Costume Party |OT| The Mafia Mash

[Banana]

This isn't really making you look any less strangely defensive. I'll leave interpretation of that comment up to you.

It's also making you like you're completely trying to deflect any attention away from yourself which quite frankly is looking very defensive.

 

[Dracula]

It's also making you like you're completely trying to deflect any attention away from yourself which quite frankly is looking very defensive.

I don't understand what I'd be deflecting, it was a joke post. My sporadic activity? It's forum mafia, people leave the computer to do things for a few hours.

 

[Cereal Killer]

It's also making you like you're completely trying to deflect any attention away from yourself which quite frankly is looking very defensive.

+1

It was an elaborate version of “no u”

 

[Barack Obama]

VOTE: Prisoner Anybody who is the second vote on somebody is suspect. Other than that not much to gather so far. Why would that be suspect? If I'm reading the vote tool right that would meant Rey, Banana and Dracula are on your suspect list hmmmmmm. I find it great that so many are willing to put themselves out there and vote! It's the only way to maintain a working democracy. VOTE

 

[Barack Obama]

Just checking, are 4 scum the standard number for games this size? Just gauging whether or not Dracula slipped or made a safe assumption re scum numbers

 

[Kool-Aid Man]

Ooh, punch.

Anybody want some?

Who called me?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Whilst Day one activity is NAI

@Daenerys Targaryen psychic vision is almost worth investgating after day one

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Just checking, are 4 scum the standard number for games this size? Just gauging whether or not Dracula slipped or made a safe assumption re scum numbers

That would be the standard number. Four evils in a game of seventeen has a long history.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Who called me?

Finally some drinks.

 

[Kool-Aid Man]

Time to get going then.

 

[Kool-Aid Man]

after reading everything i came to the conclusion that i am extremely unsure who i will vote for.
I won't be able to push anyone uter the bus now. give me some more time.

 

[Clown]

Who called me?

Master Drink, a pleasure to gulp you down.

This is a strange early game. You all are trying to make me lose my job with your clowning about early jokes, fluff and sporadic activity on hour five. I mean I wouldn't take great offence should that come to pass, your fine clown-work already might've dug up some fine nuggets here!

Dracula dropping the accent is a bigger question mark than his vote is. Spider-Man's vote was a obvious joke vote, it takes some courage for a scummie to join something like that. No courage would be needed though, were they in cahoots. Spider-Man doubling down on voting out easy fluff targets is bad.

People calling out the people calling out Spider-Man for not reading the rules, that be some sleepy work there friends.

Dany was self-aware there with Cereal Killer, what does that mean? Perhaps a tiny town thing on her part? The action of asking the questions is whatever, some people do that as scummies too but I get where folks like CK and Witch are coming from with their more stellar ratings. And then Witch turns the rating upside down, well done!

 

[Witch]

So if folks think Dracula disappeared after the first sign of pressure to consult with scummates, why didn’t he do that before voting? And why has his behavior remained completely unchanged after supposedly consulting with them after the vote?

 

[Clown]

This clown thinks Prisoner and Rey are grasping at straws or at least over-reading the word vision in regards to Dany.

 

[Prisoner]

unvote
voting out the post leader D1 is usually not a good idea.

I would like to hear more from Barney. What do you think of Dracula? What about Daeny?
Zombie: Any results from your investigation into Dracula?

 

[Spider-Man]

Only one scum left for you to find

Wanted to see who jumped on this. Think this is everyone?

The way I took it, Dracula just made the assumption that there are 4 scum in the game, reasonable given the 18 players.

Did Natiko tell us how many scum there are? I didn't see that.

I called it out before but ok.

Bob Ross really wants you to know he pointed out the "scum slip" first

Um you know something you want to tell us about?

:O

It's day 1, it could just be a guess, not a zlip.

Could read as defense.

This is a hell of a bad post though. Further investigation is required.

This comment seems a little over the top, like trying to blow Drac's post out of proportion. Not sure I like these vibes.

I think out of all these responses I like Bob Ross and Zombie's the least.

 

[Spider-Man]

^Barney's post, I didn't make a comment on Rey or CK, but my post above is unclear so wanted to clarify

 

[Spider-Man]

This clown thinks Prisoner and Rey are grasping at straws or at least over-reading the word vision in regards to Dany.

Also a good point. Maybe they don't know that Dany in GoT gets visions sometimes?

 

[Clown]

Also a good point. Maybe they don't know that Dany in GoT gets visions sometimes?

This I think is the case.

Prisoner's vote can easily be excused, perhaps it was a introductory joke for one. Rey on the other hand has them hints of coming from the SalvaPot scum-school of being so scummy that it hurts to look at.

 

[Clown]

VOTE: Prisoner Why would that be suspect? If I'm reading the vote tool right that would meant Rey, Banana and Dracula are on your suspect list hmmmmmm. I find it great that so many are willing to put themselves out there and vote! It's the only way to maintain a working democracy. VOTE

Mr. President, what exactly is wrong about that comment - why is is terrible enough for you to desire the death of the detained?

 

[Bob Ross]

Bob Ross really wants you to know he pointed out the "scum slip" first

Nah I don't give a shit about town points on day 1. But if Rey says CK pointed out first then he will remember as such and others might to. CK might've jumped into that after I mentioned it for easy town points if Dracula came out scum later and I don't want credit to be given to them.

 

[Baby]

I think Dracula's post about there being 4 scum is fine honestly. People are always speculating about that Day 1, and it's a pretty reasonable assumption. I definitely wouldn't vote for Dracula over that right now at least

 

[Baby]

Anybody who is the second vote on somebody is suspect. Other than that not much to gather so far.

Can you expand on this? Why the second vote in particular? Why not third or fourth? Or the joke votes that stick around till end of Day 1?

It feels like you're just setting up potential votes in the future with this line of thinking

 

[Barack Obama]

Mr. President, what exactly is wrong about that comment - why is is terrible enough for you to desire the death of the detained?

I just found the idea offputting. Being the second vote on someone is hardly bandwagoning or anything like that

 

[Banana]

This I think is the case.

Prisoner's vote can easily be excused, perhaps it was a introductory joke for one. Rey on the other hand has them hints of coming from the SalvaPot scum-school of being so scummy that it hurts to look at.

Yeah yes, the ole act so scummy they would never believe you are actually scummy school. I do get that feeling a little bit from both Rey and Dany, I don't think both are bad but I would be willing to place a moderately sized bet that one of them is.

 

[Prisoner]

Can you expand on this? Why the second vote in particular? Why not third or fourth? Or the joke votes that stick around till end of Day 1?

It feels like you're just setting up potential votes in the future with this line of thinking

It feels like you let other people come up with arguments and then latch onto that.
This is only valid as long as there aren't that many votes and there is a lot of uncertainty, such as the start of D1. End of Day is a whole other story.

 

[Prisoner]

It feels like you let other people come up with arguments and then latch onto that.
This is only valid as long as there aren't that many votes and there is a lot of uncertainty, such as the start of D1. End of Day is a whole other story.

"you" as in "the one who is the second vote", not you specifically.

 

[Cereal Killer]

On the number of scum, it depends on power roles and neutrals since the calculation on 20% comes to 3.6. Percentage could be lower or higher too

 

[Cinderella]

Whoops didn’t realise things had started so quickly. I think Dany’s initial concern about Cereal Killer makes them look more town to me, because there was some gamesolving effort there. They were also a little snappy afterwards, and I don’t think scum would want to draw that much attention to themselves just yet.

 

[Cereal Killer]

So if folks think Dracula disappeared after the first sign of pressure to consult with scummates, why didn’t he do that before voting? And why has his behavior remained completely unchanged after supposedly consulting with them after the vote?

When people are throwing around joke votes it doesn’t really matter yet. Why ask for advice? Anyway let Dracula twist for a while and see what he does.

 

[Banana]

Whoops didn’t realise things had started so quickly. I think Dany’s initial concern about Cereal Killer makes them look more town to me, because there was some gamesolving effort there. They were also a little snappy afterwards, and I don’t think scum would want to draw that much attention to themselves just yet.

Wait, it's "gamesolving" to throw out that Cereal Killer = Serial Killer? That's like lowest effort possible to make that connection/joke, that's not actually trying to do any solving.

 

[Jack Sparrow]

Dracula’s post regarding the mafia count seemed like a joke post to me. But @Zombie what did you mean by “further investigation”? What would you go off of on day 1 for this “investigation”?

 

[Witch]

When people are throwing around joke votes it doesn’t really matter yet. Why ask for advice? Anyway let Dracula twist for a while and see what he does.

My point is more any assumption is as good as the last. We might as well be reading tea leaves.

I’m an expert on tea leaves, if you want to try it.

 

[Witch]

I am most suspicious of the Banana rn. For all the posts he’s made, I’m getting absolutely nothing from him in terms of a read. He’s choosing his words very carefully.

 

[Cinderella]

Wait, it's "gamesolving" to throw out that Cereal Killer = Serial Killer? That's like lowest effort possible to make that connection/joke, that's not actually trying to do any solving.

In a D1 context? Yes I believe it is. What do you think about how they behaved later?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Dracula has at least been sharing some of his thoughts with us, the same cannot be said about Bob Ross who has only given a few comments despite being present and following the progress.

Nah I don't give a shit about town points on day 1. But if Rey says CK pointed out first then he will remember as such and others might to. CK might've jumped into that after I mentioned it for easy town points if Dracula came out scum later and I don't want credit to be given to them.

 

[Clown]

I just found the idea offputting. Being the second vote on someone is hardly bandwagoning or anything like that

I was just wondering if you tried to see it through Prisoner's eyes, apparently not. I tried thinking about what the logic could've been there, but I didn't see anything. For one, I have trouble seeing how one could clump up all the three second votes on three different targets, the circumstances around each of the votes were different and thus the conclusion to clump them all up seems odd.

 

[Clown]

And thus, Prisoner, I'd like you to expand on this:

Anybody who is the second vote on somebody is suspect. Other than that not much to gather so far.

What's the idea here? Can the same idea be used against all the three current second voters? Is there a difference, and if there is, what is it, between the second Cereal Killer vote and the second Dracula vote?

 

[Clown]

Yeah yes, the ole act so scummy they would never believe you are actually scummy school. I do get that feeling a little bit from both Rey and Dany, I don't think both are bad but I would be willing to place a moderately sized bet that one of them is.

We agree on Rey, but I don't get the same vibes about Dany. Don't suppose you have a post or two of hers to quote which would illustrate why you feel like this about her?

 

[Clown]

In a D1 context? Yes I believe it is. What do you think about how they behaved later?

There was an opportunity here to say that Dany did more than just present the novel idea of Serial Killer = Cereal Killer, because there was more than just that. A little more, mainly in the form of pressure - but more than the 1+1 level of an obvious idea. It is curious that you missed that opportunity - surface reading is a foul crime after all.

 

[Barney]

unvote
voting out the post leader D1 is usually not a good idea.

I would like to hear more from Barney. What do you think of Dracula? What about Daeny?
Zombie: Any results from your investigation into Dracula?

I'm coasting through this day, there is so much digging in sandboxes here that I can't be bothered. I liked kool-aid and mr president, I dislike Prisoner so far, bur I don't have actual arguments right now, just feelings.

Also Natiko should use this avatar:

 

[Cereal Killer]

I'm coasting through this day, there is so much digging in sandboxes here that I can't be bothered. I liked kool-aid and mr president, I dislike Prisoner so far, bur I don't have actual arguments right now, just feelings.

Also Natiko should use this avatar:
View attachment 101

Yes this is perfect.

By the way I don't know how much I'll be here today because I'm pretty busy here. Tonight should be okay

 

[Natiko]

New avatar who dis

 

[Barney]

New avatar who dis

There we go.

 

[Banana]

In a D1 context? Yes I believe it is. What do you think about how they behaved later?

So after going back through the thread (man, I am really missing the Who Replied setting), I am even more confused by your previous comment that "Dany is concerned about Cereal" comment. Here is the basic jist of that "conversation":

VOTE: Cereal Killer

...Can't be that obvious can it?

No.

Spidey throws out the vote and Dany just says its not that obvious. There is a little suspicion thrown at Spidey about just throwing out the vote like that but that's pretty much the extent of it. Were you getting your scum chat conversations mixed up perhaps?

As to your question to me, I have said that both Dany and Rey are on my list of possibles in that I don't think both are scum but I would not be surprised at all if one of them are. I would lean a little more towards Rey in that respect but not to an overwhelming degree.

 

[Banana]

We agree on Rey, but I don't get the same vibes about Dany. Don't suppose you have a post or two of hers to quote which would illustrate why you feel like this about her?

It's more of a gut feel than having any strong post evidence at this point. I think it was this post that first made me go hmm:

That’s when it’s too late to take anything seriously because our voices will be silenced by the night. One of us will probably perish over night too.

At that point, as I mentioned about it, we were only about 5 hours in the game and then all of the sudden we need to take things super seriously because uh oh one of us is going to die in the night (which unless we have a lucky doc then yes that's obviously going to happen). It felt like she was just trying to buy some serious townie cred by trying to be the first one to wrangle things so early. That and I don't love the visions talk but that is probably just flavor junk with nothing behind it.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

At that point, as I mentioned about it, we were only about 5 hours in the game and then all of the sudden we need to take things super seriously because uh oh one of us is going to die in the night (which unless we have a lucky doc then yes that's obviously going to happen). It felt like she was just trying to buy some serious townie cred by trying to be the first one to wrangle things so early. That and I don't love the visions talk but that is probably just flavor junk with nothing behind it.

Apologies, I got that a little wrong. If we vote out the wrong person because we didn’t take it seriously because only five hours is a short amount of time then we will be down two good players, not just one.

 

[Minecraft Steve]

It's more of a gut feel than having any strong post evidence at this point. I think it was this post that first made me go hmm:



At that point, as I mentioned about it, we were only about 5 hours in the game and then all of the sudden we need to take things super seriously because uh oh one of us is going to die in the night (which unless we have a lucky doc then yes that's obviously going to happen). It felt like she was just trying to buy some serious townie cred by trying to be the first one to wrangle things so early. That and I don't love the visions talk but that is probably just flavor junk with nothing behind it.

Have you met us? If we aren’t shitposting day 1, it’s deathly serious.

I also don’t like the visions talk, same with the missing accent just flavour having fun day 1 for now.

I’m trying to catch up, but it looks like prisoner did show up right?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

 

[Cinderella]

So after going back through the thread (man, I am really missing the Who Replied setting), I am even more confused by your previous comment that "Dany is concerned about Cereal" comment. Here is the basic jist of that "conversation":

Spidey throws out the vote and Dany just says its not that obvious. There is a little suspicion thrown at Spidey about just throwing out the vote like that but that's pretty much the extent of it. Were you getting your scum chat conversations mixed up perhaps?

As to your question to me, I have said that both Dany and Rey are on my list of possibles in that I don't think both are scum but I would not be surprised at all if one of them are. I would lean a little more towards Rey in that respect but not to an overwhelming degree.

Whoops, for some reason I thought it was Dany who made that observation. So it’s actually Spidey who IMO was making some attempt at gamesolving, and they’re the ones who I feel slightly better about.

 

[Dracula]

I'm coasting through this day, there is so much digging in sandboxes here that I can't be bothered. I liked kool-aid and mr president, I dislike Prisoner so far, bur I don't have actual arguments right now, just feelings.

Also Natiko should use this avatar:
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Which posts made you feel this way on all three of them?

 

[Banana]

Have you met us? If we aren’t shitposting day 1, it’s deathly serious.

First 24 hours should be memes and shitposts, I mean what else is there to do Day 1?

Apologies, I got that a little wrong. If we vote out the wrong person because we didn’t take it seriously because only five hours is a short amount of time then we will be down two good players, not just one.

It just read as trying to buy town cred really early in the game. Percentages say are we are likely going to lunch a townie today and then lose at least 1 (depending on if there is an SK or any additional killing abilities) during the night phase so I don't get all of this concern about losing people now.

 

[Dracula]

Whoops didn’t realise things had started so quickly. I think Dany’s initial concern about Cereal Killer makes them look more town to me, because there was some gamesolving effort there. They were also a little snappy afterwards, and I don’t think scum would want to draw that much attention to themselves just yet.

What concern did Daenerys have about Cereal Killer? I don't see a single thing.

How can I read ISO? When I try to use the voting tool it tries to go to a thread on Era that doesn't exist.

 

[Dracula]

Dracula dropping the accent is a bigger question mark than his vote is.

That's interesting, why?

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I would still go for Bob Ross, he seems to be following the thread, but not commenting as if he doesn't want the attention.

It just read as trying to buy town cred really early in the game. Percentages say are we are likely going to lunch a townie today and then lose at least 1 (depending on if there is an SK or any additional killing abilities) during the night phase so I don't get all of this concern about losing people now.

I don't care about percentages. They say we lose almost every time because we rely on the evils making mistakes.

 

[Dracula]

It feels like you let other people come up with arguments and then latch onto that.
This is only valid as long as there aren't that many votes and there is a lot of uncertainty, such as the start of D1. End of Day is a whole other story.

Obviously I'm going to necessarily disagree, when there's nothing but a bunch of 1 vote wagons nothing gets accomplished.

 

[Dracula]

Yeah yes, the ole act so scummy they would never believe you are actually scummy school. I do get that feeling a little bit from both Rey and Dany, I don't think both are bad but I would be willing to place a moderately sized bet that one of them is.

I'm really not getting these vibes from Daenerys that other people are, I just see a bunch of questions and them outing a town lean they had based purely on a few posts D1, and they're far from the only person in the game that's outed leans on people they feel good about. Am I missing something? Why do you get these vibes from Daenerys?

I'm more ambivalent on Rey, I can't remember a single post they've done today and I'm trying to figure out an easier way to iso them than just looking through the whole thread with ctrl + f.

 

[Dracula]

Mind melding with Clown all over the place, good vibes.

 

[Banana]

I would still go for Bob Ross, he seems to be following the thread, but not commenting as if he doesn't want the attention.

I don't care about percentages. They say we lose almost every time because we rely on the evils making mistakes.

Yes scum screwing up does make it easier but it's not solely down to just that. The town can look at behavior patterns, voting records and results, and night actions to put together a picture of what is going on. All of that happens as the game progresses and really none of it is available for examination on Day 1. You trying to act all serious so early and so concerned about a few town dying in the first day and night is really not a good look.

 

[Dracula]

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

Atm I'm thinking Banana, don't understand the conclusions he's come to thus far even though we're reading the same thread.

I also echo your sentiments on Bob Ross' iso being a big load of nothing aside from that jump on the post I made which everybody thought was a slip, but I'll give him some time.

 

[Dracula]

Yes scum screwing up does make it easier but it's not solely down to just that. The town can look at behavior patterns, voting records and results, and night actions to put together a picture of what is going on. All of that happens as the game progresses and really none of it is available for examination on Day 1. You trying to act all serious so early and so concerned about a few town dying in the first day and night is really not a good look.

I don't understand how someone wanting to go with lunching their biggest suspect is nagl

 

[Witch]

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

Banana. I mentioned it already, not getting a read there. Bob Ross would be second, but only because I think saying “day 1 is pointless is” putting too big a target on your back. Surprised more folks didn’t jump on that honestly.

I'm more ambivalent on Rey, I can't remember a single post they've done today and I'm trying to figure out an easier way to iso them than just looking through the whole thread with ctrl + f.

really? Rey has been pretty erratic. He has made a strong effort to stand out.

 

[Dracula]

really? Rey has been pretty erratic. He has made a strong effort to stand out.

Yeah, I can't really recall aside from a few posts I thought were just fluff on page 1. After I make some coffee I'm going to reread the thread in its entirety since I can't search their posts.

 

[Witch]

I put a quotation mark in the wrong place and it’s driving me crazy

 

[Clown]

That's interesting, why?

Your vote was a joke responding to a joke. That has a very good chance of meaning absolutely nothing. You dropping the z was you submitting to pressure and that is always noteworthy. Town-noteworthy or scum-noteworthy, the jury is still out on that.

 

[Dracula]

So Rey's iso is mostly fluffly with a fixation on Daenerys that I find odd, but the oddest fixations and tunnels usually come from townies. Especially given how it's manifest with them ascribing too much meaning to this "vision" stuff, scum would probably want to seem more logical.

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

I think Banana is sticking his head out a bit much for an evil, but I don’t have a clear picture of him. He seems to have some genuine frustration behind his posts which I believe an evil would try to dampen or control more.
@Banana I would like to talk more about the people in this game instead of the mechanics with you. How do you view those who haven’t been discussed much so far?

 

[Witch]

Your vote was a joke responding to a joke. That has a very good chance of meaning absolutely nothing. You dropping the z was you submitting to pressure and that is always noteworthy. Town-noteworthy or scum-noteworthy, the jury is still out on that.

In his defense, I would lose my shit trying to type like that. Idk I’m just a witch and vampires are weird

 

[Dracula]

Your vote was a joke responding to a joke. That has a very good chance of meaning absolutely nothing. You dropping the z was you submitting to pressure and that is always noteworthy. Town-noteworthy or scum-noteworthy, the jury is still out on that.

I like your thought process trying to read into my subconscious but if you'll take my word for it I kinda just got tired of typing that way

 

[Bob Ross]

I'm not going to comment on every single little thing on D1...come on people. I came in, saw something that was interesting and commented on it, I don't have time to be on the PC 24/7.

 

[Dracula]

I think Banana is sticking his head out a bit much for an evil, but I don’t have a clear picture of him. He seems to have some genuine frustration behind his posts which I believe an evil would try to dampen or control more.
@Banana I would like to talk more about the people in this game instead of the mechanics with you. How do you view those who haven’t been discussed much so far?

Do you have any other scum leans aside from Bob?

 

[Witch]

I think Banana is sticking his head out a bit much for an evil, but I don’t have a clear picture of him. He seems to have some genuine frustration behind his posts which I believe an evil would try to dampen or control more.
@Banana I would like to talk more about the people in this game instead of the mechanics with you. How do you view those who haven’t been discussed much so far?

To me, it’s less about how much Banana is saying than what he is saying. That is, just enough to look like he’s helping.

 

[Rey]

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

Good question

Either @Dracula or @Bob Ross

 

[Clown]

It's more of a gut feel than having any strong post evidence at this point. I think it was this post that first made me go hmm:

At that point, as I mentioned about it, we were only about 5 hours in the game and then all of the sudden we need to take things super seriously because uh oh one of us is going to die in the night (which unless we have a lucky doc then yes that's obviously going to happen). It felt like she was just trying to buy some serious townie cred by trying to be the first one to wrangle things so early. That and I don't love the visions talk but that is probably just flavor junk with nothing behind it.

I don't agree. I am not fully sure if the post you quoted was fully serious or not, but I don't think it even matters. If it is not serious, what is there to care about hour three banter? If it is serious, it is but one of many - she started showing hints of seriousness in her third post and thus the perceived pressure to switch to seriousness never happened where you think it happened.

 

[Minecraft Steve]

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

Are you asking for a full protect, investigate kill? Or just a “who would you shoot day 1”?

Because I would want to investigate cereal killer, but not kill the cereal killer.

Protect dany, she is putting in good work.

I’m not sure who I would kill though. Maybe @Prisoner? @Clown you were able to interact with prisoner what do you think?

 

[Clown]

In his defense, I would lose my shit trying to type like that. Idk I’m just a witch and vampires are weird

I like your thought process trying to read into my subconscious but if you'll take my word for it I kinda just got tired of typing that way

This and certain other townie considerations are the reason why I am comfortable with calling the z-drop notable for now. Not more than that, to either direction.

 

[Minecraft Steve]

I would also put @Banana in town read category, sticking their peel out there a bit for scum at least day 1.

 

[Cinderella]

What concern did Daenerys have about Cereal Killer? I don't see a single thing.

How can I read ISO? When I try to use the voting tool it tries to go to a thread on Era that doesn't exist.

As I replied earlier, I mistakenly assumed Dany indicated Cereal Killer could be a scum role, when it actuality it was Spidey who said so

 

[Daenerys Targaryen]

Do you have any other scum leans aside from Bob?

Not really right now.

 

[Cereal Killer]

Kill Zombie, why not
Inv Drac or or Barack (shit it even rhymes)
Protect the witch or the banana, not sure which

 

[Dracula]

As I replied earlier, I mistakenly assumed Dany indicated Cereal Killer could be a scum role, when it actuality it was Spidey who said so

My b, missed that

 

[Rey]

UNVOTE[/unvote]

 

[Clown]

@Clown you were able to interact with prisoner what do you think?

As in would this clown support the death penalty for the incarcerated? For the record, Prisoner has not responded to my query about the infamous second voters though the response to Baby is not instilling me with confidence.

I would not oppose it yet I'd personally hold the sword arm high for now. There is a chance this turning into a bitch eating crackers -scenario with many people piling on one. I'd like to hear a bit more on the matter above and generally just anything else he has to offer.

 

[Rey]

I meant


Unvote

 

[Clown]

I would also put @Banana in town read category, sticking their peel out there a bit for scum at least day 1.

Protect the witch or the banana, not sure which

Can you put the Banana read into more words, or even better, into things he has done that makes him town in your eyes? I personally find myself close to the camp Witch has set up so I'd like to hear why you stand where you are standing right now.

 

[Rey]

Can you put the Banana read into more words, or even better, into things he has done that makes him town in your eyes? I personally find myself close to the camp Witch has set up so I'd like to hear why you stand where you are standing right now.

I will second this line of question besides me having suspicious about @Bob Ross and @Dracula I need to pad out my reads

 

[Witch]

Kill Zombie, why not
Inv Drac or or Barack (shit it even rhymes)

We shouldn't kill Zombie because of low post counts. The mods will deal with that and we'll get someone who posts more frequently to read into.

I agree with your investigation choices.

 

[Witch]

To be clear, I think there's a difference between low posting and posting below the minimum to stay in the game. We should treat the two differently.

 

[Cereal Killer]

I wouldn't vote a low poster just to vote a low poster, but given a sword right now, sure I would hit one.

Banana isn't afraid to argue back and on day one at least I think that is probably more likely town. People who ask questions or engage but then melt away are more likely to be sus in my mind.

 

[Bob Ross]

If I had a sword I'd kill Dracula just to remove the gut feeling I have.

 

[Witch]

Banana isn't afraid to argue back and on day one at least I think that is probably more likely town. People who ask questions or engage but then melt away are more likely to be sus in my mind.

I strongly disagree that arguing back is alignment indicative. I've been in that train of thinking before and had it blow up in my face.

That said, rereading Banana's posts, he's more in the fray than I initially gave him credit for. Though, I'm his main detractor and he hasn't engaged with me at all.

 

[Cereal Killer]

I'm honestly upset right now that everyone is a bad stock image of a bad costume but Dany changed hers to a real picture. Do you think you are better than us

 

[Cereal Killer]

I strongly disagree that arguing back is alignment indicative. I've been in that train of thinking before and had it blow up in my face.

That said, rereading Banana's posts, he's more in the fray than I initially gave him credit for. Though, I'm his main detractor and he hasn't engaged with me at all.

Meh, it's not something I would use as a rubric after day one but for now I think it's a better reason than some

 

[Prisoner]

Sundays are always difficult for me, but I'll try to comment for a bit.

As in would this clown support the death penalty for the incarcerated? For the record, Prisoner has not responded to my query about the infamous second voters though the response to Baby is not instilling me with confidence.

I would not oppose it yet I'd personally hold the sword arm high for now. There is a chance this turning into a bitch eating crackers -scenario with many people piling on one. I'd like to hear a bit more on the matter above and generally just anything else he has to offer.

There isn't really more to it than what I wrote in my response to Baby. To me second voters always feel like they are just waiting for someone else to make an argument, so they can gauge what is acceptable and what isn't. And as I said, this is mostly an issue at the start of D1 and gives me a rough idea on who to keep an eye on for end of day. In the absence of more info, this is as good a starting point as any.

 

[Baby]

Sundays are always difficult for me, but I'll try to comment for a bit.


There isn't really more to it than what I wrote in my response to Baby. To me second voters always feel like they are just waiting for someone else to make an argument, so they can gauge what is acceptable and what isn't. And as I said, this is mostly an issue at the start of D1 and gives me a rough idea on who to keep an eye on for end of day. In the absence of more info, this is as good a starting point as any.

I don't really disagree, just wanted to hear you voice it a bit. So, right now the people that are 2nd voters are Banana and Dracula. How do you feel about those two overall especially considering those votes don't feel overly serious?

 

[Baby]

Also, since we're coming up 24 hours I feel like I should ask.

@Zombie

Any opinions on anyone in the game at this point? Anyone you don't like the look of or anyone you do?

 

[Prisoner]

And thus, Prisoner, I'd like you to expand on this:



What's the idea here? Can the same idea be used against all the three current second voters? Is there a difference, and if there is, what is it, between the second Cereal Killer vote and the second Dracula vote?

On reread, I feel worst about reys vote, because it really just repeats what I had already said. Bananas vote is at least declared as a joke vote and not a direct response to the first vote, as is Draculas vote to an extent.

Obviously I'm going to necessarily disagree, when there's nothing but a bunch of 1 vote wagons nothing gets accomplished.

Well, obviously there needs to be a second vote eventually. But if the argument from the second vote are the same as for the first vote, I get skeptical.

Your vote was a joke responding to a joke. That has a very good chance of meaning absolutely nothing. You dropping the z was you submitting to pressure and that is always noteworthy. Town-noteworthy or scum-noteworthy, the jury is still out on that.

I'm really not a fan of this quote. You're basically saying you're going to construct this argument depending on what you need at the moment.

Question for anyone reading this: If you had a sword who would you kill right now?

Probably Clown. His insistence that Dracula dropping the z's is noteworthy and leaving it open which way he'll interpret it is not a good look in my opinion.

vote: Clown

 

[Banana]

I don't understand how someone wanting to go with lunching their biggest suspect is nagl

People should definitely be voting for their biggest suspect, that was never a discussion point. My point was that Dany seemed to be trying awfully hard for early town cred with her "let's all be serious now" takes so early in the day. It just reads as someone trying to hard to show that they are town and not scum.

@Banana I would like to talk more about the people in this game instead of the mechanics with you. How do you view those who haven’t been discussed much so far?

I wasn't really talking about mechanics that much but that's fine. Going in order based off the player list in the first post:

Baby - Digging into Prisoner's 2nd vote thing but hasn't really contributed much. Need to see more.
Barack Obama - Not many posts at the time of writing and not really putting much out there with their few posts. Need to see more.
Barney - No real contributions, most of the posts seem to be aimed at Dracula's early accent talk.
Bob Ross - I am disappoint in no happy tree references so far. Did seem aggressive in pointing out Dracula's possible slip but as I was also going hmmm at that I am probably bias in thinking that they are likely in the clear for now.
Cereal Killer|CK - Fairly comfortable town read at this point in time, maybe because most of our thoughts seem to line up and that's causing some bias on my end (because I am obviously right on my no/low information gut feelings).
Cinderella - Didn't seem to be paying that close of attention with the whole Spidey and Dany mix up. Just someone going through the motions or a scum that doesn't care what they really put out?
Clown - Asking questions and getting a good town feel, wish they would put more of their ideas out there however.
Daenerys Targaryen - Feels to be angling for too much town cred too early.
Dracula - My initial vote on them was just a joke due to the accent talk. Have had no reason to change it due to their scum split post and then trying to deflect attention elsewhere when called out about it.
Jack Sparrow - First slightly suspicious of Dracula on an early early read but then comes in to defend after Dracula takes some heat. Seems too obvious of a team play but keeping an eye on it.
Kool-Aid Man - Comes in late, says nothing jumps out and provides no discussion points. On the possibles list.
Minecraft Steve - Not really putting themselves out there, seems to be piggybacking a bit, but reads mostly town to me.
Prisoner - Really seems to be hung up on the 2nd vote thing, seems to be a weird angle to take but not something that immediate jumps out as scum.
Rey - I'm subscribing to the Salva school of pretending to be a scum so hard that of course you would never think of them as actually scum.
Spider-Man - I'm not fussed with throwing out the first vote but seem to come out very strongly against the Dracula backlash. Scum saving scum or just trying to prevent an early pile on to gather more i
Witch - Prying and looking if anything is behind what anyone is saying, feels town for now.
Zombie - Only 1 post at the time of writing this, need to see more.

My early sure to be 75% wrong scum team based on a 4 person scum team:

Dracula
Rey or Dany (probably not both and probably in that order)
Spidey
Kool-Aid

 

[Baby]

Probably Clown. His insistence that Dracula dropping the z's is noteworthy and leaving it open which way he'll interpret it is not a good look in my opinion.

vote: Clown

Yeah, that definitely felt weird to me. I think a lot of people are just getting into their character, like Dany and the visions and it doesn't feel like it's worth holding over someone's head that they didn't stick to an accent. It feels like a weird setup for later

 

[Clown]

There isn't really more to it than what I wrote in my response to Baby. To me second voters always feel like they are just waiting for someone else to make an argument, so they can gauge what is acceptable and what isn't. And as I said, this is mostly an issue at the start of D1 and gives me a rough idea on who to keep an eye on for end of day. In the absence of more info, this is as good a starting point as any.

I don't get what merit does this generalization have. Dracula's vote was a joke, responding to a joke. Banana's was him being against RP. If you want to accuse people of sheeping ideas, the one idea that was being sheeped was yours - by Rey. The cases are not similar.

But now I am falling to the technicalities and shall stop. I just hope you do something with this line of thought before day end.

Probably Clown. His insistence that Dracula dropping the z's is noteworthy and leaving it open which way he'll interpret it is not a good look in my opinion.

No conclusion needs to be achieved for some things to be called noteworthy. This is one of those things - something that could go either way with more data and time. Pressure was applied and a player was bent, or the player got bored. Which one, I do not know yet.