Puppet Mafia | Everyone's wearing socks
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Mr. Mew
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Bert
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Yeah I caught that too. Like, strange compared to what?Meh at dropping and disappearing since its a weekend. Also
Ernie
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Triumph likes Abby, that's so nice. 8 scum seems like much, I'm thinking 6.
Pinocchio
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Why is it suspicious?
To be honest this feels more like forced engagement than what Howdy did.
Howdy Doody
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I honestly missed the back and forth between Shang, Bert and Ernie on the names spelled wrong bit. I kept going through the chat yesterday and couldn't see any replies from Shang so was like "what are they going on about". But I see the convo today. I must have not refreshed or something
Not sure I like the vote on me though. Shang was gearing to vote for me anyway (see second quote) and then found a flimsy excuse to double down.
Howdy Doody
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Yeah 8 out of 20 no way, but certainly I can see 3 pairs of scum
Howdy Doody
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Wait was was the obvious thing? Shang's reply was that she realized tlshe also misspelled the name. Doesn't seem that 'obvious' to me
Howdy Doody
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Also why is my Oscar the Grouch vote not showing up on the vote tool
VOTE: Oscar the Grouch
VOTE: Oscar the Grouch
Charlie McCarthy
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Fixing my vote
vote: Dynamite Headdy
vote: Dynamite Headdy
Charlie McCarthy
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Doesn't make sense because the town account could just rat out the Scum team and win easily.
Lamb Chop
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...
Forget I said anything.
Grogu
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Meh at dropping and disappearing since its a weekend. Also
Mostly just a gut feeling. However, Howdy's more recent posts make me feel better about them so I'm not voting there today
Topo Gigio
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Do we really only have 9 more hours left on day 1? OMG!
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111
Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99
Kutaro - #105
Oscar the Grouch (1 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21
Not voting: Mr. Mew, Jeff Tracy, Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Ernie, Lamb Chop, Abby Cadabby, Dynamite Headdy, Pinocchio, Elmo, Bert, Triumph the Comic Dog, Grogu
Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 12 Bert: 11 Abby Cadabby: 11 Howdy Doody: 7 Charlie McCarthy: 6 Pinocchio: 6 Ernie: 6 Topo Gigio: 5 Fozzie Bear: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Grogu: 4 Dynamite Headdy: 3 Elmo: 3 Mr. Mew: 3 Triumph the Comic Dog: 3 Lamb Chop: 3 Jeff Tracy: 2 Miss Piggy: 2 Oscar the Grouch: 1 Kutaro: 1
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Day Start
Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111
Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99
Kutaro - #105
Oscar the Grouch (1 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21
Not voting: Mr. Mew, Jeff Tracy, Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Ernie, Lamb Chop, Abby Cadabby, Dynamite Headdy, Pinocchio, Elmo, Bert, Triumph the Comic Dog, Grogu
Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 12 Bert: 11 Abby Cadabby: 11 Howdy Doody: 7 Charlie McCarthy: 6 Pinocchio: 6 Ernie: 6 Topo Gigio: 5 Fozzie Bear: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Grogu: 4 Dynamite Headdy: 3 Elmo: 3 Mr. Mew: 3 Triumph the Comic Dog: 3 Lamb Chop: 3 Jeff Tracy: 2 Miss Piggy: 2 Oscar the Grouch: 1 Kutaro: 1
Current Countdown:
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Jeff Tracy
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I like Shang and Kermit sharing their observations on potential pairs with the room rather than keeping to themselves.
Topo Gigio
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Ok I have reread page 2, but outside of fixing votes it seems like we are mostly just trying to guess how many pairs of scum there are.
8 pairs of scum sounds like so much!
8 pairs of scum sounds like so much!
Shang Bu Huan
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It's day 1 and this thread only has 2 pages. You could categorize anything that people vote for as a flimsy excuse. You did one thing I didn't like and I pointed it out as weird but ultimately mild. You did a second thing and I decided it was enough to bump me over the threshold for voting you, especially since I don't just want an easy run away on Dynamite.
That said, I'll be honest. I'm not going to fight much against that Dynamite vote if it holds ground. Dynamite just completely ignoring his heat tells me it's someone experienced but the low engagement otherwise could be a hint that it's scum hoping for their heat to die down on its own (or it's just the weekend and engagement is low in general but we need something interesting to happen so I'd gamble on this one too).
Shang Bu Huan
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I know what you meant but 8 pairs of scum made me laugh, 16 scum!
Jeff Tracy
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You know what they say about the first person to speculate on a neutral.
Oscar the Grouch
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It’s probably 2 scum teams of 4. Not to say we don’t have 3 non town pairs, but 4 scum in 20 players is still a bunch of scum. Six scum would be crazy!
Asking for theories about pairs while have the players have less than 5 posts is asking a LOT
Topo Gigio
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I posted it and laughed too!
Oscar the Grouch
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Shows you how close attention I was paying. Missed the joke entirely
Oscar the Grouch
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If I had a nickel every time that was the case, I’d have two nickels. Which is weird not because it happened but that it only happened twice!
Topo Gigio
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So Oscar, are you going to change your vote from a “random” one to something with a bit more of a read?
Shang Bu Huan
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I've never been good at the whole guessing how many scum there are thing but 6 does sound like a lot to me. I guess the only thing I'd really contribute is that it wouldn't be crazy to imagine mixed team puppets if the player is controlling a neutral/town or neutral/scum pair. Maybe more likely neutral/town since the neutral win condition on a neutral/scum player would need to be super scum aligned anyway so they don't just rat out the whole bad team immediately. So all that to really say, there could be world where there is an odd number of bad players.
Fozzie Bear
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i thought i missed day end
it looks like dynamite is a bad boy though
it looks like dynamite is a bad boy though
Pinocchio
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I don't know. I feel Scum would sus out who in their chat only controls one puppet and at that point you might as well count the neutral as Scum.
Charlie McCarthy
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@Misswhat's your take on Dynamite Headdy?
Ernie
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This is everything I see on Dynamite. I don't think their level of engagement is as bad as some claim, you could say they are blowing it out of proportion.
I do agree dynamite doesn't seem to be too concerned about the votes, but why would they? I do find it more interesting that the votes on them seem to be conditional on dynamite participating and dynamite did participate a bit and the votes remain there with flimsy or nk excuse at all, so if dyn gets voted out and turns out to be town I think that's a good list to start looking for scum.
Fozzie Bear
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Shang Bu Huan
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True but I guess it boils down to if scum has the same rule that they can't discuss their other account.
Shang Bu Huan
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He really hasn't said much of anything, no. His three posts haven't had much game content but that's also the same case for a lot of the low posters.
Ernie
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I'm not saying dynamite is for sure town, but Miss Peggy has almost no posts other than the vote, and you all have done is follow the vote and that's it. If your reasoning for vote is lack of engagement you might as well vote yourself.
At least Charlie is trying to get something out of Dynamite.
Jeff Tracy
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What made you feel better about Howdy?
Fozzie Bear
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i want to believe! but dynamite needs to help me out
Ernie
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Grab a lighter.
Mr. Mew
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I'm cool leaving it alone for now, but it read like there was a relationship there between you and Howdy
Dynamite Headdy
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Hi all! Sorry, weekend, dealing with stuff, you know how it is. I'm actually ok dying today, as I'm not the doctor (I swear) if people think it could help track scum down a bit more. It is very interesting that Piggy just dipped after voting on me, and the vote on me kinda just picked up Momentum from there. I certainly haven't been posting a lot, so I know this is a little hypocritical, but there's been a lack of activity from a lot of different people so I suspect we don't have scum in our sights at all today. Maybe we could bring it back around with a vote blitz near the end and find scum somehow, but I doubt it. Might be easier to just play it safe for d1
Grogu
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I liked that they responded (even if they didn't really say much of anything) which is more than I can say for some people here. Speaking of,
VOTE: Triumph the Comic Dog
Joking about not liking Bert or Ernie at this point on D1 is enough to earn my temporary ire. But in reality, Triumph, I'd like to see some more from you.
Well, that is not the case, just to be clear, and was not intentioned to come off like that
Triumph the Comic Dog
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Some people claim that baby Yoda is the cutest thing on TV. But those people haven't met me yet AHAHAHHA
I keed, I keed
Triumph the Comic Dog
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I like Shang, and her prodding of various players. I know there's not much to go off of on D1 but I like that she is trying. I'm not sure I'd go with Howdy today though. I feel like scum would be more careful reading the thread.
Dynamite seems too blase about the votes on him, which I think I read as slightly town. It's OK if a townie loses one account, as they have another. But for scum every account counts
Dynamite seems too blase about the votes on him, which I think I read as slightly town. It's OK if a townie loses one account, as they have another. But for scum every account counts
Miss Piggy
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They don't impress moi much taking the backseat. Did I miss why Fozzie is doubling down?
Triumph the Comic Dog
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Oscar the Grouch has only commented on mechanics, speculating on how many scum pairs and whether neutrals are in play. Not sure I like that.
Some people say Oscar the Grouch stinks. But you know who stinks more? YOUR MOM AHAHAHA
(also, that's not referring to any specific mom, more like a generic mom)
Some people say Oscar the Grouch stinks. But you know who stinks more? YOUR MOM AHAHAHA
(also, that's not referring to any specific mom, more like a generic mom)
Triumph the Comic Dog
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It's really hard to think up roasts yall
Dynamite Headdy
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I appreciate the commitment to the bit. A few questions for ya:
1. Why did you vote me in the first place? Just pure random?
2. I don't know if I would call that Fozzy doubling down on me; just a few posts later, they talk about how they want to "want to believe"
Triumph the Comic Dog
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Meh at dropping and disappearing since its a weekend. Also
I don't get this... How did you read a relationship between Grogu and Howdy when Grogu is throwing shade? You think it's scum v scum?
Also why are you "cool leaving it"? This is a game where we got to keep pushing our scum reads. Or do you think you have better scum elsewhere?
Triumph the Comic Dog
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VOTE: Mr Mew
Feels off. He is using gifs a lot without really digging in or pushing players. Maybe he's scared to engage too much, but wants to appear like he is scum hunting.
Feels off. He is using gifs a lot without really digging in or pushing players. Maybe he's scared to engage too much, but wants to appear like he is scum hunting.
Howdy Doody
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Howdy (Doody) all
@Charlie McCarthy what was your reason for your dynamite vote? Initially seemed like you were just trying to get a train going to see reactions, not a bad strategy for D1. But what is your actual read on Dyna? I see you poking Miss Piggy for her read, but don't see you offering your own. You even went so far as to fix your vote, so it is definitely not a throwaway lol
@Charlie McCarthy what was your reason for your dynamite vote? Initially seemed like you were just trying to get a train going to see reactions, not a bad strategy for D1. But what is your actual read on Dyna? I see you poking Miss Piggy for her read, but don't see you offering your own. You even went so far as to fix your vote, so it is definitely not a throwaway lol
Shang Bu Huan
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I'm at a bit of an impasse here. I did a quick re-read of the day so far and there really isn't a whole lot to call anyone out on. Even for a day 1, it's kind of weak all around. I still like my Howdy vote but I know I'm mostly guessing there. I keep re-selling myself on the Dynamite vote but only because of its potential more than actually finding scum. It's cool that he is posting more now but whoever said earlier that if Dynamite flips town, then it would be interesting to narrow in on his early voters isn't wrong. It went from a random vote to a full possibility pretty fast and I highly doubt scum just all targeted someone like that to vote but weak to no reasoning is going to find scum usually.
The obvious flip side though is that sometimes scum just gets random heat day 1 and it's usually the smarter long term play to just burn that player instead of the whole team bending over backwards to save them and in a game where every individual has two accounts? Probably an easier case to make in scum chat too.
I think in lieu of other info today, Dynamite might be the best day 1 vote, sounds like we aren't going to get last minute "I'm the best role in the game" claims, still a chance of being bad, and at least we actually have connections to draw to him depending on how he flips.
The obvious flip side though is that sometimes scum just gets random heat day 1 and it's usually the smarter long term play to just burn that player instead of the whole team bending over backwards to save them and in a game where every individual has two accounts? Probably an easier case to make in scum chat too.
I think in lieu of other info today, Dynamite might be the best day 1 vote, sounds like we aren't going to get last minute "I'm the best role in the game" claims, still a chance of being bad, and at least we actually have connections to draw to him depending on how he flips.
Shang Bu Huan
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New posts while I was writing that, the first time I read that post from Grogu read more to me like "this is weird behavior (in general) that Howdy is doing" not " it's weird that Howdy in particular would be doing this"
I see how someone reads it the second way but even re-reading it again now, I don't think it's number 2 personally.
I see how someone reads it the second way but even re-reading it again now, I don't think it's number 2 personally.
Jeff Tracy
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I could go with Howdy here. Not seeing the fuss with Dynamite.
I also caught this from Grogu:
Vote: Grogu
Agreed on Grogu here. Ignoring the weird phrasing on Howdy, this post just doesn't read great in casting suspicion to open up a vote without much feeling behind it.
I also caught this from Grogu:
Personally I think pair-hunting will be valuable to us so I don't like the way it is dismissed here.
Vote: Grogu
Grogu
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As abby talked about in their post I was replying to, it could put town in a bad position if we guess wrong on who is actually paired. Additionally, I still don't fully trust howdy, but I'm willing to let them live today
Abby Cadabby
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Sorry, been out and catching up.
I keed, I keed!
Especially good ones from the look of it.
I keed, I keed!
Shang Bu Huan
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I know someone complimented me on pair hunting already, but honestly, I also think it’s kind of useless at this stage. Finding scum and then trying to find their pair would be useful but pair hunting right now on day 1 is more a fun past time than actual useful info.
The current people voting him don’t seem to have a reason but also look like they are very attached to the vote which is why I like it as a day 1 vote. Either people lucked into scum by chance and scum doesn’t want to out themselves defending or Dynamite is just town and then we have some bas votes to look at.
Abby Cadabby
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For the first part, maybe I'll come around on the pair-hunting idea, but for now I'm pre-frustrated and pre-paranoid on what that'll turn into for us especially in a game where there's a rule that says "...you cannot comment on others’ speculation of yourself." It might be good to try and figure out pairs if we flip scum, but that rule means more than any other game we have to be careful about re-evaluating after each flip. I dunno how to properly articulate, but this game feels like it has a higher chance of people going down a flip-chain if possible pairings play a factor....pairings that people can't fully defend themselves on. If that makes sense.
BUT as for your second part: D1s suck. If you've got just about nothing to go on with Howdy, but it's still more than the rest of the nothing which leads you to saying you don't full trust then I'd encourage a vote there. (And I say that fully aware I need to settle on a vote)
Abby Cadabby
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Also, hard to take into account low-count posters when those players might be active on one account and leaving their secondary tucked away.
OKay, sorry. Wasting time rambling about the game instead of actually playing and hunting. Definitely doing that now. Hrmmmmmm
OKay, sorry. Wasting time rambling about the game instead of actually playing and hunting. Definitely doing that now. Hrmmmmmm
Charlie McCarthy
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I'm definitely not married to voting Dynamite. The vote was more a method to get some reactions, which I think it succeeded in. Piggy and Fozzie kind of attaching themselves to the random vote after it became a viable wagon doesn't sit that well with me though.
Abby Cadabby
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I've come to the conclusion that I dunno still. I think I might be going back-and-forth between Howdy and Oscar. What I do have a bit more confidence in is Shang Bu Huan
and Charlie McCarthy. Liking the style and posts. They can comfortably go into my tentative written-in-sand town list.
and Charlie McCarthy. Liking the style and posts. They can comfortably go into my tentative written-in-sand town list.
Dynamite has since posted. Curious to hear if they've shifted the needle for you.
Grogu
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I'll probably stick to Triumph today, but if it comes down to it, I'd rather vote Howdy over the current leader Dynamite
Kutaro
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Why?
Pinocchio
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Because there were some people throwing shade at Howdy before. He could have just voted there and point to his justification and I think people wouldn't really have batted an eye, but instead he immediately walked it back after the slightest pushback.
Kutaro
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I guess I just disagree. Immediately backtracking doesn't feel towny at all.
Abby Cadabby
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Vote: Oscar the Grouch
Wanted to drum up conversation but hasn't really taken part in any. Might be busy, but if I'm looking between Oscar and Howdy then Oscar seems the better avenue for now. I like Doody's prodding.
Wanted to drum up conversation but hasn't really taken part in any. Might be busy, but if I'm looking between Oscar and Howdy then Oscar seems the better avenue for now. I like Doody's prodding.
Abby Cadabby
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I mean, yeah. Pinocchio's defense of Grogu has actually made me question Grogu more lol
Bert
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That's twice now you mention "someone" instead of directly quoting whoever said what you are talking about that tells me you either don't care that much who says what or you are trying to pretend to be engaged.
Grogu
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This is totally fair; I'm just a little out of my depth in a D1 like this
Shang Bu Huan
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Im pretty sure both of those cases were about people talking about me and you would be right. I don’t actually care about people’s reads on me so in both cases it wasn’t worth the effort to find the post and verify who it was since I’m on mobile a lot. It wouldn’t have added anything to my point or the conversation if I had called them by name.
Fozzie Bear
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no
im not really sure whats going on or who to vote for but they said they don't care about dying and the only other player i dont like today is yoda .
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111
Oscar the Grouch (2 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171
Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99
Kutaro - #105
Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144
Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21
Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157
Not voting: Mr. Mew, Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Ernie, Lamb Chop, Dynamite Headdy, Pinocchio, Elmo, Bert, Triumph the Comic Dog
Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 21 Abby Cadabby: 17 Bert: 12 Ernie: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 9 Charlie McCarthy: 9 Pinocchio: 9 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Howdy Doody: 8 Jeff Tracy: 6 Dynamite Headdy: 5 Mr. Mew: 5 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Elmo: 3 Miss Piggy: 3 Lamb Chop: 3
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Day Start
Dynamite Headdy (3 votes)
Miss Piggy - #25
Fozzie Bear - #75
Charlie McCarthy - #111
Oscar the Grouch (2 votes)
Howdy Doody - #110
Abby Cadabby - #171
Howdy Doody (2 votes)
Shang Bu Huan - #99
Kutaro - #105
Triumph the Comic Dog (1 votes)
Grogu - #144
Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #21
Grogu (1 votes)
Jeff Tracy - #157
Not voting: Mr. Mew, Kermit the Frog, Topo Gigio, Ernie, Lamb Chop, Dynamite Headdy, Pinocchio, Elmo, Bert, Triumph the Comic Dog
Post Counts:
Shang Bu Huan: 21 Abby Cadabby: 17 Bert: 12 Ernie: 10 Triumph the Comic Dog: 9 Charlie McCarthy: 9 Pinocchio: 9 Fozzie Bear: 8 Topo Gigio: 8 Grogu: 8 Howdy Doody: 8 Jeff Tracy: 6 Dynamite Headdy: 5 Mr. Mew: 5 Oscar the Grouch: 4 Kutaro: 4 Kermit the Frog: 4 Elmo: 3 Miss Piggy: 3 Lamb Chop: 3
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Bert
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If I'm town and other players are trying to put me in their pocket with nice comments I make extra notes on that behavior, since all I got at the start of the game is nothing at all, so how others relate to me is important since I KNOW I'm town so others commenting on my alignment in important clues. The fact you don't seem to care means you are not actually trying to solve.
Shang Bu Huan
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No, it just means I don't solve the way you do. All you really said there works on an assumption that anyone saying something nice automatically means it is a bad player trying to appease a good player. I didn't get that feeling at all so far when I read the things about me which means my concern for those posts ends there. For as much as you are trying to push me, I also read your posts and still see concerned townie as opposed to scum trying to bake up a narrative. Does that mean I am trying to pocket you too?
Bert
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It is interesting how both times you don't take the time to make note of who is saying what in a game with 2 pages so far.
Mr. Mew
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Do you think Shang should be up for elimination or are you just doing busywork right now?
Howdy Doody
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Oh I missed Kutaru's vote on me
@kutaru howdy. Can I answer anything
@kutaru howdy. Can I answer anything
Ernie
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Vote: Miss Piggy
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE BACON
Howdy Doody
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I feel for Shang. Quoting on mobile is a pain, and I don't think alignment indicative at all
Bert
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How is it busy work? Everyone should be up for elimination if anyone has a good enough reason. Who do you want to eliminate?
Bert
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It's not a quoting issue, is a "Who cares who mentions me" issue. Maybe I'm too self-aware but I care what other people think about me.
Mr. Mew
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I could follow you at first then it turned into looking for the worst read of everything Shang says. If you think Shang isn't town then put a vote down. Otherwise you both have a different playstyle and should move on from it.
Shang Bu Huan
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That’s correct, it’s not so much a quoting issue as it is a “do I really need to go pick out who said this one small detail?” But yeah, I’m sorry, I don’t care what other people think of me much. I don’t find it helps me pick bad people out of a line up most times. The interactions seemed genuine and made sense, that’s what I care about for scum hunting.
Miss Piggy
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1. Good instincts darling
2. It looks like Fozzie is not your #1 fan. Less doubling down but more saying they are good with the vote where it is
Abby Cadabby
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Aaaand you're voting for whom? (who? whom? It's who, right?)
Yeah....my only pause with them is how nonchalant they are about their dying like you've said, but I guess having a spare account makes that a lot easier to be carefree about it.
Miss Piggy
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Miss piggy could never
Bert
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I'm more than willing to vote Shang but seems early right now, it is an interesting note to make for later.
Miss Piggy
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Wake me up when it gets good.
Bert
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Well if they seemed genuine then you could put them in the town for now pile. Sounds like you don't have piles. As in, not solving.
I am thinking maybe voting you now is fine.
Abby Cadabby
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So you think he could be scum.......?
Ernie
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It's getting good!
Abby Cadabby
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Speaking of bacon, I have to run. Going to leave my vote parked and will try to show up end of day, but we makin breakfast for supper tonight and I'm on french toast duty.
Dynamite Headdy
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Howdy, partner! I understand why you've decided to vote on me today, but who would be your second choice?