I meant how did you read that?
I read it as town dont waste your shots on me.
Well he just claimed twice BP so that's out the window.
I meant how did you read that?
I read it as town dont waste your shots on me.
So why does geno not get the benefit of the doubt?Didn't say that.
Before he said that, what did you think he meant?Well he just claimed twice BP so that's out the window.
Town using ITAs on a bulletproof is wasting them.Well he just claimed twice BP so that's out the window.
You being more worried about the way people perceive Geno than about surviving is 50% noble, 50% fucking weird.Why?
@Sawneeks Yeah, I’m not going to sit here and act like I deserve all the credit in the world for the Grizzly lynch. None of my scumreads were viable lynch options, Rynam was a lazy lynch, and I felt like Vere had a better chance of flipping town so I figured it was worth it to try and push a third option and see what shook out.
People haven’t been able to get over the fact that I was just fucking around on day 1 and geno has been on the money so far. If I had to choose one of us to stay alive, geno ups towns win % way moreYou being more worried about the way people perceive Geno than about surviving is 50% noble, 50% fucking weird.
So why does geno not get the benefit of the doubt?
Before he said that, what did you think he meant?
Scum is down what 5 members?? I’m an easy kill there With little blow back. There’s gambits and then there’s suicidal.Because with the way scum have been. I wouldn't put it past scum to do a hilarious "I'll give up my scum mate" to seem townie.
Apollo's power is pretty powerful though so Geno does get some town points for that but I won't use that as the full basis for full on town-reading.
Alright, just checkingITA proof or BP like he claimed already.
Geno refusing to post because someone dared question him is not pro-town. He might be town but being a big baby doesn’t help. Who cares if someone suspects you? Deal with it.People haven’t been able to get over the fact that I was just fucking around on day 1 and geno has been on the money so far. If I had to choose one of us to stay alive, geno ups towns win % way more
Scum is losing people very fast. I don't buy that Geno swerves from the foregone conclusion of Kawl being the one to die to surprise take out his teammate just for townie points.Because with the way scum have been. I wouldn't put it past scum to do a hilarious "I'll give up my scum mate" to seem townie.
Apollo's power is pretty powerful though so Geno does get some town points for that but I won't use that as the full basis for full on town-reading.
Scum is losing people very fast. I don't buy that Geno swerves from the foregone conclusion of Kawl being the one to die to surprise take out his teammate just for townie points.
HEY WHATS YOUR CLAIMScum is losing people very fast. I don't buy that Geno swerves from the foregone conclusion of Kawl being the one to die to surprise take out his teammate just for townie points.
HEY WHATS YOUR CLAIM
just vanilla here
Geno has full town reads from me. There's no chance in hell he's scum after that event.
It’s almost like I hadn’t even had a chance to look at anything that happened in the event, I just saw the flips in here. Still feel pretty confident you’re scum and that’s why Vere picked you out. I’m not seeing what your point is on the last post, yes all three flipped scum. Literally everyone who talked about the D1 lynch would mention the same three people?I'm uncomfortable with a Kawl lynch after this event, but he could still be scum. The ploy in the event could have easily been just to get ire off himself. He could have a weaker role than Apollo. Both could be scum.
VOTE: NATIKO
I'm not trusting much of Natiko is saying here.
All the people you've mentioned here have flipped scum.
You're still pointing to Geno as scum when he took out a very big important role for Mafia. Throwing Apollo under the bus just makes no sense at this stage.
What the hell happened
What happened???
Scum ded
Town ded via revenge
two people ded
Sorian is evil
Eh, wasnt the most well thought out thing since there was a lot happening. I was assuming he'd go for me or Geno as a revenge kill and thought claiming vanilla would get him to go for me if Apollo was town. I was thinking about it like a lynch, if me and Geno were the two trains we'd both claim and go from there. Was really convinced of Geno's towniness so I wanted to take the hit in case he was a pr. It def wasn't the best way to go about it though.Then what was with that post in the event
Eh, wasnt the most well thought out thing since there was a lot happening. I was assuming he'd go for me or Geno as a revenge kill and thought claiming vanilla would get him to go for me if Apollo was town. I was thinking about it like a lynch, if me and Geno were the two trains we'd both claim and go from there. Was really convinced of Geno's towniness so I wanted to take the hit in case he was a pr. It def wasn't the best way to go about it though.
Vote:Mazre
The logic here is flawed, but that’s probably a better sign than not. I don’t think scum speaks up like that if they know their scummate is dead.Eh, wasnt the most well thought out thing since there was a lot happening. I was assuming he'd go for me or Geno as a revenge kill and thought claiming vanilla would get him to go for me if Apollo was town. I was thinking about it like a lynch, if me and Geno were the two trains we'd both claim and go from there. Was really convinced of Geno's towniness so I wanted to take the hit in case he was a pr. It def wasn't the best way to go about it though.
All btw.Likelihood of Kawl being scum just dropped further with that event. Meh. Do not like to let people who fuck around and lie for fun on D1 alive, but it is what it is.
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Problem is, I have no idea who to lynch now.
Also Nomad, what the hell is that vote right now. Geno has been on basically every dead scum member so far. Well not all, but most.
Vote: Mazre
Probably Mazre.Likelihood of Kawl being scum just dropped further with that event. Meh. Do not like to let people who fuck around and lie for fun on D1 alive, but it is what it is.
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Problem is, I have no idea who to lynch now.
Also Nomad, what the hell is that vote right now. Geno has been on basically every dead scum member so far. Well not all, but most.
Hey bb
It’s almost like I hadn’t even had a chance to look at anything that happened in the event, I just saw the flips in here. Still feel pretty confident you’re scum and that’s why Vere picked you out. I’m not seeing what your point is on the last post, yes all three flipped scum. Literally everyone who talked about the D1 lynch would mention the same three people?
Uh explain how it is? I see you already unvoted but you gotta stop just throwing pointless accusations around.Countering your vote, breh
Vote: Geno
Explain how your vote is not a scum tell?
I think that we should go over the possible ways Apollo would've used his power. I do agree with what was mentioned before in that he likely gave someone a 100% hit rate for today's ITA. This means that the people we should look into are the ones who got a hit:
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.......To those who asked me to claim, I'm a very important role so I'd rather not to. Maybe even more than Zipped.
I think that we should go over the possible ways Apollo would've used his power. I do agree with what was mentioned before in that he likely gave someone a 100% hit rate for today's ITA. This means that the people we should look into are the ones who got a hit:
-EzekelRAGE hit scum. A powerful scum role as well. Unlikely that he was given the guaranteed shot.
-Mazre hit Zipped, who at this point is almost certainly town.
-Terraforce hit Trigger. However, we just now learned Terraforce is town. Also, he ded.
-Finally, Extreme Tactician hit Verelios. While this may have been done to earn town points, it also feels unnecessary considering we were likely going to lynch Verelios at the end of the day.
And that's all the successful ITAs for today. Mazre is definitely the most suspicious of the bunch. Apollo made a mistake in killing off Terraforce because now there are only two real choices here. Terraforce would almost certainly be suspect if he was still alive. So, with all of that said:
Vote: Mazre
Oh, that's a good point. Splinter died immediately after the first ITA started, meaning he never got a chance to shoot.Yea, I mentioned this earlier about us three. One thing about it though, we dont know who he gave it to. Maybe he gave it to splinter? Luckily the stronger case for Maz is shooting zipped.
Weren't you one of the people who didn't want to lynch Rynam? Anyway, all or almost all, doesn't make much difference.All btw.
GDI, if Kawl is scum then he has successfully played quite a few people.
The shade you threw loses all of its impact if you say you're fine with the other choice in the next post :PI'm okay with a Mazre lynch mainly cause of the zipped thing. But I don't think Kawl will be helpful to town and is likely not town :/
I don't really understand the last sentence? Can you expand on that?Hmm, I kind of buy this? A lot was happening at the time yes and you've been open about defending Geno.
I still think it's weird to say it there when you know if you survive you'll be asked about it but I guess I understand.
Yeah, I realized it wasn't the way to go about what I wanted to happen soon after posting. The thread was going really fast and I wasn't being too rational or coherent.The logic here is flawed, but that’s probably a better sign than not. I don’t think scum speaks up like that if they know their scummate is dead.
...what? I am most certainly not the only one that A) believed Vere was confused in the event and B) thought the Rynam lynch was lazy. I’ll stand by both of those stances even after alignment flips. The option I moved to in order to add more stakes to the voting was also scum. I’m sure plenty of people here can vouch that it’s a pretty common tactic if the lunches at day end feel stagnant for Mafiera to test out an alternative wagon to try and see what people do. It helps to catch out scum, only this time all wagons happened to be scum.Yet you're the only one who considered them throw away lynched and searched for a third option. And yet they flipped scum.
Sawneeks for one........
You basically just posted “hey, scum, kill me,” so that’s fun.
Why the fuck are we demanding day 2 claims anyway? Are y’all high? I missed who thought that was a good thing to do.
Oh shit, I completely missed the 100% hit rate part till I saw this post quoted. That throws huge shade on Mazre. Yep, gonna vote there.I think that we should go over the possible ways Apollo would've used his power. I do agree with what was mentioned before in that he likely gave someone a 100% hit rate for today's ITA. This means that the people we should look into are the ones who got a hit:
-EzekelRAGE hit scum. A powerful scum role as well. Unlikely that he was given the guaranteed shot.
-Mazre hit Zipped, who at this point is almost certainly town.
-Terraforce hit Trigger. However, we just now learned Terraforce is town. Also, he ded.
-Finally, Extreme Tactician hit Verelios. While this may have been done to earn town points, it also feels unnecessary considering we were likely going to lynch Verelios at the end of the day.
And that's all the successful ITAs for today. Mazre is definitely the most suspicious of the bunch. Apollo made a mistake in killing off Terraforce because now there are only two real choices here. Terraforce would almost certainly be suspect if he was still alive. So, with all of that said:
Vote: Mazre
Did you ever give an explanation as to why you prioritized shooting Zipped over Verelios?Just wanna say this is an exceptionally good post that is 100% wrong.
I don't really understand the last sentence? Can you expand on that?
Yeah, I realized it wasn't the way to go about what I wanted to happen soon after posting. The thread was going really fast and I wasn't being too rational or coherent.
Also fine with Mazre. I asked him about his development on Zipped here (#3553) and I think he kinda dodged the most important part. Was typing a response but the event happened, meh. The boost mechanic and his hit only ups how suspicious he is.
Vote: Mazre
But I don't think Lux is a bad lynch either, he's had a lot of bandwagon votes that don't sit well with me. I am also starting to think that the scum team might not be too organized or communicating well, which points to lower activity people. But Mazre also falls into that category so him first.
Did you ever give an explanation as to why you prioritized shooting Zipped over Verelios?
Vote: Mazre
Just joining the parade
You are next btw.Vote: Mazre
Just joining the parade
I get the feeling that Stuart is playing the role of "I wanna be on good terms with everyone".The shade you threw loses all of its impact if you say you're fine with the other choice in the next post :P
I felt like you talked about how scum were probably bulletproof but not how that overrode how you thought there was no way Zipped was scum.What in your mind was the important part that I supposedly dodged?
Ha, I just saw this. Some things never change.Maybe Scum: Muffin
Did he claim BP before he got hit? Sorry, sometimes I miss things like this.His BP claim was suspicious to me. Mentioned several times already.
I felt like you talked about how scum were probably bulletproof but not how that overrode how you thought there was no way Zipped was scum.
Did he claim BP before he got hit? Sorry, sometimes I miss things like this.
Furthermore, what exactly was suspicious about his claim? Did you think he didn't actually have BP or did you think the fact that he had it made him more likely to be scum?
The shade you threw loses all of its impact if you say you're fine with the other choice in the next post :P
I don't really understand the last sentence? Can you expand on that?
It kind of sucks how we get punished for choosing correctly in the event.
I get the feeling that Stuart is playing the role of "I wanna be on good terms with everyone".
I'll give you Kawl, but Rynam was a universal scum read.It's not intentional but I admit, I hate being a jerk, even in a game like this. I prefer being on good terms with people as well.
But considering the way I went at Ry (who I actually like outside of the game) and the way I'm going at Kawl (and went at Vere) I wouldn't agree that I want to be on good terms with everyone.
I'll give you Kawl, but Rynam was a universal scum read.
So any arguments against me other than not following the crowd on Zipped/Vere?
I don’t think Stuart would try to intimidate and threaten me if this was the case. Ther are issues with Stu; this isn’t one.I get the feeling that Stuart is playing the role of "I wanna be on good terms with everyone".
I don’t think Stuart would try to intimidate and threaten me if this was the case. Ther are issues with Stu; this isn’t one.
Yeah maybe I'm wrong here. I'm sure I missed some posts too.I was one of the first to go at them tbf (along with you) because of their opportunism. And Vere wasn't as scumread on D2 as D1 and look what happened there. I went for them hard from early on.
It's not just that, it's also that your ITA is overall the most suspicious hit of the bunch.So any arguments against me other than not following the crowd on Zipped/Vere?
You’ve referenced this a couple of times now can you point me in its direction?I don’t think Stuart would try to intimidate and threaten me if this was the case. Ther are issues with Stu; this isn’t one.
I'm pretty sure everyone here understands this is just a game. How we play here isn't our irl selves. I might act like a jerk a lot here but I don't have anything personal with any of the players.I said I'm sorry, I didn't mean for it to be taken that way :(. (seriously, I hate being a jerk and if I came across like that, I was obviously real jerkish and I'm sorry)
Damn this means you don’t like me outside the game?? OuchIt's not intentional but I admit, I hate being a jerk, even in a game like this. I prefer being on good terms with people as well.
But considering the way I went at Ry (who I actually like outside of the game) and the way I'm going at Kawl (and went at Vere) I wouldn't agree that I want to be on good terms with everyone.
Damn this means you don’t like me outside the game?? Ouch
Mazre is my vote
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You basically just posted “hey, scum, kill me,” so that’s fun.
Why the fuck are we demanding day 2 claims anyway? Are y’all high? I missed who thought that was a good thing to do.
Ha, I just saw this. Some things never change.
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Speak for yourself. I lose all sense of difference between the game and the real world. I’ve heard of at least one case of someone dying in real life when they die in the game.I'm pretty sure everyone here understands this is just a game. How we play here isn't our irl selves. I might act like a jerk a lot here but I don't have anything personal with any of the players.
Honestly the post in the event thread where Faircure said that 'Geno and I should both claim' I read it as a Mason claim. I thought Faircure and Geno were buddies given Faircure's trust of him and that was a hint at it. :x
That’s what I thought too neeks. Not sure why it was assumed that one of them two were gonna be chosen over say me. Seemed a weird assumptionDid you ever say why you let Kawl live btw
Honestly the post in the event thread where Faircure said that 'Geno and I should both claim' I read it as a Mason claim. I thought Faircure and Geno were buddies given Faircure's trust of him and that was a hint at it. :x
Love ya
LmaoSpeak for yourself. I lose all sense of difference between the game and the real world. I’ve heard of at least one case of someone dying in real life when they die in the game.