Welcome Trigger,
You are Rogue. True Identity Anna Marie.
Your role is Town Miller. You have no active abilities and if investigated, you will return a “non-town” result.
You win when all threats to town are eliminated.
Trigger said:
Trigger said:
Trigger said:
Well.. I’d complain about him not claiming Miller D1... but he didn’t really bother to play so I guess it’s not that surprising.Trigger's role PM:
12 misses, 2 hits.How many shots just missed? Someone go do the math and figure out if we were bamboozled
Quick, but a lottery ticket.Oh god, I've never been this lucky in my life
Miller is always an extra layer of uncertainty, so he would've had to go regardless.Dammit. Should have just kept Ynnek. WTF
So 85,7% missed. Math checks out.12 misses, 2 hits.
Snort. Sucks that he was town though. I can’t ever read him so I figured he was a fair shot from the inactives.In memory of his passing, we now present Trigger's greatest posts.
Yeah thinking about it a bit, you’re right. Especially one who has been MIA all game bar two posts of bandwagoning, and the fact that he neglected to claim or even hint at his role D1.Miller is always an extra layer of uncertainty, so he would've had to go regardless.
I guess that’s higher than I thought. Still though..(.85)^7 = 32% chance that vere wasn't immune/auto dodge (versus bp) assuming everyone who took a shot was non boosted
I told him the same, he doesn't give a f. He just wants to live to have fun in the game.So, Vere, if you’re telling the truth, we trade you for a scum and lament your passing. You know? It gets us one step closer to a win.
Or, you, I dunno, believe me when I say Zipped is full of itSo, Vere, if you’re telling the truth, we trade you for a scum and lament your passing. You know? It gets us one step closer to a win.
How do you propose he learned of your role? Not sure if I just missed it if you explained already. Because now the BP is confirmed, so he wasn’t lying about that.Or, you, I dunno, believe me when I say Zipped is full of it
I'm still pretty sure he's a JOAT, only thing that makes sense to meHow do you propose he learned of your role? Not sure if I just missed it if you explained already. Because now the BP is confirmed, so he wasn’t lying about that.
Well, obviously he's telling the truth about knowing I'm a RC and the BP, but that leaves so much vague leg room its BS to say he's a RC based on that.And what in particular would make him “full of it?”
Have you guys ever used Jack with BP? I’m not going to discount the possibility, but I don’t recall ever seeing one myself.I'm still pretty sure he's a JOAT, only thing that makes sense to me
I seem to recall seeing one, but that game was pretty bastard.Have you guys ever used Jack with BP? I’m not going to discount the possibility, but I don’t recall ever seeing one myself.
Why do you think he would go out of his way to push for you specifically? Not like he was being pushed to the top of the chopping block.Well, obviously he's telling the truth about knowing I'm a RC and the BP, but that leaves so much vague leg room its BS to say he's a RC based on that.
I have no idea. Thought he was role fishing and then settling on an easy lynch. I really don't know why since he apparently didn't even know I was rbed.Why do you think he would go out of his way to push for you specifically? Not like he was being pushed to the top of the chopping block.
I mean, that's one interpretation, but I wouldn't say it's the only one.I told him the same, he doesn't give a f. He just wants to live to have fun in the game.
This is where I'm stuck. I really don't know which is more likely.D&D time for me, not sure where the lie/truth is between Zipped/Vere but I'd tend to imagine that if we have 2 role cops and one is BP and the other isn't, the one with BP is more likely to be scum.
I guess I'm just kind of tired. The past two days cases against me being comprised of WIFOM and 'feelings' and succeeding make me doubt any sincerity left.My main problem, Vere, is that all I see if you continue to seemingly shout at the top of your lungs that Zipped must be “BS” but you haven’t made much of a case against him outside of that, and you yourself haven’t even consider an alternative. Just feels very weak.
So, I calmed down and realized my response wasn't very helpful, but if you had looked at Zipped's post history you'd see what I mean. I'm the only thing of substance he's talked about over the last two days. He's been singlemindedly chasing me over the event for 'reasons that feel bad to him'. I literally can't argue against that, just as him saying there was scum in the event is unprovable for me, and there's nothing in his posts I haven't addressed to deaf ears.My main problem, Vere, is that all I see if you continue to seemingly shout at the top of your lungs that Zipped must be “BS” but you haven’t made much of a case against him outside of that, and you yourself haven’t even consider an alternative. Just feels very weak.
LolYeah well you're scum buddy
Where are the others?
Verelios is true scum, I have not lied once.Or, you, I dunno, believe me when I say Zipped is full of it
@Zippedpinhead - this was after your check, right? What happened?I do too heymonkey, I think my mind has turned around in the last 28 hours.
just so you don't have to go look - I'd said I felt better about Vere and that was your response.@Zippedpinhead - this was after your check, right? What happened?
I thought about it and realized that town wouldn’t have my role twice or other shenanigans exist. I figured blow up the game make my knowledge mean something@Zippedpinhead - this was after your check, right? What happened?
I really don't know how to feel about this. What made you think "oh cool, we're the same" when you got your result in the first place?I thought about it and realized that town wouldn’t have my role twice or other shenanigans exist. I figured blow up the game make my knowledge mean something
If Verelios and Blade are both scum, it's possible Vere voted Blade intentionally to let him win.
no from what I understand Verelios had no idea who the three vote winner were going to vote. With the added provision that no talking outside of the event meant that even if they had an outside board there was no collusion. Just bad luck.
he did however give bladesymphony a bonus though.
none of the vote winners would have chosen themselves, because even if they would have won they would have lost, so Verelios had to bet that one of two best of voters would chose a different voter.
Verelios that vote makes no sense unless you wanted to ensure that a specific person got the benefit.
said it way better than I did.
my thoughts on this game outside of my read on the verelios situation and literally waking up to an insane day within a day?
its hard to follow a game with 50 people.
being more serious, I like Faddy, Melonrabbit, Stuart444, grizzly, *Splinter, HeyMonkey and Kyanrute. I really did not want either Melonrabbit or *Splinter to die during that thunderdome so I voted accordingly once I got my bearings. I'm CDT, so my view of that event was the 5 minutes between exercising and shower. I skimmed what it was, saw Gorlak's post and tried to get a vote in to matter.
as far as players I don't like? verelios, even with the "confusion" i find the whole play and defense scummy. My vote before the mini-day event was on Verelios and I am debating (internally) whether to place it back on Verelios.
I also think Bladesymphony was odd in the event results. but not as much as verelios. Scum verelios could give a benefit to a town player and then later on after shady stuff goes down say "bladesymphony never told us his gift, maybe they did it".
other players are tough to determine. Geno everyone seems to be voting for, but I am not sure if that is Meta/jokes or legit. I think it is very VERY weird that Blargonaut is absent so far, but maybe that was supposed to happen. kinda have null reads fro Hecht and Fireblend. I like Gorlak a little, but still just barely town than null.
And those are only the people that i have reads on and it barely is 14/49 (since I am 50 and know where I am in this game).
I think they are judging my activity not so much my posts. It’s fair and only day 1, but it’s a bit of a tunnel by Natiko, but the others are even more off base. Bladesymphony threw a vote to prod me but then I don’t think he commented or made any acknowledgement of my post afterwards.
Natiko at least read through it and has a read.
Nzjubjub? Nzjubjub wants a detailed reads list when i thought I was honest and gave a reads list of everyone I had a read on. And that’s how the vote goes. I’m not about to lie and give out reads on people that I truly don’t have a read on. Liars get lynched, and I’m not one.
Faircure’s vote? Was it half typed up and then they when away and posted it afterwards? It kinda seemed out of there and repeated NZJubjub.
Honestly I don’t see the rynam vote and will vote for verelios because I still don’t trust that it was all confusion.
vote: Verelios
JOIN
This, I guess, is at the heart of why I'm asking. Because I guess this says Rynam's flip factors in - but it also sounds like the suspicion here started with Grizzly's flip, so I'm not getting why you felt better about Vere at start of day and then suddenly shifted back.oh believe me, after seeing the sacrifice, and then the recent flip I'm SURE that something is up with what I did and what I saw last night. and Verelios is at the heart of it.
This, I guess, is at the heart of why I'm asking. Because I guess this says Rynam's flip factors in - but it also sounds like the suspicion here started with Grizzly's flip, so I'm not getting why you felt better about Vere at start of day and then suddenly shifted back.
Anyone wanna take out Natiko with me
it'll be fun
I with you kind of. 50/50 because I think Geno is a good lynch too.
All I remember about Natiko was something about going bit too far with the whole "why would scum do this". That reminded me of some sharp things in a haystack.
brb quotes so i can comfortably prepare an alt for myself
Going after everything that moves. Same reason why if you weren't RB'd (allegedly) I would be voting you.
VOTE: Grizzly
Sure, let’s see if anything shakes loose. Zipped seems to have stalled out and nobody would follow me to Apollo or Zubz. Let’s make it interesting.
I have Vere as null still, Grizzly’s tone is what led to me opting to go that route. It just felt..off compared to what I felt like he usually did.
You were the 4th or 5th vote. You stated yourself that you had no reason to vote other than to see "what shakes loose". The fact that Grizz went haywire while you vote was on him doesnt mean it couldnt have been an early bus.You might want to check when I voted Grizzly again.
Wait so was I an early vote, or did I vote only when it was clear Grizzly was getting lynched? Also, why didn't you go quote the conversation with Kyan following the bit you posted? Oh that's right, because it doesn't support your argument. If scum's plan is to use a TD on themselves, then claim the TD after mass organizing a no lynch, why do I even bother to share my thought that it was an event from the game runner? If you want to accuse me of being scum go for it, but at least don't be dishonest in doing so.You were the 4th or 5th vote. You stated yourself that you had no reason to vote other than to see "what shakes loose". The fact that Grizz went haywire while you vote was on him doesnt mean it couldnt have been an early bus.
Wasn't there a way to post a vote count at a certain time? Or did I make that up because I got used to it at MU? Anyway it looks like the vote was more contentious when Natiko voted? There were still votes on Rynam then and a few on Vere and maybe some on Zipped?
Uhm, you posted yourself that you only voted for him to see what happens. I didnt make that upWait so was I an early vote, or did I vote only when it was clear Grizzly was getting lynched?
Which part do you mean? Cuz the exchange im looking at between you and kyan was him calling you out on your wifom posting/busy work. You rebuttal it, but he isnt 100% on you in any way.Also, why didn't you go quote the conversation with Kyan following the bit you posted? Oh that's right, because it doesn't support your argument.
Maybe because you want to appear as town? IDK. Could be regular conversation from a townie, could be mafia covering their tracks.If scum's plan is to use a TD on themselves, then claim the TD after mass organizing a no lynch, why do I even bother to share my thought that it was an event from the game runner?
Some Natiko WIFOM what to me at the time (and still) felt ehh. Had that "look at me I am talking!" -vibe to it. My issue is that how could one even expect to come up with THE answer out of all the possibilities. I can think of one ok explanation for these posts at least, maybe Natiko will pick it too.
Covering all bases rawr look at townie me being all town.
To add to the Natiko WIFOM, there was that lil bit about playing the game designer with the what was it, ah, N-hour time delay D1 only (or DIE) pick two thunderdome with no lynch enabled!. That was dumdum from all involved, yours truly included.
Some odd comments are all I see here.
that should be enough ofc
The series of questions was me trying to work through the scenarios out loud - the theories that were being thrown around didn't add up for me (e.g. Vere and Blade being scummates). On a surface level (Vere gave Blade the item!) it works, but once you think about the logic behind it it fell apart. I feel like it's practically guaranteed that scum joined the game, but I have yet to be able to glean what occurred due to not having enough info. I mention that in a different post that you didn't quote.
As to the other point, I'm not going to apologize for laying out my thoughts. If that's scummy now then fuck me I guess.
As you can see above, Kyan points out some bits of WIFOM regarding me. He then mentions that he can think of one explanation, I explain my thought process during the bit he questioned and lo and behold and agrees that it makes sense. From that point forward he doesn't appear to scum read me again. But yeah, I definitely felt so threatened that I just had to take him out.yeah fuck you CAUGHT YOU BADDIE
And yes 10/10 my guess too was that that all could've been just thinking and writing at the same time.
Except only one of them voted me and his case never had examples, even when I pushed him to provide context.Uhm, you posted yourself that you only voted for him to see what happens. I didnt make that up
Which part do you mean? Cuz the exchange im looking at between you and kyan was him calling you out on your wifom posting/busy work. You rebuttal it, but he isnt 100% on you in any way.
Maybe because you want to appear as town? IDK. Could be regular conversation from a townie, could be mafia covering their tracks.
I just noticed that 3 of the dead confirmed town that suspected you/wanted to vote you yesterday are now dead. That's a fact.