that has to do with the size of the game, however. I think I will go back and see if I can catalog what has happened so far that is of interest.
A lot of that has to do with the size of the game, however. I think I will go back and see if I can catalog what has happened so far that is of interest.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Verelios
Were-elios
...
I kind of agree, only because no one would be happy with someone continually shitting on their head.
Not a lot. I didn't scum read either of you but based on activity I did want you to stay. Whether that was correct, I dunno.
She gonna get you.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm null on him. I'm not sure if I've ever actually played with Grizzly before.. I probably have, but I'm blanking on when. I don't feel good about his disappearing act today. Also, does he always post so..smugly? I don't remember that from when I've spectated games he has been in.
I'm theorizing that he doesn't want to leave an easily observed trail of his decision. Several of us (including myself) will often go back and look at vote breakdowns over several day phases to try and find trends. One way for scum to avoid being caught out in that is to not leave a very large trail to look at, especially since it's not uncommon for someone to look at votes and not take the time to look up the full context for each and every vote/unvote due to the sheer time sink it can be. By unvoting instead of voting no lynch he won't show up as easily as having changed tactics late in the procession.
Just why
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Nope. I am not the God of Thunder. I live in the sea.
I don’t want to quote all that but I agree with Natiko’s take re: votes and records. I considered encouraging Stuart to go ahead and vote earlier for that reason when he said he was still thinking but ehhh, I guess I can see it when EoD several hours away.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Do you think Splinter did it?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I think that is unlikely.
OK, it's becoming increasingly clear to me that this game demands my constant attention lol. I think I actually would've voted for someone in that thunderdome because I totally misread the rules and thought Day 1 would end after the vote. I was pretty confused as to why so many people were voting No Lynch, but then Sorian posted that Day 1.8 continues, so yeah.
Note to self: Read Sorian's rules very carefully from now on.
Vote: Rynam
But other than that, I don't feel strongly about anything right now. You'll see me later when I start to pursuit people, though! I can be very... overzealous once I get a scum read. This has led me to getting lynched in the past (that, and mechanics talk, but being a programmer and everything I love to discover game mechanics), but it's really the only way I know how to play. =P
Note to self: Read Sorian's rules very carefully from now on.
Rynam. It was his first post in the thread and his following posts have just been about the event and not the actual Mafia game. That just seems super suspicious to me because it goes beyond just lurking. So, I might as well do this:
Vote: Rynam
But other than that, I don't feel strongly about anything right now. You'll see me later when I start to pursuit people, though! I can be very... overzealous once I get a scum read. This has led me to getting lynched in the past (that, and mechanics talk, but being a programmer and everything I love to discover game mechanics), but it's really the only way I know how to play. =P
OK, so much have happened and I just got home and haven't caught up fully, however I read through the second event and what caught my eyes is the blood lust some have without questioning first why and who created that event and who would it benefit to? Why jump straight to voting while you had time to think first? Why so quick to sacrifice players you would not have lynched if it wasn't for this event?
For me, I really doubt Sorian made a forced event that may penalize us the most, like if both Melon and Splinter are town, we will be losing one of our own because the game runner feels like it? It's unfair! why do we even play a game if the game runner can just force the outcome? It doesn't make sense, it's hard enough to pin down scums as it is, no need for the game runner to rig it, so no I 100% don't think it's Sorian.
I think a player did it, most definitely a Villain. The timing is too convenient, like for us EU we would be at work, school...etc. and for the rest they may be sleeping. Best time to push their agenda and create a fake urgency and confusion.
The player who did this must have calculated it to get a free townie kill while people are too confused to make a good judgement, and if that person is part of the community for a long time then they know about Mel and splint rivalry and wanted to have fun with it methinks.
Anyway, something else bothered me is Geno guilt tripping and trying to push others to lynch. Let's remember that he seemed really mad that Vere may have chosen him and thus putting him in danger instead of risking 4 others (if I understand the event properly). Thus I feel like he find his life more valuable than the rest of us, he rather others dies no matter who as long as it's not him.
So congratulations Stuart, not only do you appear to be more town today by actually getting involved instead of complaining about probe votes but I also found someone scumier than you. Rest assured though, he is just few percentage higher than you in my scale.
Really? How is a manufactured thunderdome going to help us learn anything? This is not our community choice but most certainly an anti town, how would we learn from the voting behavior or reaction to voting them if we aren't the ones doing the actually choosing? How would we have players' interactions and content to look later on if we don't get the chance to?
You are trying to equate normal lynch (which takes place after 48h of content) that would provide with real time accurate data, to a manufactured event!
Oh yeah, let's guilt trip others for not playing along in a fishy ass event, most likely created by an anti town. Yeah yeah. suuuuuure....
Let's pretend normal lynch and manufactured event is the same thing, you know what's it's called? It's called bad faith!
Vote: Geno
For me, I really doubt Sorian made a forced event that may penalize us the most, like if both Melon and Splinter are town, we will be losing one of our own because the game runner feels like it? It's unfair! why do we even play a game if the game runner can just force the outcome? It doesn't make sense, it's hard enough to pin down scums as it is, no need for the game runner to rig it, so no I 100% don't think it's Sorian.
I think a player did it, most definitely a Villain. The timing is too convenient, like for us EU we would be at work, school...etc. and for the rest they may be sleeping. Best time to push their agenda and create a fake urgency and confusion.
The player who did this must have calculated it to get a free townie kill while people are too confused to make a good judgement, and if that person is part of the community for a long time then they know about Mel and splint rivalry and wanted to have fun with it methinks.
Anyway, something else bothered me is Geno guilt tripping and trying to push others to lynch. Let's remember that he seemed really mad that Vere may have chosen him and thus putting him in danger instead of risking 4 others (if I understand the event properly). Thus I feel like he find his life more valuable than the rest of us, he rather others dies no matter who as long as it's not him.
So congratulations Stuart, not only do you appear to be more town today by actually getting involved instead of complaining about probe votes but I also found someone scumier than you. Rest assured though, he is just few percentage higher than you in my scale.
Really? How is a manufactured thunderdome going to help us learn anything? This is not our community choice but most certainly an anti town, how would we learn from the voting behavior or reaction to voting them if we aren't the ones doing the actually choosing? How would we have players' interactions and content to look later on if we don't get the chance to?
You are trying to equate normal lynch (which takes place after 48h of content) that would provide with real time accurate data, to a manufactured event!
Oh yeah, let's guilt trip others for not playing along in a fishy ass event, most likely created by an anti town. Yeah yeah. suuuuuure....
Let's pretend normal lynch and manufactured event is the same thing, you know what's it's called? It's called bad faith!
Vote: Geno
So looks like no event today.
@Natiko I knew flipping back from my vote last night would get called out. I hadn't really noticed anything crazy about either melon or splinter but, I had just got done doing a read and posting my thoughts so the anti no lynch day 1 sentiment was still in my head. When I woke up I realized that I was wrong. But hey I made the vote and I own it.
@Natiko I knew flipping back from my vote last night would get called out. I hadn't really noticed anything crazy about either melon or splinter but, I had just got done doing a read and posting my thoughts so the anti no lynch day 1 sentiment was still in my head. When I woke up I realized that I was wrong. But hey I made the vote and I own it.
I'm a fan of Natiko's breakdown of a bunch of votes from the thunderdome (#1069) and zubz being particularly weird there does strike a chord with me. Although I'm just too tired right now to look into him now and I saw something from zippedpinhead that makes me confident enough that I don't need to. More on that in a bit.
In response to Natiko's big post on zippedpinhead (#1038) we get this:
At this point I'm cool with dropping this here:
VOTE: zippedpinhead
I'll be around for another 5-10 mins but probably no longer than that.
People who came in during the early game (I'm putting that at the time before the first event) but only engaged with the No Lynch discussion and nothing else.
In response to Natiko's big post on zippedpinhead (#1038) we get this:
and a clarification of his point about Geno:
So other than the barebones readlist everything there comes out of the first of today's events. I know I said fair enough if someone struggling to get a hold on the day's events latches onto the events, but zippedpinhead doesn't seem to be struggling to me. Also, perhaps I misunderstood, but isn't your hard on for Verelios one of the things Natiko was referring to when he said "what are your thoughts on this game outside of the few listed above?". So why is it that two of your four lines here (lets be real in that the BladeSymphony line is actually more about Verelios) are still talking about that?
At this point I'm cool with dropping this here:
VOTE: zippedpinhead
I'll be around for another 5-10 mins but probably no longer than that.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Why the unvote instead of voting no lynch?
This is actually... a rather convincing argument for it being player started. Not 100% confident that you're right but I'm much more willing to believe that it could be a player started event.
Of course Sorian could have done an RNG style pick of two players and started it but these two specific players would be a bit coincidental (for the record: I have no idea about this rivalry, I'm just going off what other people are saying about them)
Thanks? But when did I complain about probe votes? If you mean my replies to you. I wasn't complaining about your vote on me, I was complaining about what you actually said besides voting. The whole "prone to doing gambits as scum" thing.
Which is still BS even now honestly.
Here, I responded to you being annoyed that I'm slipping past for being the first to suggest a no lynch. Nothing defensive here, just a statement of fact.
You then say I'm prone to gambits as scum (Being scum once, how can I be prone to anything, As scum, I made literally one gambit which was to save myself and it failed) and I'm being defensive for what is a statement of fact from my point of view.
I have to question why you're continuing to use this against me when there is nothing scumish from me to use honestly.
==== DAY 1.8 VOTES ====
Day Start
verelios (3 votes)
geno - #1001
xbro - #1050
kyanrute - #1128
zippedpinhead (2 votes)
natiko - #1038 #1132
bladesymphony - #1043
nzjubjub - #1169
rynam (2 votes)
terraforce - #1044
poltergust - #1166
geno (2 votes)
faddy - #1013
include - #1167
blargonaut (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #1039
apollo (1 votes)
natiko - #1132
natiko (1 votes)
hecht - #1073
gorlak (1 votes)
heymonkey - #1051
terraforce (0 votes)
faddy - #1004 #1013
Post Counts:
stuart444: 23 faddy: 16 natiko: 13 heymonkey: 13 geno: 13 terraforce: 12 melonrabbit: 9 kyanrute: 7 dcpat: 6 hecht: 5 nin1000: 5 alexem: 5 sorian: 5 splinter: 4 nzjubjub: 4 zippedpinhead: 3 verelios: 3 nomad sparkster: 3 bladesymphony: 3 xbro: 3 ferg: 2 hom3land: 2 empressdonna: 2 muffin: 1 include: 1 poltergust: 1 sawneeks: 1 necktochicken: 1 crimsonfist: 1 fireblend: 1 extreme tactician: 1 ynnek7: 1 luxcommander: 1
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Day 1 Ends In:
Day Start
verelios (3 votes)
geno - #1001
xbro - #1050
kyanrute - #1128
zippedpinhead (2 votes)
bladesymphony - #1043
nzjubjub - #1169
rynam (2 votes)
terraforce - #1044
poltergust - #1166
geno (2 votes)
faddy - #1013
include - #1167
blargonaut (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #1039
apollo (1 votes)
natiko - #1132
natiko (1 votes)
hecht - #1073
gorlak (1 votes)
heymonkey - #1051
terraforce (0 votes)
Post Counts:
stuart444: 23 faddy: 16 natiko: 13 heymonkey: 13 geno: 13 terraforce: 12 melonrabbit: 9 kyanrute: 7 dcpat: 6 hecht: 5 nin1000: 5 alexem: 5 sorian: 5 splinter: 4 nzjubjub: 4 zippedpinhead: 3 verelios: 3 nomad sparkster: 3 bladesymphony: 3 xbro: 3 ferg: 2 hom3land: 2 empressdonna: 2 muffin: 1 include: 1 poltergust: 1 sawneeks: 1 necktochicken: 1 crimsonfist: 1 fireblend: 1 extreme tactician: 1 ynnek7: 1 luxcommander: 1
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Day 1 Ends In:
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
unvote
No sense on waiting on a watched Blarg.
Going back to work for a bit. Hoping to make it back before deadline.
I'm thinking Verelios isn't a bad place to start or Zubz.
No sense on waiting on a watched Blarg.
Going back to work for a bit. Hoping to make it back before deadline.
I'm thinking Verelios isn't a bad place to start or Zubz.
Verelios
Were-elios
Just so you know, the vote didn't work.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So is no one else reading Apollo as scum? I'll move my vote closer to day end to my highest scum read in contention if Apollo doesn't pick up any steam.
Did you see my question about his typical habits in games? Curious to see if I'm just not remembering correctly or what.
Verelios
Were-elios
Are you using the [ highlight] tags?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Are you using the Highlight tag?
Verelios
Were-elios
I was using the color option but I guess that's the wrong way
VOTE: Geno
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
The name of my disappearance act is called "I had a busy day." I'm slightly worried for D2/D3, those are full of pride events that take all of my time :x.
Faddy, you should put your mouth where you mouth is. So much padding in those "Grizzly you totes scum" posts, yet you don't act on it.
Looks like I missed the whole Melon vs Splinter event. Doesn't seem likely that a townie would have started that - thunderdomes don't usually benefit town, especially in D1 of all times. So either it was deliberate game design choice, or a scum/neutral triggered it.
Looks like that negated my vote to Verelios. Looking at the previous hurdle, I'm not sure any more if there was actual intent in giving Blade the item win. But his panicking response to the queries about it still don't instill any confidence to me.
VOTE: Verelios
Faddy, you should put your mouth where you mouth is. So much padding in those "Grizzly you totes scum" posts, yet you don't act on it.
Looks like I missed the whole Melon vs Splinter event. Doesn't seem likely that a townie would have started that - thunderdomes don't usually benefit town, especially in D1 of all times. So either it was deliberate game design choice, or a scum/neutral triggered it.
Looks like that negated my vote to Verelios. Looking at the previous hurdle, I'm not sure any more if there was actual intent in giving Blade the item win. But his panicking response to the queries about it still don't instill any confidence to me.
VOTE: Verelios
On Zubz, I will say that the only game I’ve played with him he went sorta hard gambiting on his role and ended up in Hawaii 5-0 with Blarg masquerading as each others roles. It’s possible that unhealthy fascination with Namor is transposed from some other target (not Tina Turner).
You two are quoting him and should already know the answer to that question lol.
Actually no. I found this out after I posted that but my text editor box is in the format (is it Rich text format?) where it doesn't show tags however I also found out that you can click the BB Code editor (which I forget is there a lot of the time) button at the top right of the quick reply box and it shows the tags.
Good to know.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
You want me to vote for you because....
Look the accusation is pretty clear. You are playing the exact same game as monopoly. many other people are scum reading you, no one is even trying to defend you. I was the only person who really spoke in your defense but others have change my mind.
Verelios
Were-elios
What panicking response? People say that and expect me to take their words at face value but show me where that is.
I beg to differ, you were defensive, your answer was curt and you closed up telling me straight up that you don't want to discuss it because you talked about it enough.
Let's recap, you first mentioned the no lynch and then being ok with it then changed your tune when people went against faddy and monkey like suddenly you were like "eh true, scum may kill too blabla so lynch is ok now blabla". Luckily for you, you went unnoticed until I probe voted you and your answer was curt and defensive and like I said you didn't even want to engage me, and then double posted to again to let me know that you only played scum once and I cannot make conclusion, I read your game and in the scum chat you gambled on your PR and you were daring for your first time too.
Afterwards you were questioned by others after me and you were this time helpful to "link your posts", use the newbie card (some of us are all noobs and to be frank you at least had experience as both scum and town which I didn't even have) and yet you were pretending that you didn't know that scums may kill us regardless? Like seriously? By the end you were quick to please and mellow down.
Today, you changed tune entirely, it's too fake because if I compare your posts from yesterday to today it's like day and night. Today you are more involved for certain so unlike yesterday.
Please be my guest and try to gaslight me further, just know that sooner or later your façade will break and then like usual people will see that I was right, I may not be best I arguing or expressing myself properly but I know I am right when I am right, and this time I know that I am right about you, that you showed your scuminess on D1 and today you are faking it.
Others will see it from your voting behavior on day ends vites sooner or later, so I am not that worried and rest assured if it wasn't for blood thirsty Geno being even more obvious than you, then my vote would have stayed on you.
I am, just obviously acknowledging that. People may have short term memory and excuse you but I don't.
LuxCommander
Bro.
The thought crossed my mind. Could be stuck in a different dimension or timeline. I doubt he just forgot, but then again... Hard to say.
Putting this vote down in case I don't make end of day... Meetings... Not my most informed vote, but Day 1 rarely is.
VOTE: Verelios
I just want to comment on this part in particular. I'm different today because I had a good nights sleep. I was up for 24 hours and well, I'm not good at handling those (despite doing it so much not by choice) so being different today is pretty much down to, I'm actually awake and not deathly tired and wanting to sleep.
Aka reasons not relating to the game is why I may seem different.
It's the app that my baby cousins plays but with cards instead, got it! Thanks!
I didn't get 4.1 and 4.2 and how they works together, but whatever at this rate I am not sure I am even gonna understand it truly, just hope the next events will not have this mechanic. Thanks to you too.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I'm mostly referencing the back-and-forth you had with people (mostly Kyan) between around posts 649 and 750
You are using real life and as people who played Buffy with me would know I respect and trust people who tell me that RL was the issue for how they are playing or not playing.
So I am trusting what you say now and I am willing to give you the benefit of doubt about yesterday, I cannot lie and tell you that I am not gonna be wary of you regardless I can't help my feelings, but you just went with your honesty about RL matters from 75% scum to 55%.
I respect fair-play and hope that you do as well.
Verelios
Were-elios
What exactly made you think I was panicked? Specifically, because Kyan believes I drip fed information (why, I don't know) so I know he's looking for something, but other votes just have a general hanging on.