Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This
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Kalor
Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
If you're town, why would scum night kill you when other people are willing to do it themselve?
fixing some little things I see now
Anyway, best I'm gonna do tonight is divide into read chunks. If I missed anyone, I'm sorry. I'll add some notes tomorrow.
Town:
Ezekel
Kawl
zipped
Townlean:
Ferg/rac
DCPat
Natiko
Geno
Ynnek
melon
Sawneeks
LuxCommander
Poltergust (but like, use your ITA shots, man)
Xbro/Fando
Null:
BladeSymphony
Stan (was above, but seeing that he hasn't voted moved him down for me)
Alexem
Gorlak (maybe closer to townlean but not really sure)
Muffin
Brazil
Nomad
Scumpossibles:
Zubz
hom3land/Kalor
NZJubJub
Swamped
Blargonaut
ExtremeTactician
NecktoChicken
faircure
unknown due to having done so little:
briefs_cat
Lone_Prodigy
oreomunsta
CoolestSpot
vote: NZJubJub
A lot has happened, JubJub, but you haven't. Where are you?
Town:
Ezekel
Kawl
zipped
Townlean:
Ferg/rac
DCPat
Natiko
Geno
Ynnek
melon
Sawneeks
LuxCommander
Poltergust (but like, use your ITA shots, man)
Xbro/Fando
Null:
BladeSymphony
Stan (was above, but seeing that he hasn't voted moved him down for me)
Alexem
Gorlak (maybe closer to townlean but not really sure)
Muffin
Brazil
Nomad
Scumpossibles:
Zubz
hom3land/Kalor
NZJubJub
Swamped
Blargonaut
ExtremeTactician
NecktoChicken
faircure
unknown due to having done so little:
briefs_cat
Lone_Prodigy
oreomunsta
CoolestSpot
vote: NZJubJub
A lot has happened, JubJub, but you haven't. Where are you?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Blarg is scum?
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
hey
signed up for the event
Promptly forgot I did
MVP
signed up for the event
Promptly forgot I did
MVP
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
rac
whatever
still did better than me
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Decided to start off looking at the true inactives, those with 25 or less posts.
briefs_cat
There's nothing here. Like, literally nothing. Only one post of interest and while I would have the tiniest town read on it based on the reluctance to shoot when they haven't been keeping up with the thread it's entirely possible the scum team would tell them to not shoot due to the same thing. Null, but would not cry if they were gone.
NZJubJub
Overall reading JubJub was a steep decline, I started out feeling pretty good, and as soon as he couldn't rely on his case on Zipped that feeling quickly evaporated. Lean scum.
Lone_Prodigy
I mean, I'm going to be honest. There's very little here but I want to lean scum and maybe it's complete chance but why does like..every post from LP that mentions another player except one contain a now confirmed scum? Also sorta makes me for the first time actually feel a small amount of doubt on my read of Melon. Very little evidence, but a weird coincidence otherwise. Lean scum.
oreomunsta
Not a lot here, and he fell off the face of the planet a few days back. Null, but I'd probably axe briefs_cat first as far as nulls go.
Now I'm going to take a look at some of the remaining players. I was thinking Alexem, Muffin, DCPAT, Swamped, Faircure, NecktoChicken, and CoolestSpot as I feel like all of them are players I could use a better grasp on. If there's someone else that you particularly want to hear my thoughts on let me know while I have time tonight.
briefs_cat
There's nothing here. Like, literally nothing. Only one post of interest and while I would have the tiniest town read on it based on the reluctance to shoot when they haven't been keeping up with the thread it's entirely possible the scum team would tell them to not shoot due to the same thing. Null, but would not cry if they were gone.
NZJubJub
Going to talk about this below
Small bit of defense of Rynam. Nothing too crazy, but it did jump out at me.
So here you'll see a series of posts that make up a pretty big tunnel on JubJub's part. Generally this big of a tunnel I tend to town read, mainly because I feel like scum will at least try and switch it up now and then. He does put in some effort on a few of these posts and seem to genuinely be trying to make an argument for why Zipped is scum. Good feels.
So this is where things take a bit of a turn.. while he did post this after the flip, based on the wording it sounds like it was typed prior to it. He's essentially saying "I haven't seen Vere's flip yet, but I already think based on it I won't be shooting Zipped". Considering how deep his tunnel was, it seems odd to me that he would backpedal so fast and supposedly before even knowing the result of Vere's flip.
Next we have another eyebrow raise. JubJub out of nowhere decides to shoot at Geno without any real justification. You know who else shot at Geno just a few posts before this? Include. JubJub even goes on to discuss how he doesn't have a fully realized opinion of Geno. Yikes.
Gasp, JubJub found a reason to scum read the person he apparently already thought was worth killing. He doesn't build as strong of a case here as he tried on Zipped. Bad feelings.
About the only relevant post today. Waffles around, comes to the general conclusion that it could be any which way. Generally null, but not an impressive post.
Overall reading JubJub was a steep decline, I started out feeling pretty good, and as soon as he couldn't rely on his case on Zipped that feeling quickly evaporated. Lean scum.
Lone_Prodigy
I mean, I'm going to be honest. There's very little here but I want to lean scum and maybe it's complete chance but why does like..every post from LP that mentions another player except one contain a now confirmed scum? Also sorta makes me for the first time actually feel a small amount of doubt on my read of Melon. Very little evidence, but a weird coincidence otherwise. Lean scum.
oreomunsta
Not a lot here, and he fell off the face of the planet a few days back. Null, but I'd probably axe briefs_cat first as far as nulls go.
Now I'm going to take a look at some of the remaining players. I was thinking Alexem, Muffin, DCPAT, Swamped, Faircure, NecktoChicken, and CoolestSpot as I feel like all of them are players I could use a better grasp on. If there's someone else that you particularly want to hear my thoughts on let me know while I have time tonight.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I'm more interested in either Stan or NZJubDub being either scum buddies or not
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Oh btw for our foreign players this is 4th of july week so activity will be light until the weekend or whatever
Realized midway that my read lists sucks and that big posts in this game make me lazy, but some reads.
Top town to me are Geno, heymonkey, Ezekel, Ynnek, Zip, Kawl and Gorlak
Most of these are self explanatory, so for monkey and Gorlak.
heymonkey - I like monkey. She seems to be saying whatever is on her mind and going for a lot of different angles at the same time, not just at different players but playstyles and activity and all that. Would be really surprised if she turned out to be scum.
Gorlak - Might be a little based but his effort on the beginning of the day phase helped me parse a bunch of the rest of the game, albeit still hard to read into vote speculation without reading it back. I liked his reaction to Include's fake claim, I don't think that was a scum duo putting out a fake act together.
Scum reads right now are Extreme, Muffin, Coolest and Nomad.
Extreme - Hard gut feeling since before I joined the game. Posts are unsubstantial overall, and here and there we get this weird confusing post that doesn't make much sense. Fits what I expect from a new player playing scum (this is his second game right?). Didn't like his reactions to Include, especially in contrast to Gorlak's posts.
Muffin - Too defensive so far, felt stuck in a comfortable zone without much interest in pushing for either side and content in sticking by the sidelines, which also fits his legendary neutral status as well. At the same time I get the feeling that always enjoys going for the long run and avoids the taking the spotlight, so his passive style might be showing off now.
CoolestSpot - Main point is that I don't like the Geno thing here, feels to me like it's a way to pad out his contributions to the thread. Differently than Geno, he's been pretty inactive so this got my attention right away. I totally understand that this could be due to RL issues though, but it's on my mind already.
Nomad - first game I have with him, but already kinda familiar with his antics. Still can't read him for shit, his overall randomness can go either way and I haven't seen him play scum to see if he would change that. I have the feeling that it is impossible for him to reach end game with this type of attitude, as town or scum, and his chances are even smaller in a game like this. In the end, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he flipped scum.
Top town to me are Geno, heymonkey, Ezekel, Ynnek, Zip, Kawl and Gorlak
Most of these are self explanatory, so for monkey and Gorlak.
heymonkey - I like monkey. She seems to be saying whatever is on her mind and going for a lot of different angles at the same time, not just at different players but playstyles and activity and all that. Would be really surprised if she turned out to be scum.
Gorlak - Might be a little based but his effort on the beginning of the day phase helped me parse a bunch of the rest of the game, albeit still hard to read into vote speculation without reading it back. I liked his reaction to Include's fake claim, I don't think that was a scum duo putting out a fake act together.
Scum reads right now are Extreme, Muffin, Coolest and Nomad.
Extreme - Hard gut feeling since before I joined the game. Posts are unsubstantial overall, and here and there we get this weird confusing post that doesn't make much sense. Fits what I expect from a new player playing scum (this is his second game right?). Didn't like his reactions to Include, especially in contrast to Gorlak's posts.
Muffin - Too defensive so far, felt stuck in a comfortable zone without much interest in pushing for either side and content in sticking by the sidelines, which also fits his legendary neutral status as well. At the same time I get the feeling that always enjoys going for the long run and avoids the taking the spotlight, so his passive style might be showing off now.
CoolestSpot - Main point is that I don't like the Geno thing here, feels to me like it's a way to pad out his contributions to the thread. Differently than Geno, he's been pretty inactive so this got my attention right away. I totally understand that this could be due to RL issues though, but it's on my mind already.
Nomad - first game I have with him, but already kinda familiar with his antics. Still can't read him for shit, his overall randomness can go either way and I haven't seen him play scum to see if he would change that. I have the feeling that it is impossible for him to reach end game with this type of attitude, as town or scum, and his chances are even smaller in a game like this. In the end, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he flipped scum.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Extreme would be more likely to flip scum more then I woul tbqh
there's been more suspicion on him then there's been on me
FWIW
there's been more suspicion on him then there's been on me
FWIW
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Next up Alexem, there's a lot more to weed through than the low activity players so bare with me.
All that said, I think I would put Alexem at a light town lean. There's a couple bits in there that ping my radar as concerning, but there's a progression in logic and an attentiveness that I don't think most scum show.
Waffles on Vere, null overall.
It's a bit interesting to me that Alexem didn't want to commit to no lynch until it gained traction from other players. It's a small thing, but I wanted to point it out.
Lists Ry and Neck, we'll come back to this.
Joke looks bad after Grizzly's flip, but not sure scum make this joke unless they're comfortable.
Landing on Ry over Neck is a good look, but Ry was already getting some traction so it's not huge town points.
Scum that are bussing probably won't be so lackadaisical. Keep in mind this was all scum up for contention as well.
This bit does feel a little iffy, again though it was all scum in contention. If scum knows they're fucked would they feel the need for hand wringing? Some townie vibes.
Overall I like the tone of this post, but of everything in his post history the last line here probably sticks out to me as the worst bit. Alexem spent the end of D1 talking about how he felt the Grizzly lynch was iffy and he was suspect of those on it...only to turn around and go "wow, how dare anyone do something that could influence the lynch away from Grizzly". Just feels a bit disingenuous.
Doubles down on the above.
This gives me good feelings as well. The progression from hearing the idea, taking some time, and then responding with his take feels genuine.
NAI currently. If we ever verify what caused their deaths, it could be favorable for Alexem that he brought this up unprovoked.
Good vibes here, steering things back towards a conflict we now know had scum on it. Doesn't take the easy path of trying to veer the discussion to Ynnek.
Again, still feels bad compared to what he was saying at actual D1 end. Same for the below.
I like that he's pushing and not just accepting the slow drip feed of "info". On a side note - I wonder what might shake out if we look at who all was around during the stand off between Include and I and if any of them avoided the topic directly, stalled, etc. I don't recall off the top of my head but could be worth a look.
The main thing here is that it's odd to me he admits Ezekel and Melon both look bad from this theory, but he doesn't really direct much of it towards Melon.
All that said, I think I would put Alexem at a light town lean. There's a couple bits in there that ping my radar as concerning, but there's a progression in logic and an attentiveness that I don't think most scum show.
We still got a ITA to go, but votes do seem weak so far.
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
blargonaut (2 votes)
rac - #4632
bladesymphony - #4644
nzjubjub (2 votes)
kawl - #4735
heymonkey - #4906
nomad sparkster (1 votes)
lone stranger - #4779
natiko (1 votes)
blargonaut - #4200
coolestspot (1 votes)
geno - #4652
hom3land (1 votes)
heymonkey - #4565 #4906
luxcommander - #4571
faircure (1 votes)
dcpat - #4804
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 111 heymonkey: 95 gorlak: 83 stuart444: 82 blargonaut: 59 muffin: 54 sorian: 49 melonrabbit: 42 extreme tactician: 35 brazil: 34 sawneeks: 34 rac: 34 nomad sparkster: 30 geno: 29 stanleypalmtree: 28 kawl: 26 natiko: 25 coolestspot: 24 alexem: 23 luxcommander: 19 dcpat: 15 poltergust: 14 swamped: 13 fandorin: 13 include: 11 kalor: 9 ynnek7: 9 zippedpinhead: 8 faircure: 8 necktochicken: 7 bladesymphony: 5 nzjubjub: 4 lone stranger: 3 hom3land: 3 zubz: 2 xbro: 2
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Don't care much for these votes for Blarg... haven't payed attention to NzJubjub though, and those votes seem more cool.
VOTE: Extreme Tactician
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
blargonaut (2 votes)
rac - #4632
bladesymphony - #4644
nzjubjub (2 votes)
kawl - #4735
heymonkey - #4906
nomad sparkster (1 votes)
lone stranger - #4779
natiko (1 votes)
blargonaut - #4200
coolestspot (1 votes)
geno - #4652
hom3land (1 votes)
luxcommander - #4571
faircure (1 votes)
dcpat - #4804
Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 111 heymonkey: 95 gorlak: 83 stuart444: 82 blargonaut: 59 muffin: 54 sorian: 49 melonrabbit: 42 extreme tactician: 35 brazil: 34 sawneeks: 34 rac: 34 nomad sparkster: 30 geno: 29 stanleypalmtree: 28 kawl: 26 natiko: 25 coolestspot: 24 alexem: 23 luxcommander: 19 dcpat: 15 poltergust: 14 swamped: 13 fandorin: 13 include: 11 kalor: 9 ynnek7: 9 zippedpinhead: 8 faircure: 8 necktochicken: 7 bladesymphony: 5 nzjubjub: 4 lone stranger: 3 hom3land: 3 zubz: 2 xbro: 2
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Don't care much for these votes for Blarg... haven't payed attention to NzJubjub though, and those votes seem more cool.
VOTE: Extreme Tactician
These all feel like town Stan. Benefit of the doubt, working through things, being snarky as hell while also being trusting. I can also wonder if he’s feeling disconnected a bit due to the size of the game making him feel more time distanced than usual. But that should make him more likely to float a vote, not less. Doubtful we are hitting maj after all.
What I don’t like is that Stan didn’t give an alternative. He wanted to wait on the Nat/Include situation. Cool. That isn’t something I’m going to autoscumread. But there’s nothing else really. No vote down. No other case. That bothers me. I can’t get a read on him. Maybe if we don’t see another major situation before EOD, we can get some regular reads/thoughts from him.
I could buy this, to be honest.
Yup. I think I’m just going to type up a vote, set an alarm, & fire at someone hoping they weren’t cleared while I snoozed.
L
Lone Stranger
Guest
Vote: nzjubjub
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'll see what I can do. I have about 2.5 hours free until I need to get some sleep, so if I end up not getting everyone then my bad. I'll bump those two up sooner rather than later since they were requested.
Yeah, yeah mom.
VOTE: NZJubJub
I have positive feelings on Stan as it sits, but I'll do my read of him and see the result. If I were to guess we have 4-5 scum left but I've only ever designed two games so my pinpoint on that probably isn't the most accurate.
I believe Natiko over Include.
HAKAI: Include
KEEPING IT STYLISH, YAHOO, JACKPOT: Include
If this hits, I'm just being lucky.
I bet there is more than one scum in these shots.
Do you talk?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Starting to really trust you some. I understand some of stan's disconnectedness to the game as there's so much stuff going on it's kinda like calvinball except Sorianball and It's Sorian that knows what's going on which is whole new realm of terrifiying that my mind will not comprehend
I dunno, Fandorin. As suspicious as people have been of the shots, I would actually be surprised if it was more than one. Certainly not more than two. The team has to be shrinking and no ones getting cred. If she had lived to the third ITA? Yeah, absolutely.
Not impossible, certainly. But I’m right now very curious about the people sitting on shots.
Not impossible, certainly. But I’m right now very curious about the people sitting on shots.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
@Lone Stranger ???????
Any possibility of you being a PR for town or are you just laying pennies on the track, praying for a derail
Any possibility of you being a PR for town or are you just laying pennies on the track, praying for a derail
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
FWIW I sat on my shots because i had no idea I could do shots and they only reason I attempted to shot you was I was being an ahole
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
If I was scum I MIGHT be more organized
MIGHT
MIGHT
Natiko: I've been back and forth on Alexem and that's why I asked (I think I asked? Did I dream it? Thread too big) Sneeks to weigh in since we leveraged poor Alexem on purpose in Cluedo. I think some of those odd moments might just be his style. I'm pleased to see someone else point out some of his odder moments (like waiting for the No Lynch to gain traction, like he's more concerned with optics than action) and come out of it near where I am. It makes me feel a little better about not fully going one way or another on him. I think he's one that time will tell on.
Thing is, after the red check on Include, scum can waste their shots on the bus and leave the dirty and shadier shots for the townies instead, creating more of a mess if another townie gets killed. For example, if scum!Muffin got that first shot in, we'd have a lot of shots still in the game and no clear direction to shot. Considering scum is getting their ass kicked, it's probably advantageous for them for town to blind shot at this point. Of course, if they shot at Include it's better to miss, but it's ok if they hit it too since either way they can now get behind the "well I shot at scum that one time" excuse.
Although I agree that the players not using their shots is the bigger issue, yeah. As a replacement it's the fact that we even have those is pretty hard to understand... I dying to try it out!
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
No Lynch in the middle of this large game? What purpose would serve besides Scum?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Starting to believe Det. Monkey is not scum
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I'd look into ynnek or Lux more indepth If I could
Ugh, half of these should be "shoot" instead of "shot"...
I sware I how to tipe guys. I sware.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, he has just enough iffy moments to make you nervous, but not enough to take away from his general approach and progression feeling townie in my opinion.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Ynnek partially confirmed. Lux has a claim out.
Green checked.
Fandorin, fair point about the shots and town shooting blind. Especially with so many people missing claims and all around the ITA.
Geno in particular seems not fully engaged but I don’t really have reason to scum read him. Terra sure did though. Maybe will look there in the morning.
Geno in particular seems not fully engaged but I don’t really have reason to scum read him. Terra sure did though. Maybe will look there in the morning.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
If Natiko reads NZJubJub as scum then wouldn't Kawl be opposite of that? OR is this reverse psychology?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Ynnek and Stuart combined greenchecked Kawl.
Stuart was a secret admirer and checks people but the results were sent to Ynnek. Stuart's flip tells us the first part is true, we can speculate ynnek is likely town given they didn't have to saw all the admiser/heartthrob business.
and they helped red check Include which brought all that on.
He was Stuart's partner. Stuart pick a target to investigate and Ynnek would get the results that night without knowing who was targeted or who Stuart was.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
**That they didn't have to share all the admirer/heartthrob business.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
For now, I'm returning to my LP vote. We need to get rid of the dead weight.
Vote: Lone_prodigy
Vote: Lone_prodigy
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Up next, Stan
Overall, meh. I had a much more positive impression of Stan in my head than I did actually going back through the posts. Honestly a bit null. I really expected to come out town reading him based on my memory, but some of the hedging and posts that look helpful but really are filler.. yeah, meh. Null.
An interesting start to the game from Stan. I don't know if it's particularly alignment indicative for him though.
This feels like the play I expect from Stan. Brisk, gets to the point, and generally is always a bit behind on what is happening. I'm not sure I've ever played with a scum Stan to know any different though to be fair.
This bit feels off. He did a large about face just because..the vote he was on was losing? I wouldn't expect Stan to just jump into runaway vote for no real reason.
More good posts, makes valid points, but it technically doesn't really say anything regarding the game if that makes sense. It's more like general mafia strategy.
The above posts though are all really strong. He is prodding, focusing on issues he's seeing, and actively trying to determine the intention behind various actions. As a whole they probably give me the best impression of Stan out of everything.
This string of posts is kind of all over the place. He believes Include, doesn't believe, wants to leave it alone, sort of believes, then shoots at her. The punt idea is concerning, but when cushioned around how much he prods at her claim and generally is skeptical it doesn't ring as big of a concern as it would have by itself. I don't know though. If scum hinged their entire plan on trying to prove Include's innocence the next night I could see them floating the idea just as a test when the tide started going against them.
Overall, meh. I had a much more positive impression of Stan in my head than I did actually going back through the posts. Honestly a bit null. I really expected to come out town reading him based on my memory, but some of the hedging and posts that look helpful but really are filler.. yeah, meh. Null.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
I'd agree normally but I can't exactly remember what LP has done?
Are we lynching inactives?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Nomad Sparkster What inspired your sudden zeal for trying to figure out what's going on in the game?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
MOODSWING?
Seriously, Trying to take this large unwieldy game seriously and I keep blanking on important situations that have happened?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Also I literally want to be more active and NOT LYNCHED for being inactive
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
i had like all of this quoted hours ago but class started right before i could finish my responses and so it was nagging at the back of my mind the whole time, i blame all of you.
Im actually not that sure what to say on this point, The size and pace of this game has lead to me finding some real difficulty nailing down many significant scum reads, and several times now one is developing and then they just die anyway. That said both times i would have tried to come in before the day end that morning to try and have more say than none at all on the lynch, but then i just slept through both of them.
Im not sure what you mean here, like no shit i didnt have an alternative, i made it really clear that i did not know which way to lean on that discussion, and i didnt want to just pick either at random. I wanted more information, Include was refusing to indulge Nat had said all he could on the subject, and it looked like most of the thread was just gonna pick one to kill asap, if there was any other path to more info on the whole subject i couldnt see it.
I ended up trying to shoot Include anyway because i came around to the thinking that the only reason i was giving include the benefit of the doubt was my thinking that her obstinate attitude felt genuine wasnt really based on anything, i was just assuming that it couldnt be an act.
That and sleep deprived crankyness making me just what the whole ordeal to be over with.
Im actually not that sure what to say on this point, The size and pace of this game has lead to me finding some real difficulty nailing down many significant scum reads, and several times now one is developing and then they just die anyway. That said both times i would have tried to come in before the day end that morning to try and have more say than none at all on the lynch, but then i just slept through both of them.
Im not sure what you mean here, like no shit i didnt have an alternative, i made it really clear that i did not know which way to lean on that discussion, and i didnt want to just pick either at random. I wanted more information, Include was refusing to indulge Nat had said all he could on the subject, and it looked like most of the thread was just gonna pick one to kill asap, if there was any other path to more info on the whole subject i couldnt see it.
I ended up trying to shoot Include anyway because i came around to the thinking that the only reason i was giving include the benefit of the doubt was my thinking that her obstinate attitude felt genuine wasnt really based on anything, i was just assuming that it couldnt be an act.
That and sleep deprived crankyness making me just what the whole ordeal to be over with.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
oh fuck i missed half of the responses anyway.
eh whatever they were mostly shitposts.
eh whatever they were mostly shitposts.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Next, briefly Fireblend and mostly Brazil:
Overall, I'd generally say null based on all this. There just..isn't a lot. Getting into meta a bit though, I actually think this all points towards a town Brazil. I think a scum Brazil would try harder to establish himself in the game knowing that he has a small team that needs his help. Town Brazil that wasn't really following along and ends up in a game that starts steamrolling in town's favor.. I could easily see him just not stressing about it. Lean town.
WIFOM friendly banter due to their previous mentorship. Still, had to at least grab it due to Include.
A bit interesting in that as he was trying to look back to catch up on the game he still very quickly found a reason to lean in Zipped's favor, and then when it was clear everyone was unloading on Vere he joined in too. Once Vere survives the first round of volleys he doubles back to be a little more coy.
My only real interaction with Brazil this game. I got a good impression from it, albeit just a small one. He discusses the vote and reasoning, sees my viewpoint but ultimately doesn't agree. Scum probably push it harder at that point in most cases if they feel they have the start to a thread they can tug at.
Brazil making valid points on the boost, ones I tend to agree with as the boost up is a bigger jump than the nerf down. His discussion on why he chose faircure is a bit odd out of context, but in the context of an event that you should be trying to win makes sense.
Probably NAI since he subbed in late.
During the Include fake claim he remains level headed, but he doesn't really dive in too far as to why or push on Include much. Slight townie vibes.
Overall, I'd generally say null based on all this. There just..isn't a lot. Getting into meta a bit though, I actually think this all points towards a town Brazil. I think a scum Brazil would try harder to establish himself in the game knowing that he has a small team that needs his help. Town Brazil that wasn't really following along and ends up in a game that starts steamrolling in town's favor.. I could easily see him just not stressing about it. Lean town.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just not used to this side of my love. Was curious what you would say when asked directly.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
How many times have we hit scum compared to hitting townsfolks?
Bear
Rynam
Splinter
I forget who else D:
Bear
Rynam
Splinter
I forget who else D:
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Not much to refute here honestly.
For my odd about-face during the TD, it should be kept in mind that i was shitfaced at the time. i dont even know what i was thinking.
For the stuff on include refer to my response to monkey just above.
Besides that it all just fair criticisim, i make no claim that i have played well so far in this game.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
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oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Hey everyone! I'm sorry I haven't been very active at all the past few days. Will do my best to catch up over the last few pages to see what's up.
I'm actually surprised I haven't been lynched due to low activity :/
I'm actually surprised I haven't been lynched due to low activity :/
Sawneeks
little green dog
It feels much longer but it's ONLY Day 3
I was seriously considering shooting you in the last ITA phase of today. Please give me a reason not to.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Yoshi is one of my Smash mains ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm trying to find the results of N2, to see if my multi-mafia NK theory held up
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Just found the N2 results. Looks like I'm wrong about the mafia multi-kill theory :( Salva's Town Compulsory Hider role sounded hilarious, though.
This game is chaos. I have a fuggin physics degree, and this shit is harder to keep up with lol
This game is chaos. I have a fuggin physics degree, and this shit is harder to keep up with lol
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Muffin now, and his 89,000 posts of stream of conscience
Overall I'd lean scum. Not as strong of a scum read as JubJub though, but nothing precludes me from thinking both may in fact be scum.
Not a great start, but it's early so not entirely uncommon.
Pushes Rynam early and over Neck as well. Pushing scum early is good, but with three scum being in contention D1 it's a little more null.
This string of posts is concerning, primarily for trying to see if there's any footing to delay Grizzly's death. On the other hand by the time Muffin is toying with the idea that wagon has already ran away, and Grizzly's bonus utility as a godfather is blown. Not a great look, but not horrible.
Shutting down conversation isn't really ideal. I think there is a point to be made here, just could have been approached better.
Not a fan of how quick he backs down to avoid confrontation either. Meek and wishy washy, bad vibes.
Konohagakure Hiden Taijutsu Ōgi: Sennen Goroshi: Kawl
This string is probably the worst impression I got of Muffin during the whole iso. He says he'll let Kawl be as Zipped/Vere should be decided, then once ITA opens up shoots at Kawl anyways. Only once Vere has been shot at like a thousand times and lived does Muffin acknowledge a Vere flip would be good to see, but suddenly takes that after the flip and pushes it like a great read he made. Like he just really wants some of those townie points to rub off on him.
Begrudgingly drops the Kawl vote. NAI I suppose, town can be bitter they're wrong too.
This would be the best series of posts as he isn't toying with the idea of waiting and pushes for information to try and get a better read on the situation. He even calls out Include very early in the claim as well.I believe Natiko over Include.
HAKAI: Include
I read the emotion as genuine, but that could be the case regardless of alignment due to the misunderstanding. His reads feel a bit out of nowhere in some cases - they weren't items he had really pushed on previously which I find odd.
Overall I'd lean scum. Not as strong of a scum read as JubJub though, but nothing precludes me from thinking both may in fact be scum.
Sawneeks
little green dog
bless you for all this work, Nat.
you better not be scum. :|
What's making you feel so certain about rac this early?
oops
Vote: Blargonaut
i'm just gonna let the crab people kill you
shit, oreo is clear. no scum would main yoshi
you better not be scum. :|
What's making you feel so certain about rac this early?
oops
Vote: Blargonaut
i'm just gonna let the crab people kill you
shit, oreo is clear. no scum would main yoshi
I main Yoshi, too!
...But Luigi's my favorite Nintendo character.
TRY AGAIN
After you read through the thread.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
ugh, fine.
heres what i remember at least.
think i was just agreeing with this, its been discussed plenty by now tho so not much to add.
or a shitpost.
My remark about the NPC was in no way any kind of hint or breadcrumb to it. Just that i think it could be used to speak if the owner wanted it too, but i cant see why they ever would.
Was just going to agree with you about Include being good at imitating her town self, and that this is pretty much why i was so on the fence about her claims.
No freaking clue what i was gonna say to Kalor tho.
probably shitpost
Sawneeks
little green dog
Thank you Stan <3
You two are both officially on my Best Player list
You two are both officially on my Best Player list
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
DCPAT is up last for the night. Sorry for failing all. I'll try and find time tomorrow to do one or two more but with work that might be dicey.
Overall super null. I don't recall playing with DCPAT much, but I know I've spectated games he's been in. He just feels more reserved/in the background than I recall in previous games. Can anyone that played with him more chime in to share some more insight? I want to scum read his approach to the game, but there aren't a ton of actual points that I would normally scum read. I'd appreciate more thoughts to help work through my own if anyone has time and wants to ISO him.
This is all in an argument with Grizzly. It didn't really do anything for me, but it's one of only a few instances of DCPAT getting into an actual discussion.
This is right at day end, saying he's fine with a Grizzly lynch. He doesn't vote for anyone D1, but there is a gap prior to this where he doesn't post at all. Slightly bad feelings.
Just isn't really putting much out there or doing much.
Is poking at Rynam, feels confident Rynam is going to be got and doesn't seem bothered by it. Dunno, bit null on it.
I want to read into this and find something, but I think it's honestly probably a coincidence. Would scum say this right before shooting? Probably not. I could see a town vig doing so, but the reaction to two deaths feels a bit more muted in comparison for that.
More shade on Rynam, but most at this point felt he was scummy.
DCPAT is pretty early on Mazre compared to the wagon that built up at day end. NAI, it was an easy thing to read. Sorta good that it was fast, but if he's scum then of course it'd be fast.
This feels like a really muted response compared to most. Pings my radar as odd, bad vibes.
This is the biggest series of interactions he's had all game pretty much. He seems to be frustrated by what he feels is a misunderstanding. It feels genuine, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's alignment indicative given the circumstances. At least it's a laid out argument that goes from A to B to C.
More posts of being reserved.
Overall super null. I don't recall playing with DCPAT much, but I know I've spectated games he's been in. He just feels more reserved/in the background than I recall in previous games. Can anyone that played with him more chime in to share some more insight? I want to scum read his approach to the game, but there aren't a ton of actual points that I would normally scum read. I'd appreciate more thoughts to help work through my own if anyone has time and wants to ISO him.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
That's worth looking into both on who bailed and Extreme himself. I have a gut feeling that Apollo boosted Splinter which is why he was so gung ho to get in a duel, but I could see Extreme being scum regardless. The only thing I remember off the top of my head that felt good from him was his confusion feeling genuine and I would expect that more from town than scum with a bunch of buddies to help recap. I don't think he has many posts maybe I can ISO him and one or two others tomorrow while at work.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
Okie doke, I just read through some of the last few pages, and my most pressing thought is that ITA's look hella fun :( I'll be asleep during the next one, unfortunately.
I'd give Natiko a pretty easy pass for now for their call on Include.
Scum leans for now are @Kalor (for hom3's sins) and @CoolestSpot for their vote on Natiko that seems wishy washy.
I'd give Natiko a pretty easy pass for now for their call on Include.
Scum leans for now are @Kalor (for hom3's sins) and @CoolestSpot for their vote on Natiko that seems wishy washy.
oreomunsta
Crumbles under pressure *for now*
I'm about to turn in for the night, but will be more active in my free time so no more days-long gaps of inactivity from me :)...
Unless I get knocked out during the ITA. GL town :/
Unless I get knocked out during the ITA. GL town :/
Actually I do have one vote. It's Fandorin I think.
But yeah, people moved on. And despite me posting my own defense, no one seems to acknowledge it.
Anyway, I find it weird that Nomad is suddenly very active.
I'll start with Natiko's post on me since its the biggest and so will probably encompass a few of the others too.
I'll go back through the thread and answer each of the other posts directed at me.
I can't expect people to remember me given how little impact I've had on the games I've played, but I have and will always feel that a player should be allowed some leeway in order to give them the opportunity to play. So if anyone subs in or is having trouble finding the time to play then I want to give them the benefit of the doubt for a few days to give them the opportunity to get stuck in and start playing the game in earnest.
Responding to this because it'd be weird to just leave out one of the sections: Not much to say apart from that I didn't intend to end up in a tunnel, that was just how it played out.
You're right in that I'd typed that before Verelios' flip was posted. The reason I said "I don't think I'll be taking that shot" was that it was my first time being present for an ITA phase and I couldn't remember if flips came during or after the phase. I assumed after and was wrong.
Geno had come onto my radar as a result of his freaking out over Terraforce on day 1, I decided not to pursue that read as he was high-profile enough that he'd certainly be getting looked at by a number of other players. I felt safe shelving any reads on him to start limiting the number of players I was actively reading to try stop myself from being overwhelmed by the size of the game. Include's shot reminded me that I wasn't entirely without a scumread after Zipped turned out to be a bad read. Fair enough if you think I'm making that shit up though.
The reason is valid and I will not apologise for finding it. Also, there was no way I was going to stay up until 9 or 10 AM doing for Geno what I'd done for Zipped.
On day 2 my Zipped tunnel became a crutch for me, when that was kicked out from under me I fell back on an old Geno feeling and Include being in my Town pile. Having that fall through as well left me seriously disoriented.
I'll go back through the thread and answer each of the other posts directed at me.
Why do you think that could be the case?
Do you have any leads after Include's flip?
And can you give me some background on you? Which games have you played before?
Sawneeks
little green dog
Reads List 2.0 now featuring less players. If I missed you I apologize.
Unknowns: Briefs_cat, LP, Oreo
Town: Zipped, Ynnek, Zeke, Kawl, Lux?, Blade?, Faircure, Natiko
Likely Town: rac?, Stan, Monkey, Gorlak, Geno, CoolestSpot, Poltergust, Fandorin, ET?, Alexem
Really not sure: Melon, Nomad
Need to see more: Swamped, Hom3land/Kalor (kinda townread that kawl shot tho)
Scum: Blargonaut, DCPat, zubz
Likely Scum: Muffin, Neck, NZJubJub?, Brazil?
Some thoughts (mostly players I had to ISO and read over again plus some other stuff):
DCPat: Went and read all of his posts. Relatively dislike how he brought up that late votes for the No Lynch in the TD were potentially scum (1025) but never, ever follows up on this idea even though he brought it up again as a semi-defense in a post this Phase (4286). Also gives a very weird and convoluted reason to vote against Faircure, the person he gave the antidote to during the Event (4804) when he says he had zero reason to pick her over Geno, Kawl, or Apollo. It's odd, he's here but not really. Scummy.
NZJubJub: Enters in with a quick No Lynch on the TD and then scum reads Zipped for doing something similar (1133). Gives both Blade and Rynam the benefit of the doubt on D1 despite Scum Reading both for different actions (1141). Gives a vote on Zipped that says he is guilty of the same thing he accuses Zipped of but that 'doesn't matter' (1169). Gives a far more detailed explanation against Zipped that I actually like (2307). Threatens to shoot Zipped, backs down when Vere's flip becomes a reality and the NPC shows up, and then shoots Geno for some reason and only gives justification later on that he was a 'similar read that started his Zipped tunnel'. Will agree that his sudden backdown due to Vere's incoming flip is definitely odd as all hell.
Brazil: A+ Snark post (3803). Says a lot but also not much at the same time. Likes to go after the talkative Players (i.e. Monkey, Natiko, and RIP-Stuart) but not directly, he mostly throws snark at them and enough shade to cause an ice age. Forgot that Grizz was Godfather at one point. His thoughts seem relatively consistent but he isn't totally engaged and hasn't made many pushes, only light jabs. Light Scum.
zubz: Gave a Town Read to Monkey really...really early and rather confidently too. Was kinda dancing around making hard choices unless coerced into it (i.e. wasn't going to vote in the TD until Melon called him a hypocrite and then he some reason voted Splinter). He later said this was because he was afraid Melon would turn this around on him. He also mentioned at one point that the TD was a trap and it was why he didn't want to vote. Is VERY concerned for his own safety. Also mentioned last Phase how he would go after Melon post-Mazre but has since done nothing about that. Scum.
Alexem: Something here I want to note on Alexem is before Include's full claim (aka the Switch) he makes a statement saying that he is OK with Melon for now (4220). However, once Include flips as another Scum JOAT he makes a statement that comes across as he is now reconsidering Splinter being a possible bus target due to Scum having more JOATs (4670, 4706, 4742). I actually really Town-read this train of thought. That leap of logic doesn't seem easy for a Scummate to make knowing that they had multiple JOATs to start with. I will say his odd conclusion of pushing negative light primarily on Zeke instead of Melon is odd but I actually feel better about him. Would like to know why a harder push on Zeke over Melon though.
Extreme Tactician: Had a better reason when I ISOed him at the start but that was before I started typing out thoughts. Looking it over again I think I found myself hung up on the way he focused in on why Include switched herself with Natiko, something only one person before him mentioned and that was Gorlak. He even clarifies when Blarg asks him what he meant. Considering that Geno was even willing to kill Natiko first I find it weird that a Scummate would pick out that SPECIFIC piece of information so quickly. ET did not follow up much on that train of thought however, he simply pointed it out. Also personally think the ITA Boost theory by Alexem is good but not concrete, not something I'd lynch ET for anyway.
- I really want to implore people to keep an eye on BladeSymphony. I know I currently have him as a Town Read but that's only due to his odd claim. If he is telling the truth I don't see Scum letting a Doc live but if he makes it to the end of the game PLEASE consider that he may have Delay Killed Stuart seeing as Stan (i think?) tracked him to Stuart last Night and Stuart mysteriously died.
- Also, for semi-similar reasons, I gut dislike Lux. The claim out of nowhere seems genuine though and I'm willing to see if Scum takes care of him or not. Like Blade, please keep an eye on.
- Feel like a Melon flip would actually be extremely informational at this junction considering how many people are on her ass.
Unknowns: Briefs_cat, LP, Oreo
Town: Zipped, Ynnek, Zeke, Kawl, Lux?, Blade?, Faircure, Natiko
Likely Town: rac?, Stan, Monkey, Gorlak, Geno, CoolestSpot, Poltergust, Fandorin, ET?, Alexem
Really not sure: Melon, Nomad
Need to see more: Swamped, Hom3land/Kalor (kinda townread that kawl shot tho)
Scum: Blargonaut, DCPat, zubz
Likely Scum: Muffin, Neck, NZJubJub?, Brazil?
Some thoughts (mostly players I had to ISO and read over again plus some other stuff):
DCPat: Went and read all of his posts. Relatively dislike how he brought up that late votes for the No Lynch in the TD were potentially scum (1025) but never, ever follows up on this idea even though he brought it up again as a semi-defense in a post this Phase (4286). Also gives a very weird and convoluted reason to vote against Faircure, the person he gave the antidote to during the Event (4804) when he says he had zero reason to pick her over Geno, Kawl, or Apollo. It's odd, he's here but not really. Scummy.
NZJubJub: Enters in with a quick No Lynch on the TD and then scum reads Zipped for doing something similar (1133). Gives both Blade and Rynam the benefit of the doubt on D1 despite Scum Reading both for different actions (1141). Gives a vote on Zipped that says he is guilty of the same thing he accuses Zipped of but that 'doesn't matter' (1169). Gives a far more detailed explanation against Zipped that I actually like (2307). Threatens to shoot Zipped, backs down when Vere's flip becomes a reality and the NPC shows up, and then shoots Geno for some reason and only gives justification later on that he was a 'similar read that started his Zipped tunnel'. Will agree that his sudden backdown due to Vere's incoming flip is definitely odd as all hell.
Brazil: A+ Snark post (3803). Says a lot but also not much at the same time. Likes to go after the talkative Players (i.e. Monkey, Natiko, and RIP-Stuart) but not directly, he mostly throws snark at them and enough shade to cause an ice age. Forgot that Grizz was Godfather at one point. His thoughts seem relatively consistent but he isn't totally engaged and hasn't made many pushes, only light jabs. Light Scum.
zubz: Gave a Town Read to Monkey really...really early and rather confidently too. Was kinda dancing around making hard choices unless coerced into it (i.e. wasn't going to vote in the TD until Melon called him a hypocrite and then he some reason voted Splinter). He later said this was because he was afraid Melon would turn this around on him. He also mentioned at one point that the TD was a trap and it was why he didn't want to vote. Is VERY concerned for his own safety. Also mentioned last Phase how he would go after Melon post-Mazre but has since done nothing about that. Scum.
Alexem: Something here I want to note on Alexem is before Include's full claim (aka the Switch) he makes a statement saying that he is OK with Melon for now (4220). However, once Include flips as another Scum JOAT he makes a statement that comes across as he is now reconsidering Splinter being a possible bus target due to Scum having more JOATs (4670, 4706, 4742). I actually really Town-read this train of thought. That leap of logic doesn't seem easy for a Scummate to make knowing that they had multiple JOATs to start with. I will say his odd conclusion of pushing negative light primarily on Zeke instead of Melon is odd but I actually feel better about him. Would like to know why a harder push on Zeke over Melon though.
Extreme Tactician: Had a better reason when I ISOed him at the start but that was before I started typing out thoughts. Looking it over again I think I found myself hung up on the way he focused in on why Include switched herself with Natiko, something only one person before him mentioned and that was Gorlak. He even clarifies when Blarg asks him what he meant. Considering that Geno was even willing to kill Natiko first I find it weird that a Scummate would pick out that SPECIFIC piece of information so quickly. ET did not follow up much on that train of thought however, he simply pointed it out. Also personally think the ITA Boost theory by Alexem is good but not concrete, not something I'd lynch ET for anyway.
- I really want to implore people to keep an eye on BladeSymphony. I know I currently have him as a Town Read but that's only due to his odd claim. If he is telling the truth I don't see Scum letting a Doc live but if he makes it to the end of the game PLEASE consider that he may have Delay Killed Stuart seeing as Stan (i think?) tracked him to Stuart last Night and Stuart mysteriously died.
- Also, for semi-similar reasons, I gut dislike Lux. The claim out of nowhere seems genuine though and I'm willing to see if Scum takes care of him or not. Like Blade, please keep an eye on.
- Feel like a Melon flip would actually be extremely informational at this junction considering how many people are on her ass.
Looking at all the flips so far - we have 6 dead scum (Grizzly, Splinter, Rynam, Verelios, Apollo, Include) and 11 dead town. Crunching numbers, Sorian likes that "sweet spot" just between 20 and 25% scum ratio. 50 people makes 13 scum rounded up in worst case, me thinks. So we're looking for 7 (!) more people.
There's got to be scum noticeable during the major events TD, Grizzly, Vere and Include hunt. Btw Vere had 200+ posts, something should be in there.
We'll see what happens to Lone Stranger, it seems most are fine to leave it alone so far.
There's got to be scum noticeable during the major events TD, Grizzly, Vere and Include hunt. Btw Vere had 200+ posts, something should be in there.
We'll see what happens to Lone Stranger, it seems most are fine to leave it alone so far.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Gonna head to bed, if there is anyone folks want me to elaborate on just ask and I'll try to get to it before Day End.
For now I'm fine with staying on Blarg. He makes a lot of noise but little of it is helpful or constructive and is simply there. Still think his shot at Nomad yesterday was an easy out without not taking a shot and his brief thoughts here and there or not very consistent and feels like he simply shows up to make himself a presence. Basically he isn't interested in Scum hunting, only looking like he is playing.
g'night.
For now I'm fine with staying on Blarg. He makes a lot of noise but little of it is helpful or constructive and is simply there. Still think his shot at Nomad yesterday was an easy out without not taking a shot and his brief thoughts here and there or not very consistent and feels like he simply shows up to make himself a presence. Basically he isn't interested in Scum hunting, only looking like he is playing.
g'night.
Sawneeks
little green dog
eeeeeeeh fuck it, i can stay up a bit more. give me a second to make a post and you got it, after that i'm headed to bed though.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Won't lie, much of my Muffin read is also feels since ISOing him 100% would likely take an hour+.
A brief look (i.e. pages 1 -4 of his 8 page ISO) I do know of these:
- He voted for Mazre because Polter acknowledged that Scum may have turned someone into a 100% ITA shooter which was enough to make him vote there (3762) despite being relatively outside that talk other than a small comment (3757). Went for Mazre out of the others because....?
- Real general/lazy Reads list from this Phase. Probably Town reads Geno and Melon, suspicious people are successful shooters who hit Scum. Also LP. (3959).
- Kinda gives Nat a pass for being Includes target for some reason because it can't be Scum v Scum (4442).
- Monkey calls it out but Muffin is fairly insistent that between Nat and Include there is Scum and no way it would be Town v Town since it's unlikely (4584).
- Calls out the fact that him saying 'people who shot Scum being people I'm suspicious of is a genuine reads list' (4721) despite that fact that he never actually follows these people which are: Zeke, Terraforce, and Extreme Tactician.
- Shot Kawl (2894) despite unvoting him shortly before (2727) when Vere was a popular choice. Also never follows up on Kawl despite being strong enough to, y'know, shoot him outside of going back to the vote (3488) for no reason and then dropping it very soon after when the Poison/Antidote Event ended (3735). Didn't really push Kawl much here despite the actions.
Basically I find him much more quiet and reserved than normal. Could be the game size but he did this in HvV where he was Neutral; preferred to stay in the back and not make any waves if he didn't have to. Be agreeable. Didn't do much follow-up there either and just asked some questions/made some comments to appear active.
Find it interesting you, Gorlak, ask this considering you went at him earlier this Phase pretty hard (3948).
Well, he seemed to suddenly become active before the ITA, despite claiming he had no idea what it was. He says he's a vanilla townie, then shoots Monkey because he thought Monkey was being scummy.
And leads? Nothing big. I'm isoing some of the new guys posts, though nothing significant popped up for me.
Background on me? What kind? My playstyle? My prefered playstyle on first day is making random comments to stir up discussion. That's face to face though. As you can see in this thread, I just sucked first day. I also like isolating people who just suddenly jump in after a long absence.
I don't actually remember the last game I played. Console Wars, I think? My comp broke during that time so I could barely play.
Exactly that's why I'm interested in this. I called him out because I found him to not be contributing to the game despite having a lot of posts. I've played with him a few times and know that he can do more, but that he also likes to stay on the sidelines as neutral or scum. His response seemed to be disproportionately hostile, like he wanted me to go away.
As you can see I also asked Natiko about his read on Muffin. To which Muffin comes in and again attacks the source of critical thoughts.
I've also skimmed him and I'd say about 50% of his posts are reactionary statements (during ITA and other). As you said his reads are lacking and he's definitely not hunting scum.
Hm... were hom3land and xbro being scumread? I mean, it's just kinda weird that they both got replaced at the same time period.
@Sawneeks I'm also interested in why you townread faircure, but maybe some older posts of yours will deliver the answer.
All in all I again have a problem with a certain part of this readlist, but here I don't want to go into detail yet. If you remember last time I also said that there was something up with your list and it was about your read on me specifically
In an earlier look at Grizzly votes you find my vote weird: #1777 - yet later you town read me amongst other things because of the Grizzly situation:
All in all I again have a problem with a certain part of this readlist, but here I don't want to go into detail yet. If you remember last time I also said that there was something up with your list and it was about your read on me specifically
In an earlier look at Grizzly votes you find my vote weird: #1777 - yet later you town read me amongst other things because of the Grizzly situation: