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Natiko

Natiko

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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dracula (3 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0
Banana - 0
Zombie - 0
Bob Ross - 0

Bob Ross (2 votes)
Daenerys Targaryen - 0
Spider-Man - 0

Zombie (2 votes)
Baby - 0
Jack Sparrow - 0

Witch (1 votes)
Kool-Aid Man - 0

Spider-Man (1 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0

Cereal Killer (1 votes)
Spider-Man - 0 0
Dracula - 0

Banana (1 votes)
Witch - 0

Prisoner (1 votes)
Barack Obama - 0

Clown (1 votes)
Prisoner - 0

Daenerys Targaryen (0 votes)
Prisoner - 0 0
Rey - 0 0

Barack Obama (0 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0

Not voting: Cinderella, Rey, Minecraft Steve, Clown, Barney

Post Counts:
Daenerys Targaryen: 59 Cereal Killer: 43 Witch: 37 Dracula: 36 Rey: 33 Bob Ross: 31 Clown: 29 Banana: 27 Barney: 20 Zombie: 17 Spider-Man: 16 Prisoner: 14 Jack Sparrow: 13 Baby: 13 Minecraft Steve: 12 Cinderella: 11 Barack Obama: 9 Kool-Aid Man: 8

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Minecraft Steve

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I don't really want to vote Dracula today, I think the accent and scum guessing from earlier was either shitposting (accent) or metagaming (scum team # guessing)

I can get behind a prisoner vote, his posts have just not convinced me today.

Zombie is in contention with Witch just putting Zombie over Bob Ross. I could vote zombie today, but I want to put this down where my head is currently.

Vote:Prisoner

I don't really want to vote banana today either, baring Banana coming out and saying that they are scum I want to save a better read until tomorrow. That being said if it came down to Banana vs Dracula in a tie and it was all up to me, I would probably vote banana over Dracula.
 
Barack Obama

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Clown said:
It sure seems so. Both of these had you quoting me. Did you forget your previous response?
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gosh, I thought I was replying to different people each time :/

By the way, are most of yall going to be around close to end of day? I'm about to sleep soon

Remember your civic duty everyone!
 
Daenerys Targaryen

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Minecraft Steve said:
@Clown, I liked how @Banana responded In posts246 and 252. Just read as town for me based on those. It’s day 1, I’m probably wrong but for the day, baring banana coming out and saying they are scum, I’m ok with not voting them/calling them more town than others
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One of Steve's most detailed reads is on Banana whom he town reads and these are the two posts he liked the most where Banana responds to me:
Banana said:
It's more of a gut feel than having any strong post evidence at this point. I think it was this post that first made me go hmm:



At that point, as I mentioned about it, we were only about 5 hours in the game and then all of the sudden we need to take things super seriously because uh oh one of us is going to die in the night (which unless we have a lucky doc then yes that's obviously going to happen). It felt like she was just trying to buy some serious townie cred by trying to be the first one to wrangle things so early. That and I don't love the visions talk but that is probably just flavor junk with nothing behind it.
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Banana said:
First 24 hours should be memes and shitposts, I mean what else is there to do Day 1?



It just read as trying to buy town cred really early in the game. Percentages say are we are likely going to lunch a townie today and then lose at least 1 (depending on if there is an SK or any additional killing abilities) during the night phase so I don't get all of this concern about losing people now.
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In both Banana explains why he thinks my behavior has looked scummy. A little bit later in post 275 Steve responds a little confused to my question (I was just asking who you wanted to kill, basically who your top scum is to get the ball running) with this:
Minecraft Steve said:
Are you asking for a full protect, investigate kill? Or just a “who would you shoot day 1”?

Because I would want to investigate cereal killer, but not kill the cereal killer.

Protect dany, she is putting in good work.

I’m not sure who I would kill though. Maybe @Prisoner? @Clown you were able to interact with prisoner what do you think?
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Which is whatever apart from the fact he is kinda putting me as top town.
He can read Banana as town for scum reading me without agreeing, that's not super strange, but it reads as a bit fluffy here.
 
Clown

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All right, I have time now.

I am at best a wannabe statistician, but surely three games is too little to conclude anything Dany. The playstyle bits that people have said so far ring true to me, it's just luck of the draw if the game gets the spam posters as scum or town. It could be said that the three example games shown show this variance - the middle game has 20% scum in it but scum made only 7% of the total posts, whereas in the 3rd game the numbers were 20% and 28%.

Whereas where I am standing right now, I don't get the Dracula thing and I'm considering Bob, Zombie and Cinderella for that reason. I think this is where I end up after thinking this through a bit. As I am finishing this up, Rey joins in too, me no like.

Banana is half and half. Most of the act is good, the conclusions I agree less on. This I'll read again to see if the conclusions are malicious. Could be the dark horse candidate.

Jack's formality, I feel that he tells more than does, is a slight concern to me. I'd like to see him take more of a active role if possible.

Prisoner stopped after the last bunch of posts he made. Everything there ran around the one point he made and I don't really feel it, much like many of the other things around here. @Prisoner where do you stand now in terms of the vote? Keeping me or jumping perhaps to Dracula or what?

Rey is too scummy to be scum so he is scum. A long shot in other words - a feeling, would not act on it yet.

Town guesses would be Dany and Witch. I don't harbor ill will toward CK but I can't read her yet either. Steve could be a town guess too I think. I think the rest (checks player list) are unknowns to me. Oh yeah, Dracula, lol. Don't want him out but I wouldn't rate him higher than a null capable of showing promise.
 
Banana

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Baby said:
@Banana

Your vote on Dracula seems like an early joke vote. Are you keeping it there?
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It was initially a joke vote but I didn't like his reaction to the scum count "slip" (even though the slip itself is at most a small blip on my radar) which is why I haven't changed it. I need to go back through and see if I can pick out what people are seeing in Zombie and Bob but as of right now no one has jumped out at me enough to switch from Drac.
 
Daenerys Targaryen

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Clown said:
I am at best a wannabe statistician, but surely three games is too little to conclude anything Dany. The playstyle bits that people have said so far ring true to me, it's just luck of the draw if the game gets the spam posters as scum or town. It could be said that the three example games shown show this variance - the middle game has 20% scum in it but scum made only 7% of the total posts, whereas in the 3rd game the numbers were 20% and 28%.
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He asked for some proof and that's the best I could make in a short amount of time. It's hard to prove anything with three games, but there's a trend *shrug*
 
Cereal Killer

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Daenerys Targaryen said:
Has anything in particular made you think this way about Dracula?
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I already said but I'll say it again. I think Drac held up okay under pressure and the fact that a bunch of people piled on after he started to get some heat looks more sus than Drac himself does here. I dont have a town read there right now but it's not a scum read either and I don't wnat to kill him. Zombie, who was reactive and defensive, looks worse.
 
Prisoner

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Clown said:
Prisoner stopped after the last bunch of posts he made. Everything there ran around the one point he made and I don't really feel it, much like many of the other things around here. @Prisoner where do you stand now in terms of the vote? Keeping me or jumping perhaps to Dracula or what?
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I think I'll keep my vote there for the moment. Are you going to vote today, or just throwing shade around to see what sticks?
 
Daenerys Targaryen

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Cereal Killer said:
I already said but I'll say it again. I think Drac held up okay under pressure and the fact that a bunch of people piled on after he started to get some heat looks more sus than Drac himself does here. I dont have a town read there right now but it's not a scum read either and I don't wnat to kill him. Zombie, who was reactive and defensive, looks worse.
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I think Dracula is a decent player so I wouldn't go too far in clearing him for holding up. I don't think he's a good D1 lynch however since he's contributed quite a lot and I don't see that "slip" as being much of anything.
 
Clown

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Prisoner said:
I think I'll keep my vote there for the moment. Are you going to vote today, or just throwing shade around to see what sticks?
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What shade. You have this unreasonable desire to misinterpret my actions and be overtly aggro for no reason, I don't get it.

I'm reading things again, will vote when I have some sort of a conclusion in my head.
 
Prisoner

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I don't really feel a Dracula lunch today.
I'm more concerned with Clown, Rey and to an extent Bob.

I'm also not a huge fan of Barney filling the post requirement and then disappearing. It doesn't give us anything to work with in later days
 
Witch

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Prisoner said:
I don't really feel a Dracula lunch today.
I'm more concerned with Clown, Rey and to an extent Bob.

I'm also not a huge fan of Barney filling the post requirement and then disappearing. It doesn't give us anything to work with in later days
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I don't think Clown is going to happen today, or Rey for that matter. You already stated your feelings on Drac and Bob. Is Zombie someone you can get behind for today or is that a no-go for you?
 
Jack Sparrow

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Clown said:
Why Zombie over Bob? You were considering them both.
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I chose to go with Zombie over Bobert because the posts Bob had on the last page seemed fine and I agreed with his assement on DT’s stats about high posting players. Zombie has been quiet as well today and couple that with my previous thoughts on them.
 
Dracula

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Alright, hey there. My bad about the sporadic activity, finally have a few hours to myself.

Witch said:
@Dracula I'd like to hear your thoughts on the top vote candidates. I have to imagine you'll want to save yourself here.
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Between Zombie, Bob, and Prisoner I'm leaning towards Zombie being on the town end. His posts look the most insightful and it looks like he's more genuine in trying to ascertain people's intentions. I agree with the vast majority of the insights he's dropped, and melding like that is always a good sign. The progression towards his vote on me today looks town-natural, I'm not surprised that his wagon has been the one to gain traction the easiest. I think the wagons being on him and I at the moment is town playing right into scum's hands.

My personal vote?

VOTE: Bob Ross

It looks like Bob has spent the day using my quote unquote "slip" as cover fire to distract the thread from the fact that he's having serious problems engaging with the game. When situations like this happen early on in the game, it's common for scum to latch on like flies to fly paper, and I think that all of the attention on me fits that bill. For Bob having 31 posts, there's very little to show from it, and fmpov it's pretty much all surface level engagement. (if I could iso his posts I could do a deep dive and double check this but I'm still unaware how to do this on OM.) There was also a ton of heat on Bob early but votes never came from it which strikes me as some soft bussing going on somewhere.

Prisoner, I'm more ambivalent on. A lot of their comments don't necessarily strike me as town POV so I wouldn't be sad if they died either.

Also unrelated to the top three wagons I'm pretty sure Banana would be the second scum that has been opportunistically on me today. All of their analyses of my posts strike me as completely bad faith.

Witch said:
As for Rey, I’m leaning town with him. That might not be what you’re looking to hear, but I think his posting is too erratic to be scum. Town as a whole have made enough of a fuss about him that scum would probably keep him alive so we have to eventually lynch him, though. That’s not a bridge I’m ready to cross yet.
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Echo this sentiment. Rey's analysis has been mostly kind of out-of-the-box in a way that'd be hard to fake for scum. Rey finding Zombie as a townread also makes me lean towards trusting them more. Probably my strongest townread.

Bob Ross said:
You know what I'm also up to lynch DT if others also want to.
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This honestly seems like it came out of nowhere in the phase? Why? Can you make a succinct case?
 
Natiko

Natiko

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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dracula (4 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0
Banana - 0
Zombie - 0
Bob Ross - 0
Rey - 0

Zombie (3 votes)
Baby - 0
Jack Sparrow - 0
Witch - 0

Prisoner (2 votes)
Barack Obama - 0
Minecraft Steve - 0

Bob Ross (2 votes)
Daenerys Targaryen - 0 0
Spider-Man - 0
Dracula - 0

Witch (1 votes)
Kool-Aid Man - 0

Spider-Man (1 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0

Minecraft Steve (1 votes)
Daenerys Targaryen - 0

Clown (1 votes)
Prisoner - 0

Daenerys Targaryen (0 votes)
Prisoner - 0 0
Rey - 0 0

Banana (0 votes)
Witch - 0 0

Cereal Killer (0 votes)
Spider-Man - 0 0
Dracula - 0 0

Barack Obama (0 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0

Not voting: Cinderella, Clown, Barney

Post Counts:
Daenerys Targaryen: 64 Cereal Killer: 46 Witch: 41 Dracula: 37 Rey: 34 Clown: 32 Bob Ross: 31 Banana: 28 Barney: 20 Zombie: 17 Prisoner: 16 Spider-Man: 16 Jack Sparrow: 14 Baby: 14 Minecraft Steve: 13 Cinderella: 11 Barack Obama: 10 Kool-Aid Man: 9

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Dracula

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Daenerys Targaryen said:
Here are the post counts of D1 from a few games in the same season (Doggy, Nightmare and Greed) with the scum highlighted and there are more scum in the lower part than the higher part. If we add them all we get 1/3 + 1/2 + 3/2 for a total of 5 in the top half and 7 in the bottom half.

This is quite a small sample, but notice how much higher the top poster is in all of these who is not scum.
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You're right that it's quite a small sample, it's almost meaningless. I don't understand the point in discussing this. A lot more evidence is going to come to light than postcount on future phases.
 
Dracula

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Witch said:
Reads for the Reads God

[She/Her] Baby - Giving some pretty middle of the road thoughts. I don’t have enough of a feeling where they are at; whether non-committing scum or unsure town.
[He/Him] Banana - My top scum at the moment. Engaging just enough with folks to buy town cred, pushing folks, but I can’t shake the feeling that there’s not much behind his words. Also, despite me accusing him a few times throughout the day, only on this morning decides to test the waters for a lynch on me just because one other player has voted for me.
[-] Barack Obama - null read
[He/Him] Barney - I don’t like the attitude Barney has but I don’t think that indicates anything further than a person who doesn’t want to mess around with D1 proceedings. Not a positive in my book, by any means.
[He/Him] Bob Ross - I cant really pin Bob Ross. His logic doesn’t seem to make much sense. He thinks that D1 is a waste of time, that many players are wasting their time discussing certain things, but is basically putting a vote down on the same type of behavior. Very suspicious, but since he is posting more now, I’m mixed on whether he is scum or aggravated and mistaken town.
[She/Her] Cereal Killer|CK - Very helpful and pushing good rhetoric. Would be a beneficial player to keep around, even at running the risk of her being scum.
[He/Him] Cinderella - middle of the road. I got nothing else to say.
[He/Him] Clown - trying to be helpful for the most part. I’m not sure about much of his thinking but it’s at least healthy conversation.
[She/Her] Daenerys Targaryen - A little all over the place, but also seems to just be trying to help town. The Dracula stuff at the start of day may have hurt more than it helped, but we’ve all been there.
[He/Him] Dracula - middle of the road. I don’t have much to say about him.
[He/Him] Jack Sparrow - null read
[He/Him] Kool-Aid Man - null read. He has a vote on me, but I just shrug because I don’t know where it’s coming from.
[He/Him] Minecraft Steve - null read
[He/Him] Prisoner - null read
[He/Him] Rey - Erratic and not helping a whole lot. Given the history of games here, I’m pretty sure that points to town.
[-] Spider-Man - I don’t have much of a read on them, but trying to get the ball rolling helped create a lot of discussion. I respect that they took that risk.
[He/Him] Witch - idk pretty cool guy I guess
[He/Him] Zombie - I’m very leery of the way Zombie has been acting. He seems to be sniping posts addressing him, rather than propagating any meaningful conversation of his own.
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I find it interesting that you've only outed a single hard townread in this list. Aside from the suspects that you're pushing, nearly every read that would lean the opposite way is wishy washy. "I'm mixed on whether he's scum or town", "May be trying to help town but their activity at start of day may have hurt more than it helped", "Would be beneficial to keep around for their helpful rhetoric, even if they are scum." What? Can you out three players you feel are likely to be town at this juncture?
 
Dracula

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Jack Sparrow said:
Those stats don’t hold much weight with me right now. But imma drop my vote here
Zombie.
I am choosing to vote for Zombie for their defensiveness and hyperbolic comments.
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I didn't get the impression that Zombie was being defensive or hyperbolic. Can you quote some posts?
 
Witch

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Dracula said:
Between Zombie, Bob, and Prisoner I'm leaning towards Zombie being on the town end. His posts look the most insightful and it looks like he's more genuine in trying to ascertain people's intentions. I agree with the vast majority of the insights he's dropped, and melding like that is always a good sign. The progression towards his vote on me today looks town-natural, I'm not surprised that his wagon has been the one to gain traction the easiest. I think the wagons being on him and I at the moment is town playing right into scum's hands.

My personal vote?

VOTE: Bob Ross

It looks like Bob has spent the day using my quote unquote "slip" as cover fire to distract the thread from the fact that he's having serious problems engaging with the game. When situations like this happen early on in the game, it's common for scum to latch on like flies to fly paper, and I think that all of the attention on me fits that bill. For Bob having 31 posts, there's very little to show from it, and fmpov it's pretty much all surface level engagement. (if I could iso his posts I could do a deep dive and double check this but I'm still unaware how to do this on OM.) There was also a ton of heat on Bob early but votes never came from it which strikes me as some soft bussing going on somewhere.

Prisoner, I'm more ambivalent on. A lot of their comments don't necessarily strike me as town POV so I wouldn't be sad if they died either.

Also unrelated to the top three wagons I'm pretty sure Banana would be the second scum that has been opportunistically on me today. All of their analyses of my posts strike me as completely bad faith.
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I can see where you’re coming from on Bob v Zombie, even if I don’t necessarily agree.

unsurprisingly, I’m very much on board with lynching Banana, but that’s just three of us that would entertain that and I think I’m the only one with him as a first choice.
 
Dracula

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Witch said:
I can see where you’re coming from on Bob v Zombie, even if I don’t necessarily agree.

unsurprisingly, I’m very much on board with lynching Banana, but that’s just three of us that would entertain that and I think I’m the only one with him as a first choice.
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There's a bit over an hour left, teamwork makes dreamwork.

But Bob is a likelier person to get lynched and I think there are decent chances there too so I'm not necessarily fussed.
 
Bob Ross

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Dracula said:
Bob, that stings my soul.

Seriously though, why would you think this? You haven't really interacted with any of my input aside from the slip you're pushing.
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Oh no don't get me wrong, I'm commenting on the fact that she did detective work to find out who you really are which is like, why would town bother especially on D1?
 
Dracula

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Bob Ross said:
Oh no don't get me wrong, I'm commenting on the fact that she did detective work to find out who you really are which is like, why would town bother especially on D1?
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There are a lot of things that some people do d1 that others wouldn't, it can be quite baffling. Just chalk it up to a playstyle difference, I don't really think it's AI.
 
Witch

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Dracula said:
I find it interesting that you've only outed a single hard townread in this list. Aside from the suspects that you're pushing, nearly every read that would lean the opposite way is wishy washy. "I'm mixed on whether he's scum or town", "May be trying to help town but their activity at start of day may have hurt more than it helped", "Would be beneficial to keep around for their helpful rhetoric, even if they are scum." What? Can you out three players you feel are likely to be town at this juncture?
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I feel Rey and Daenerys are likely town, despite their behavior hurting town; both things can be true. I also think CK is likely town, but I don’t want to let my guard down with her. I think she knows what she’s doing enough to be able to fake a town playstyle really well.

I have a lot of doubts and that comes through in how I describe things (I.e. meandering).
 
Dracula

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Witch said:
I feel Rey and Daenerys are likely town, despite their behavior hurting town; both things can be true. I also think CK is likely town, but I don’t want to let my guard down with her. I think she knows what she’s doing enough to be able to fake a town playstyle really well.

I have a lot of doubts and that comes through in how I describe things (I.e. meandering).
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If you had to make a definitive statement on Cereal Killer's alignment, what would you say she is?

You interested in trying this out?

VOTE: Banana
 
Cereal Killer

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Bob Ross said:
"I think Dracula is a decent player", no way you can come to that conclusion from a few D1 posts, she did detective work to figure out who he is.
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I call bullshit. From Drac's post about thinking on scum distribution you can get a sense of experience if nothing else and since he doesn't seem like a screwup, that's not a big jump to decent player. You're just reading assumptions in and then stating them as fact.
 
Bob Ross

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Cereal Killer said:
I call bullshit. From Drac's post about thinking on scum distribution you can get a sense of experience if nothing else and since he doesn't seem like a screwup, that's not a big jump to decent player. You're just reading assumptions in and then stating them as fact.
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You definitely can't make jumps to anything from that.
 
Spider-Man

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Daenerys Targaryen said:
That took a lot of time, sorry.
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Here are the post counts of D1 from a few games in the same season (Doggy, Nightmare and Greed) with the scum highlighted and there are more scum in the lower part than the higher part. If we add them all we get 1/3 + 1/2 + 3/2 for a total of 5 in the top half and 7 in the bottom half.

This is quite a small sample, but notice how much higher the top poster is in all of these who is not scum.
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... Wow, good on you for going the extra mile!

I do have to wonder though, why take the effort to put this together? This discussion didn't really help with scum hunting, so I guess you were trying to impress or appease Bob Ross. But you are scum reading him so why? He is pushing against you...

Overall I feel OK about Dany but this Bob/Dany interaction is just strange.
 
Jack Sparrow

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Zombie said:
Oh didn't realize we were starting. I'm seeing the usual day 1 of joke votes followed by people taking those joke votes seriously is going full steam.



This is a hell of a bad post though. Further investigation is required.
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Zombie said:
Other option was to what? Not post in thread?
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Zombie said:
Okay. Next time I'll just not post and get removed from game.
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Dracula said:
I didn't get the impression that Zombie was being defensive or hyperbolic. Can you quote some posts?
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Maybe I shouldn’t have said hyperbolic but I think the first quote is a bit extreme and I read the two posts after that as defensive.
 
Cereal Killer

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I'm trying to figure out how Bob Ross can spin up a whole fanfic about people investigating identities but I can say "this person doesn't seem like a screwup so they seem decent" and the thing I did is what doesn't make sense lol
 
Dracula

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Jack Sparrow said:
Maybe I shouldn’t have said hyperbolic but I think the first quote is a bit extreme and I read the two posts after that as defensive.
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I kinda think all the activity accusations on d1 are a bit lame so I can sympathize with his reaction there, I wouldn't necessarily call it defensive in a bad way. I pretty much react the same way when people accuse me of going "mist form" after I leave following a string of posts, even though I'm posting substanstive content when I get some time in here.
 
Spider-Man

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Banana said:
I will say, I'm not there yet but Witch is definitely moving up my list of possible scum. I mean look at this:



But when he went to cast his votes he just defaulted to the the same people as suspects with bad reasons and then just went with the "sorry, I won't have time to contribute much today" route to slink back into the shadows.
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Huh looks like banana scum reads witch after witch votes for Banana, just went back to check. Plain old omgus, persecution complex, or scum revenge? I'd feel better able banana if he had engaged witch more... I'll go bavk and read witch more now
 
Dracula

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Cereal Killer said:
I'm trying to figure out how Bob Ross can spin up a whole fanfic about people investigating identities but I can say "this person doesn't seem like a screwup so they seem decent" and the thing I did is what doesn't make sense lol
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I don't have much to add to this discussion, but just so you know you ain't crazy, I'm not following either
 
Bob Ross

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Cereal Killer said:
But you can jump to assuming investigation of who someone is? lolk
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I mean it's either one or the other, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Either she claimed he was a decent player out of thin air, because to know something like that you have to have at least a few games with the person, or she did detective work.
 
Cereal Killer

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Bob Ross said:
I mean it's either one or the other, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Either she claimed he was a decent player out of thin air, because to know something like that you have to have at least a few games with the person, or she did detective work.
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I wonder what you're going to do with this then lol:

I think most of the people here are decent players.
 
Spider-Man

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I think I'm OK with my Bob vote, although I love that he's more engaged now. However, it feels like he's mostly just playing defensive.

But what's really giving me pause is that so many people are pushing against him, but he still only has one vote (me). Most recently Jack Sparrow, which doesn't give me good vibes as it reads like he is piling on to the reasoning of some strong/active players like CK and Dracula.
 
Clown

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Jack Sparrow said:
I chose to go with Zombie over Bobert because the posts Bob had on the last page seemed fine and I agreed with his assement on DT’s stats about high posting players. Zombie has been quiet as well today and couple that with my previous thoughts on them.
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The meta talk? I thought that was whatever for the most part.

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This is hard to put into words, ugh, normal games aren't this hard. Sorry for taking so much time.

Cinderella case ends up a shoe short without the vote and the reasoning for it, would love to see where he goes so I can then criticize that oh wait that is one of those jokes that gets you killed damn it.

Zombie is the most genuine one I think of the four (Banana, Cindy, Zommie, Bob). I don't agree with his idea and his read of things but I feel his play is honest to himself. He shares a position in the timeline with Banana - both take on the slip around the same time - and I feel Banana is the opportunistic one of the two in the end.

Bob went from uncooperative to discussing off-topic things. Zombie and CK had to prod him for a vote. He complains about the uselessness of everything D1 but believes in the strength of the slip. One part SalvaPot-school of scum, more parts not being in the game and making it up with quantity. 2nd target for today.

Coming back to Banana, I'd call at least one thing malicious (shading Witch back with the "slink back to shadows"), his whole play could be telegraphed cause at times it gives those outsider vibes of clarity and then there are some things I don't agree on (Dany and Dracula).

VOTE: Banana
 
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Bob Ross said:
Whatever, if I'm the only one seeing it ok I guess.
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Nope I saw it too and it raised an eyebrow. It's possible the Witch was just inferring that about Dracula based on at the time 35ish D1 posts, but its also possible that they learned of each other's real identities elsewhere. The way Witch and Dracula are acting seems way too obvious for both of them to be teammates but damn if it doesn't look funny.
 
Spider-Man

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Bob kinda feels like a lone wolf right now, but I think that NAI because it's D1 and if he is corned scum it would be wise for his scummates to cut their losses.
 
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Bob Ross said:
I mean it's either one or the other, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Either she claimed he was a decent player out of thin air, because to know something like that you have to have at least a few games with the person, or she did detective work.
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Detective work, or are you insinuating she would know this from scum chat? Do you think scum would share their real names in the scum chat? Genuinely curious.
 
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So I looked through the thread and I really can't get there on Bob like other people were trying to. Maybe its confirmation bias because what he is saying is mirroring many of my same thoughts but I just don't see it at this point in time.
 
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Spider-Man said:
Detective work, or are you insinuating she would know this from scum chat? Do you think scum would share their real names in the scum chat? Genuinely curious.
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Maybe they know it from scum chat, maybe they did detective work because scum would do that in order to know who to kill at night. Either way town doesn't benefit from doing it and it's not like Dracula is obvious like someone else we have.
 
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Just noticed my top 3 scum are all on the Dracula vote lol

that’s an interesting coincidence
 
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Witch said:
Just noticed my top 3 scum are all on the Dracula vote lol

that’s an interesting coincidence
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Dracula said:
Gigantic brain take, this person is on to something
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Yes, scum always group up together with a D1 vote and not just spread their votes around. I really thought Rey was playing the Salva type game but I'm starting to come around to thinking that Witch has a Salva PhD.
 
Baby

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There's definitely at least 1 scum, possibly 2, on that Dracula train soooo I'm pretty comfy where I am
 
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Banana said:
Yes, scum always group up together with a D1 vote and not just spread their votes around. I really thought Rey was playing the Salva type game but I'm starting to come around to thinking that Witch has a Salva PhD.
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The way in which you ordered those quotes is strange, that was not what my post was in response to. Keep misconstruing what I'm claiming like that.
 
Witch

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Banana said:
Yes, scum always group up together with a D1 vote and not just spread their votes around. I really thought Rey was playing the Salva type game but I'm starting to come around to thinking that Witch has a Salva PhD.
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may I direct you to:

Baby said:
There's definitely at least 1 scum, possibly 2, on that Dracula train soooo I'm pretty comfy where I am
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Dracula said:
The way in which you ordered those quotes is strange, that was not what my post was in response to. Keep misconstruing what I'm claiming like that.
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You're right, I meant to separate both your's and Witch's comments, got distracted with a work call and forgot. Scum don't care what wagon develops just as long as it isn't them. Maybe in a regular game they might want to push it towards a more known commodity but in a costume game they ain't really going to care (at least this early).
 
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Banana said:
You're right, I meant to separate both your's and Witch's comments, got distracted with a work call and forgot. Scum don't care what wagon develops just as long as it isn't them. Maybe in a regular game they might want to push it towards a more known commodity but in a costume game they ain't really going to care (at least this early).
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Well yeah, but that assertion kind of corroborates the statement you're arguing against.
 
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Bob Ross said:
Maybe they know it from scum chat, maybe they did detective work because scum would do that in order to know who to kill at night. Either way town doesn't benefit from doing it and it's not like Dracula is obvious like someone else we have.
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Dracula is playing as someone with experience and is using quite a bit mafia vocabulary so they’re not new to this game.
 
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I actually find it likely that there are two scum on my wagon but any more than that is a fever dream, there's obviously going to be some dispersal
 
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Daenerys Targaryen said:
Just super null in general and their townread on Banana read as a bit fake when I looked into it (Steve seems to townread me, townread Banana from posts where he was suspicious of me).
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Steve is someone I would definitely look into D2, depending on the outcome of D1.
 
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Daenerys Targaryen said:
Just super null in general and their townread on Banana read as a bit fake when I looked into it (Steve seems to townread me, townread Banana from posts where he was suspicious of me).
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I can't objectively disagree but I don't see them as being exclusive beyond reasonable doubt (I can imagine a townie could possibly hold both views at once regardless.) I really like his reasoning behind voting Prisoner being a "meh" while being unable to elaborate on specifics because it was pretty much exactly how I felt about Prisoner's posts, slight scum lean without them standing out much at all.
 
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Dracula said:
I can't objectively disagree but I don't see them as being exclusive beyond reasonable doubt (I can imagine a townie could possibly hold both views at once regardless.) I really like his reasoning behind voting Prisoner being a "meh" while being unable to elaborate on specifics because it was pretty much exactly how I felt about Prisoner's posts, slight scum lean without them standing out much at all.
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Guess I should ISO Prisoner
 
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I GTG for today, I have company coming over and I'm gonna get ready for all of that, I'm satisfied with my vote here. See you guys if I don't get ruthlessly lunched.
 
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I was wondering that too. I can't seem to look at someone's post history past the last like 20ish posts
 
Daenerys Targaryen

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Just looking at the tone Prisoner has that kinda descriptive manner of posting that can look cautious, I think it's NAI and just how they post
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To be honest Spidy insisting on voting Cereal makes me think they might be Town.
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Prisoner said:
unvote
voting out the post leader D1 is usually not a good idea.

I would like to hear more from Barney. What do you think of Dracula? What about Daeny?
Zombie: Any results from your investigation into Dracula?
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Prisoner said:
I don't really feel a Dracula lunch today.
I'm more concerned with Clown, Rey and to an extent Bob.

I'm also not a huge fan of Barney filling the post requirement and then disappearing. It doesn't give us anything to work with in later days
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Dracula said:
Btw, how do I ISO on OM? Assuming you're doing it now.
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I just open every page and ctrl+f the person I'm ISOing.
 
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Spider-Man said:
Kill Bob or Baby, Marry Clown and F...

Oh wait, wrong game.

Protect witch or Dracula, Investigate Jack Sparrow, CK or Barney, kill Bob or Baby. But I could be persuaded to vote Banana too, why not.
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You would kill a baby??
 
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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Dracula (4 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0
Banana - 0
Zombie - 0
Bob Ross - 0
Rey - 0

Banana (3 votes)
Witch - 0 0
Dracula - 0
Witch - 0
Clown - 0

Zombie (3 votes)
Baby - 0
Jack Sparrow - 0
Witch - 0 0
Cereal Killer - 0

Prisoner (2 votes)
Barack Obama - 0
Minecraft Steve - 0

Witch (1 votes)
Kool-Aid Man - 0

Bob Ross (1 votes)
Daenerys Targaryen - 0 0
Spider-Man - 0
Dracula - 0 0

Minecraft Steve (1 votes)
Daenerys Targaryen - 0

Clown (1 votes)
Prisoner - 0

Daenerys Targaryen (0 votes)
Prisoner - 0 0
Rey - 0 0

Spider-Man (0 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0

Cereal Killer (0 votes)
Spider-Man - 0 0
Dracula - 0 0

Barack Obama (0 votes)
Cereal Killer - 0 0

Not voting: Cinderella, Barney

Post Counts:
Daenerys Targaryen: 68 Cereal Killer: 57 Dracula: 55 Witch: 50 Bob Ross: 38 Rey: 34 Clown: 33 Banana: 32 Spider-Man: 23 Barney: 20 Baby: 18 Zombie: 17 Prisoner: 16 Jack Sparrow: 16 Cinderella: 14 Minecraft Steve: 13 Barack Obama: 10 Kool-Aid Man: 9

Current Countdown:
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Spider-Man

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On the off chance Bob isn't scum, his elimination might give us some clues as many players have strong opinions on him
 
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