Worse man, you got redirectedFor example I knew mafia was likely to only role block me if I targeted scum and that was info itself
No, scum had a one shot switch and used it to switch Hagi and Aeleus. That means when you shot at Hagi it was redirected to Aeleus which inadvertantly also killed Razmos who was hiding behind them.What exactly happened to my bullet by the way was it just a regular role block?
I think your idea was good, and claiming 2 shot was a brilliant idea. The only thing I would have done differently is that to have taken the shot first, claimed 2 shot the next day and then made your vote shot list, which may have forced scum to interfere with you when you were empty.Also I knew claiming during day meant it was likely my ability could be stopped I valued info from the vote more than getting a kill. I did not suspect multiple Vigs
wow yeah that's a really good ideaI think your idea was good, and claiming 2 shot was a brilliant idea. The only thing I would have done differently is that to have taken the shot first, claimed 2 shot the next day and then made your vote shot list, which may have forced scum to interfere with you when you were empty.
Reki said to use they'll be mad if there's more than 2 scum because of all the anti town utilities in the game. XDKey here will be the discipline of town to not put down votes early, also noticing there is no reason for scum to be less than 4(I don't why lately in the meta there is this wishful thinking of expecting scum teams to be ridiculously small).
I'm sorry buddy :< You tried really hard. You didn't give up at least. >:DMan that last day felt awful i was talking to a brick wall
Ahem Razmos died because he was hiding in Aeleus' dreams.killed Razmos who was hiding behind them.
LOL they are really underestimating LP. He's the ninja town.Scum: We should check LP's role.
Also Scum: Actually, nah check someone else.
Me:
LP:Scum: We should check LP's role.
Also Scum: Actually, nah check someone else.
Me:
Actually if LP saves Reki tonight and town lunches Hagi it'd beDoes it really matter? Haven't done the math but even if Hagi is lynched then if scum targets Reki which LP can't save again then it's game over right? It's a wrap.
It depends on scum targeting Reki now.Actually if LP saves Reki tonight and town lunches Hagi it'd be
5:3. If scum targets Reki they may fuck themselves because Reki would cause the two consecutive days which give town more shots to get scum.
If they successfully get scum both times, then it'd only be one scum left.
You did really good! I was really questioning it when you claimed, but your plan was a really good one. If I had been in your place tho, I would have kept saying I had two shots so scum would waste a block/kill on me. I'd also probably shoot based on who I was most suspicious, just using the king vote as a way to get data and conceal my shot from scum. xDIs it weird that I am questioning of i played to hard or not hard enough . there a part of my brain that says things would have gone better if I went even crazier with my claim lol.
Hard to know. Sometimes town gets convinced by iron and fire crazyness, other times they lunch you first sight.Is it weird that I am questioning of i played to hard or not hard enough . there a part of my brain that says things would have gone better if I went even crazier with my claim lol.
Ah yeah forgot Reki's role, you're right, but then why the fuck are they considering him for a kill in the first place?Actually if LP saves Reki tonight and town lunches Hagi it'd be
5:3. If scum targets Reki they may fuck themselves because Reki would cause the two consecutive days which give town more shots to get scum.
If they successfully get scum both times, then it'd only be one scum left.
Yep... we'll see who they pick. And sorry guys but we won't tell you in here ;)It depends on scum targeting Reki now.
These games are meant to be good fun and to relax man, don't take it so seriously, it's for fun.I am unsure of i want to jump into another game right away or not. That last 72 hours were so stressful. I nearly cried in real life this morning because I knew if I failed to save myself town would lose and it would be largely my fault.
that was what I was gonna do I was gonna shoot HAGI no matter what the vote said. I even avoided voting for Hagi myself or mentioning him often that day but hagi by chance won the vote anywayYou did really good! I was really questioning it when you claimed, but your plan was a really good one. If I had been in your place tho, I would have kept saying I had two shots so scum would waste a block/kill on me. I'd also probably shoot based on who I was most suspicious, just using the king vote as a way to get data and conceal my shot from scum. xD
You mean like how town was willing to auto lunch Sparks and nin when they claimed? XDHard to know. Sometimes town gets convinced by iron and fire crazyness, other times they lunch you first sight.
When I played my first game (I lived the entire game so it was stressful as fuck >>) I decided to do every other game, so if that's what you want to do then go for it c: You were a welcome addition to our little community.I am unsure of i want to jump into another game right away or not. That last 72 hours were so stressful. I nearly cried in real life this morning because I knew if I failed to save myself town would lose and it would be largely my fault.
At least you held to your convictions then. c: And at least you got to unlock your vig shot. c:that was what I was gonna do I was gonna shoot HAGI no matter what the vote said. I even avoided voting for Hagi myself or mentioning him often that day but hagi by chance won the vote anyway
I believed him and was willing to spare him but when I saw how erratic he was being and how badly town reacted i quickly changed coarse it was not worth casting major suspicion on myself to save a neutral. Even though I was certain keeping sparks would not lose the game for town.town was willing to auto lunch Sparks
I was rooting for you when you said that actually :D We made a pro town neutral and an anti town one and I feel like you were one of the few who realized Sparks might not be a threat.I believed him and was willing to spare him but when I saw how erratic he was being and how badly town reacted i quickly changed coarse it was not worth casting major suspicion on myself to save a neutral. Even though I was certain keeping sparks would not lose the game for town.
If a couple more people stepped up I might defended sparks harder but I didn't want to be the lone guy trying to save a neutral and look anti town I needed to have major trust when I killed someone. I had not devised the Kingshot vote plan yet that plan came together only after sparks went home and I saw how little town had going for it. So I tried to make something happen. well I did make Something happened it was not good but it was something lolI was rooting for you when you said that actually :D We made a pro town neutral and an anti town one and I feel like you were one of the few who realized Sparks might not be a threat.
He could have sided with scum later, but he had a chance to team up with you guys too c:
What didn't help Sparks case was the double death the night before. XD Town was way too convinced of a SK in this game. XD Tho funny enough Roc used to have a killing power, but the review team and Pedro I think actually were against that. Your Vig shot was basically a counter to Roc that we kept in game.
I still kind of wish we had made you and Aeleus' roles masons. XD
Trust me when I say I've been there. I don't know if I ever admitted this, but I did cry after losing MafiEra Mafia. These games get very stressful, and it's hard, for me at least, to not get emotionally involved in them.I am unsure of i want to jump into another game right away or not. That last 72 hours were so stressful. I nearly cried in real life this morning because I knew if I failed to save myself town would lose and it would be largely my fault.
Damn man good job on having the strength to come out and say this, I wouldn't if I had cried in a mafia gameI did cry after losing MafiEra Mafia
Every one when I replaced in for Stan and immediately lost it for town because I believed scum!Reki over town!Blargonaut?Trust me when I say I've been there. I don't know if I ever admitted this, but I did cry after losing MafiEra Mafia. These games get very stressful, and it's hard, for me at least, to not get emotionally involved in them.
However, as I was told after my first game when I blamed myself for Town's loss, I will now tell you after your first game, it is never one person's fault. These games have a lot of moving parts in them, especially a Role Madness game, and the result was not on any one person. For example, my role had literal random chance involved in it. If I had known on N1 that Chugg was a Jack of all Trades, I would have gotten him voted out on D2. Period. But I didn't get that info, so I wasn't able to do that. That's just one example of how the game was not on your shoulders, we could go back and mix and match people's night targets, make it so Sparks doesn't claim as a Neutral, and none of that stuff would have happened on those days, and none of that stuff happened because of you in the first place, it was just how the game went.
Basically, I'm just trying to say that I know what it's like to feel that way, and you're not alone there. I have honestly been much more personally responsible for the loss of a game than anything you did in this one, if it makes you feel any better. I literally once made a list of 3 players and convinced everyone to turbo through them back-to-back-to-back because I thought I had the game solved and the last Scum had to be on that list, but I was wrong and we fucking lost! But even then, it was not entirely on me! No one was forced to listen to me or do what I said, things could have went differently earlier in the game, etc. The moral of the story is, there's too many variables in these games to ever just lay it all on one person.
I've cried at least once every mafia game I've been in except for Scooby doo. XDDamn man good job on having the strength to come out and say this, I wouldn't if I had cried in a mafia game
it not feeling bad for yourself that got me emotional it was letting down a team of people depending on you.Damn man good job on having the strength to come out and say this, I wouldn't if I had cried in a mafia game
You cried in HVV2? where?I've cried at least once every mafia game I've been in except for Scooby doo. XD
I can see why you'd be upset about that, but again you weren't the only one town was depending on. XD Town should have been willing to listen to all sides of the argument and they didn't. Some of that is because of their claims being convincing enough, but some of that is for town doing what town is going do.it not feeling bad for yourself that got me emotional it was letting down a team of people depending on you.
Yes you'll get to see everything actually including modchat if you are on our discord and the review thread on here. XD The gossip threads too. c:Do we get to see mafia chat when the game is over?
uhhhh... don't remember when... but might have been when I was wrong about LP being scum and wasn't really believing in my reads at that point?You cried in HVV2? where?
Find a playstyle that fits you and your schedule, try to be consistent or people will call you out if they find differences.Question to everyone do you want to see me play more under the radar next game or like a absolute mad man?
Surprise us \o/ Basically play with a style that you find comfortable. XD Also... once you've settled into a style never fucking change it because man do people scum read you if you change it >>;Question to everyone do you want to see me play more under the radar next game or like a absolute mad man?
But if I keep changing my style and people can't pin me down won't it be even harder to guess when I eventually play as mafia?Find a playstyle that fits you and your schedule, try to be consistent or people will call you out if they find differences.
like if I change style once sure but if I keep going longing styles evergame, how will th st read me when mafia if I skip as mafia it will just come off as a style changeBut if I keep changing my style and people can't pin me down won't it be even harder to guess when I eventually play as mafia?
Maybe but you'll have to endure some d1 or d2 lynches before that happens.But if I keep changing my style and people can't pin me down won't it be even harder to guess when I eventually play as mafia?
Most likely they will just scum read you because you are playing against the meta you have established.But if I keep changing my style and people can't pin me down won't it be even harder to guess when I eventually play as mafia?
That'd also be good :P I'm sure my advice will come back to bite me later so thanks for that.Also maybe I should not be discussing my future strategy in a public forum lol
I'm not going to lie, there are games where I've had the chance to win it for town or at least get a thorough line to victory right then, but decided to showboat and ended up losing the entire game when something unexpected happened. 999 comes to mind, as does TMBG mafia, where a single mistake caused the game to spiral into defeat. The moments right after are the worst where it's a mixture of regret and release while also knowing that even though I did share some part in our loss, we failed as a team. My head knows it's a collective loss but my heart believes I could've been the second coming. It happens. You feel like shit afterwards.Trust me when I say I've been there. I don't know if I ever admitted this, but I did cry after losing MafiEra Mafia. These games get very stressful, and it's hard, for me at least, to not get emotionally involved in them.
However, as I was told after my first game when I blamed myself for Town's loss, I will now tell you after your first game, it is never one person's fault. These games have a lot of moving parts in them, especially a Role Madness game, and the result was not on any one person. For example, my role had literal random chance involved in it. If I had known on N1 that Chugg was a Jack of all Trades, I would have gotten him voted out on D2. Period. But I didn't get that info, so I wasn't able to do that. That's just one example of how the game was not on your shoulders, we could go back and mix and match people's night targets, make it so Sparks doesn't claim as a Neutral, and none of that stuff would have happened on those days, and none of that stuff happened because of you in the first place, it was just how the game went.
Basically, I'm just trying to say that I know what it's like to feel that way, and you're not alone there. I have honestly been much more personally responsible for the loss of a game than anything you did in this one, if it makes you feel any better. I literally once made a list of 3 players and convinced everyone to turbo through them back-to-back-to-back because I thought I had the game solved and the last Scum had to be on that list, but I was wrong and we fucking lost! But even then, it was not entirely on me! No one was forced to listen to me or do what I said, things could have went differently earlier in the game, etc. The moral of the story is, there's too many variables in these games to ever just lay it all on one person.
Fuck it, some of the music in Nier still makes me cry XD or feel sad at least. I love it tho.I should point out that I'm naturally a crier so I cry even when I stub my toe. XD Saying I cried about something is not a shock for me, though I do like to point out things that really made me cry like sayyyyy Nier. XD
It's okay XD I just had to warn you not to highlight things. XD It might have helped to read the rules tho ;)By the way sorry for messing up the voting tool with the King vote. Part of me thought I might crossing a line with the rules creating my own voting system but I went forward anyway. I'm hindsight should have asked permission first.
That's completely fine. So long as you don't use highlight with it you're welcome to make whichever lists you find are necessary. Or fun.By the way sorry for messing up the voting tool with the King vote. Part of me thought I might crossing a line with the rules creating my own voting system but I went forward anyway. I'm hindsight should have asked permission first.
I have not looked back at the thread i am dead maybe I will look tomorrow and see what happenedFuck it, some of the music in Nier still makes me cry XD or feel sad at least. I love it tho.
Also @jman1954goat did you like your death music? >:D
... :o Are you aware what happened then?I have not looked back at the thread i am dead maybe I will look tomorrow and see what happened
TMBG mafia,
I need to read that one apparently :oNEVER FORGET!!!!
Read it again :PWait stove died too wtf
Can you figure out why? c:Wait no stove won ?
That too was not your fault. Stove entered the game and actually picked you immediately. XD Luckily town still has a shot. c:I was being hunted now I feel terrible all over again.
Stove was hunting you, Fran, and Aeleus XD You just happened to be the one be picked night two so he stayed on you. Funny enough he checked Hagi night 3 and because of the switch he was told Hagi was from Facade too due to being switched with Aeleus.I did think it was weird when I received that first stove vote out of the blue
yes the music is very goodFuck it, some of the music in Nier still makes me cry XD or feel sad at least. I love it tho.
Also @jman1954goat did you like your death music? >:D
I'm really hoping the kill fail i want to see at least one day as a spectator even though town probably loses anywayHas scum noticed that the reason this night phase is happening is because there is a way for the kill to fail?
They're erring on the side of caution, so while they didn't specifically say anyone had protection they're making their choices with that in mind.Has scum noticed that the reason this night phase is happening is because there is a way for the kill to fail?
I think the next game is Mario mafia, if you're interested you should sign up, I will for sure.Turmoil7 I hope to play with you again being the day 1 lunch sucks
It’s especially funny since he just did this same play as scum lolSeriously though, like, sometimes Scum is just going to be Scum. That's what Salva has been all game in my eyes, just openly being Scummy. He knew that neither Sparks nor Nin were Scum, said as much in the thread, speaks from a Scum perspective multiple times, muddies the waters around any worthwhile discussions by coming up with elaborate theories and justifications, and refused to role claim during what was mostly a mass claim session near the end of the game. Those are all red flags, alarms are going off everywhere, there is a sign above his head in neon colors that just says "SCUM" with an arrow pointing down, and Town still doesn't want to vote for him.
Yeah, it’s a super stressful game. Don’t let it get you down and don’t let the commentary make you feel bad. Shit happens. Just have fun! Sometimes it’ll break your way, sometimes it won’t.Trust me when I say I've been there. I don't know if I ever admitted this, but I did cry after losing MafiEra Mafia. These games get very stressful, and it's hard, for me at least, to not get emotionally involved in them.
However, as I was told after my first game when I blamed myself for Town's loss, I will now tell you after your first game, it is never one person's fault. These games have a lot of moving parts in them, especially a Role Madness game, and the result was not on any one person. For example, my role had literal random chance involved in it. If I had known on N1 that Chugg was a Jack of all Trades, I would have gotten him voted out on D2. Period. But I didn't get that info, so I wasn't able to do that. That's just one example of how the game was not on your shoulders, we could go back and mix and match people's night targets, make it so Sparks doesn't claim as a Neutral, and none of that stuff would have happened on those days, and none of that stuff happened because of you in the first place, it was just how the game went.
Basically, I'm just trying to say that I know what it's like to feel that way, and you're not alone there. I have honestly been much more personally responsible for the loss of a game than anything you did in this one, if it makes you feel any better. I literally once made a list of 3 players and convinced everyone to turbo through them back-to-back-to-back because I thought I had the game solved and the last Scum had to be on that list, but I was wrong and we fucking lost! But even then, it was not entirely on me! No one was forced to listen to me or do what I said, things could have went differently earlier in the game, etc. The moral of the story is, there's too many variables in these games to ever just lay it all on one person.
Do what you want! Some people try and play super consistently, others like to be wild cards and switch it up. It’s your preference. Also, one game this season will be a costume game where everyone plays with costume accounts instead of a normal account to hide identities which could be something you’d enjoy.Question to everyone do you want to see me play more under the radar next game or like a absolute mad man?
Thanks again for letting me play. I think I said so in the other thread but Neogaf mafia was the only reason I wanted a gaf account back in the day (I never could a paid email back then I was a teenager lol) it's honestly a bit surreal to play with a lot of the names I recognize from reading games while lurking all those years ago.
Thank you for playing, I hope it matched your expectations.Thanks again for letting me play. I think I said so in the other thread but Neogaf mafia was the only reason I wanted a gaf account back in the day (I never could a paid email back then I was a teenager lol) it's honestly a bit surreal to play with a lot of the names I recognize from reading games while lurking all those years ago.
He marked Jman twice even though we told him he could pick someone else because Jman will always be marked.
However, last night he scent checked Hagi and because A and Hagi were switched, he got a result saying Hagi is from Facade.
I feel like I should be happy for Stove if he wins but he's basically won by doing nothing lol
Good game to Jman and Stove when they get here!
Thank you!
@jman1954goat scum can have(and in this game they indeed had) powers that hindrance town, so that's why you don't claim your power early, and don't say who you will kill in thread when you are a vig. Keeping secrets close to your chest is part of the game too when you are town.
They are a really good player C: Vere and I have been saying as much through out spec chat. No wonder I sided with scum them instead of town that one time :pI also have to say, Reki is an excellent player and I had to be extremely careful because of how intelligently they were playing.
I was screaming at a you today in real life it was infurarating that you stopped talking at all especially when the previous player in your spot was kicked for inactivity. Well played friend.This was a fun first game. I was on the edge of my seat for a lot of those last few hours.
OH! I read it as whoever I mark for the day is my only target. This makes sense!
This was intentional! You have no idea how many posts I typed up, and deleted. When I marked Jman again, I specifically said my plan was to stay on jman and hope the chaos of the night turns people onto jman. That's exactly what happened.
I typed up at least 6 different messages when people started voting for me, but I deleted them because I didn't want the attention on myself. I wanted people to think it was senseless to remove me and go for who they thought was the most likely scum/neutral. If I spoke up people would be overanalysing everything I say like they were doing with my other posts and I would have trapped myself. I still can't believe it worked.
Thanks,
Sorry I was gunning for you jman, but that's the game I suppose. I was wondering if someone was going to point out how weird it was I was voting for you straight away because "My instincts tell me something bad about you"
I had hope this morning if stove comes back maybe my the pressure on him will force him to switch votes to Hagi lol. I see now you had me in checkmate from the start.I was screaming at a you today in real life it was infurarating that you stopped talking at all especially when the previous player in your spot was kicked for inactivity. Well played friend.
Your issue wasn't that you didn;t account for his time zone. XD When you made the votes in him I was like "nooooooo don't vote him" but I was also "LOL he's not coming back before day end."I had hope this morning if stove comes back maybe my the pressure on him will force him to switch votes to Hagi lol. I see now you had me in checkmate from the start.